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Corrupt Government Title: Bush vs. Clinton in 2016 . . . • Say it ain’t so: Will America be subjected to four—or eight—years of Jeb or Hillary? By Victor Thorn — The very real possibility of a Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton face-off in the 2016 presidential election has elicited a collective groan across many parts of America. One political activist voicing his disapproval is Nelson Hultberg, director of Americans for a Free Republic and president of the Dallas-based National Independent Party. During a January 7 interview, Hultberg told this reporter: “Jeb Bush running against Hillary Clinton would be a total disaster because it epitomizes what people are against, specifically a Democrat-Republican monopoly. Bush and Mrs. Clinton are both big government statists. We don’t have two political parties any longer. As Pat Buchanan remarked, ‘They’re two wings of the same bird of prey.’ Democrats and Republicans are taking us down the road to tyranny.” When asked what it represented if someone entered a polling booth and pulled the lever for either Bush or Mrs. Clinton, Hultberg responded: “They’re defending the status quo of these two parties. Democrats that support Mrs. Clinton symbolize the pathetic nature of modern-day politics. Hillary is pitiful. She’s a socialist ideologue that’s leading a march toward doom for America. Democrats will destroy themselves if they nominate Hillary.” In regard to the potential GOP nominee, Hultberg commented: “Jeb Bush equals Hillary-light. Let’s not forget that George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton conspired together behind the scenes during the Iran-Contra scandal. These two families are interchangeable. They’re the face of America’s power structure.” This same reasoning applies to Congress, added Hultberg. “Leaders like John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid control almost all newly elected incoming legislators,” he said. “It doesn’t take long for these politicians to realize who butters their bread. They either get bought off or come under their hammer.” The recent opposition to House Speaker Boehner by conservative Republicans is a perfect example, especially the blowback directed against them for not toeing the line. “Boehner and Pelosi teach their subordinates who and what to vote for,” said Hultberg. “They’ve been placed in these positions of power so that everyone else follows along. If this structure remains, we’ll never break the Democrat-Republican monopoly.” If Bush or Clinton enters the White House following next year’s election, Hultberg envisions disastrous results. “I see a bleak future of business as usual,” he said. “The Demopublicans will continue their Keynesian economic plan where they keep creating more and more debt to sustain growth. Under this inflationary spiral, I foresee a huge economic crash. Because both establishment parties preach globalism and want Keynesian fiat money, they’ll further push us toward world government and a world central bank.” Still, Hultberg feels that hope remains if a viable third-party candidate can emerge. “Some 40 to 50% of Americans don’t believe in the malarkey happening in Washington, D.C.,” he said. “We must appeal to those whose eyes are still open. Considering this state of affairs, Victor Hugo once stated, ‘Nothing is more powerful in history than an idea whose time has come.’ In the past, voters weren’t ready for an independent candidate, but now they are.” (1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest CruzIn 16
#2. To: VxH (#1) (Edited)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party![]() #3. To: Deckard (#0) Bush vs. Clinton in 2016 . . . It's what the elites want. "Do it for the children . . . "
#4. To: hondo68 (#2) Meanwhile in reality land... "Hillary Clinton ‘furious’ with husband Bill’s ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein" http://www.washingtontimes.com/n...th-husband-bills-ties-to/ Any naked Owls in the Shubbery of AKSARBEN these days?
#5. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3) (Edited) "Do it for the children . . . " They'll do it with the children more likely. And why not, the McSheeple have held them completely unaccountable thus far. Laws are just for the little peeples - not the Royal Rhodesian minkeys who've been anointed atop the herd.
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#6. To: VxH (#4) The Clinton perv team. The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party![]() #7. To: Deckard (#0) " we’ll never break the Democrat-Republican monopoly.” It is all just political theater, produced & directed by the CFR! While too many suckers ( voters ) still think R or D makes a difference! Fools! The USA is screwed!
#8. To: Stoner, Rufus T Firefly, hondo68, (#7) It is all just political theater, produced & directed by the CFR! While too many suckers ( voters ) still think R or D makes a difference! Fools! “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#9. To: Deckard (#8) I like the picture, funny but true!
#10. To: Deckard, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#0) The very real possibility of a Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton face-off in the 2016 presidential election Cheer up. This may end up being the "bridge too far",and result in the revolution that is so long overdue. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #11. To: Stoner (#7) The USA is screwed! I've believed that to be true for several years now. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #12. To: sneakypete (#11) " The USA is screwed! Yeah, wish I had reason to be more optimistic, but there is no reason!
#13. To: Stoner (#12) Yeah, wish I had reason to be more optimistic, but there is no reason! If my 3 choices were the Dim candidate,the alleged Republican candidate,or Revolution,I would reluctantly vote for Revolution. I don't see a revolution happening,but IMHO we are already at the point where that is the only thing that would save America and the Bill of Rights. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #14. To: hondo68 (#6) The Clinton perv team. Every one of them should be wearing nothing but their SOX and locked in stocks for display on the capital lawn.
#15. To: hondo68 (#2) " the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States" What does this mean?
#16. To: Deckard (#0) Bush vs. Clinton in 2016 . . . That's sure to produce the lowest voter turnout in well over a century. What if they held an election and nobody came? "Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka." #17. To: VxH, packrat1145 (#15)
It means that Raphael E. Cruz may be one half US citizen, but he's not a Natural Born US Citizen. 1) At the time of his birth, one parent was a Cuban citizen. 2) Born in Calgary, Canada. The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party![]() #18. To: hondo68 (#17) (Edited) he's not a Natural Born US Citizen. The folks who articulated “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790) disagreed with you. "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens"
#19. To: hondo68 (#17) It means that Raphael E. Cruz may be one half US citizen, but he's not a Natural Born US Citizen. That's the least of the problems with this pompous ass. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#20. To: VxH (#18) “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” If you need naturalization, you're not a Natural Born US Citizen. Duh! The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party![]() #21. To: Deckard (#19) (Edited) That's the least of the problems with this pompous ass. Maybe so, but that won't stop Useful Idiot McBirthers from misdirecting attention to their turf. Observe what we didn't hear in 2008: McWeevil: I'm glad my opponent brought up the economy. Mr. Obama isn't your campaign's national finance chairwoman (and future secretary of commerce) Penny Pritzker -- and didn't her Chicago Family's bank fail from its innovations in ACORN / Subprime lending?Nope, didn't hear that. Cruz has more American blood in his little toe than Jebster and Hitlary combined.
#22. To: hondo68 (#20) (Edited) If you need naturalization, you're not a Natural Born US Citizen.
"shall be considered as natural born Citizens" Evidently the founders didn't agree with you. Duh.
Is your lame graphic intended to insinuate that Cruz is ideologically aligned with Castro?
#23. To: VxH (#21) Cruz has more American blood in his little toe than Jebster and Hitlary combined. Ever notice that in every election cycle there's always at least one candidate who - the mere mention of his or her name - seems to drive some people over the edge? In 08 it was Palin; in 12 it was Herman Cain or Michelle Bachman. This time it's shaping up to be Ted Cruz. Don't misunderstand - Cruz has as much chance of being the re-pubican nominee as I do. For starters, he's not Elite Approved or Big Media Tested. His last name isn't Bush or Clinton. But it's funny to watch people stress out over him.
#24. To: Rufus T Firefly (#23) (Edited) in 12 it was...
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