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Opinions/Editorials Title: Ron Paul -- Is He Evil?
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I'd bet he voted for McCain multiple times. You lose the bet, but win the trophy:
#19. To: Gatlin (#18) I'm surprised you didn't sic one of your sockpuppets on me, you're slipping! “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#20. To: Palmdale (#14) Ideas are cheap and abundant His cut and paste has done an absolutely terrible job of countering the vast suspicion that their Libertarianism is a uselessly abstract ideology. Libertarianism will never sell. It will remain a minority creed because most Americans are neither stupid nor immoral.
#21. To: Gatlin (#17) Don’t you think it is high time you stop trying to defend the indefensible? Ron Paul does need any defense from me or anyone else. Look, I'm sorry the guy still scares you with his "crazy" ideas about freedom and liberty. The fact remains - he has been a positive influence on millions of Americans who still value Constitutional principles. You wouldn't understand that, would you? “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#22. To: Gatlin, Palmdale (#20) Ideas are cheap and abundant Wow, you two clowns are really delusional. Cut and paste ideas? Just wow. Libertarianism will never sell. It's selling. You and the other statists aren't buying. You're too afraid of freedom, you need a big powerful government to keep you safe. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#23. To: CZ82 (#19) I need assistance from no one to handle a flyweight. While you are here and injected yourself in the discussion, perhaps you can tell everyone which of Ron Paul’s ideas have ever resulted in actions. Can you?
#24. To: Deckard (#21) Ron Paul does need any defense from me or anyone else. You are right about that, there is nothing that can help him. The fact remains - he has been a positive influence on millions of Americans who still value Constitutional principles. Oh but I do understand that he has an interesting selection of friends. I look no further that his good pal Lew to see another real piece of work. And Ron’s followers, the Paulbots aren’t any better as the dwell on the lunatic fringe.
#25. To: Gatlin, Palmdale, CZ82, tpaine, sneakypete (#17) The World's 100 Most Influential People: 2012 Paul does not censor himself. He comes across as sincere, earnest and independent of his party's fat cats. In the debates, only he called out the American Empire's meddling in the business of countless nations around the world. Paul, 76, draws a distinction between libertarian conservatives and those corporatist conservatives entrenching a corporate state in which Big Business merges with Big Government. That's why he is against bailouts. His defense of privacy and civil liberties and his opposition to the war on drugs endear him to people beyond his libertarian base. Ron Paul Retires From Congress; His Influence Still Abounds Even Dr. Paul stated in his farewell address to Congress that, on the surface, his career has seemingly had little influence:
Paul added, “The ultimate solution is not in the hands of the government. The solution falls on each and every individual, with guidance from family, friends and community.” It is this sentiment that has not only set him apart from his now former colleagues, but spawned an intellectual revolution throughout the country and even the globe. Perhaps the most unique characteristic of Paul’s career and his supporters is their trademark emphasis on the importance of ideas versus personality or partisanship. Rather than parroting talking points of how he would more efficiently manage the federal government, Paul dared to ask more fundamental questions such as what is the proper role of government in the first place and why do we allow the government to meddle in our personal lives at all? From Paul’s perspective, the sole purpose of government is to protect the individual’s right to life, liberty and property and nothing more. Ron Paul's Liberty Movement Spreads in Congress The influence of Dr. Paul could also be seen in the vote on House Speaker January 3. Although Dr. Paul didn't vote against John Boehner as speaker two years ago, he was so frequently a lone vote of dissent against his own party he obtained the nickname “Dr. No” in the House. On January 3, some 13 Republican congressmen declined to vote for Boehner, many of whom got their start with the Ron Paul movement or were endorsed by Paul in the most recent election. Those 13 Republicans who voted against Boehner as speaker included veteran Representative Walter Jones (“Freedom Index” 97 percent), who was probably more influenced by Ron Paul than any other member of Congress, as well as freshmen Ted Yoho of Florida, Thomas Massie of Kentucky, and Steve Stockman of Texas. Yoho, Massie, and Stockman received an endorsement from Paul and a contribution from Paul's PAC in the past election. In addition, the new dean of the libertarian movement in Congress — Michigan's Justin Amash — voted against Boehner. Amash wrote that he was “proud to vote for Congressman Raúl R. Labrador for Speaker of the House of Representatives. Raúl would defend liberty and work honestly with Democrats on debt reduction. We must act now for the sake of our next generation.” Amash scored 92 percent on The New American's “Freedom Index” in the last Congress as a freshman congressman. Amash may be the closest ideologically to the retiring Dr. Paul, and he has taken over chairmanship of Dr. Paul's House Republican Liberty Caucus (of which Labrador is a member). Amash led the fight against the bill Congress passed in the wake of the “fiscal cliff” for its increases in federal spending. “The federal government’s refusal to live within its means is immoral. I cannot in good conscience support burdening our children and grandchildren with another $50 billion of debt,” said Amash. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#26. To: Gatlin (#24) And Ron’s followers, the Paulbots aren’t any better as the dwell on the lunatic fringe. Why, because they believe in LESS government? Your hatred of Ron Paul and Libertarians in general indicates that you have a pathological fear of freedom and a deep-seated need for the State to protect you. It's sad really. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#27. To: Deckard (#22) Libertarianism will never sell. It is not because you Paulbots cannot come to an agreement as to what liberty really means since you as a whole represent a lot of different viewpoints. It is near impossible to bring a group together that tends to disagree about actual specifics. Your leaders bicker among themselves and leaves your movement devoid of any centralized leadership. Until you Libertarians get your act together, Libertarianism will never sell.
#28. To: Deckard (#26) Why, because they believe in LESS government? That's all you have....this one liner? Yea, it is. One need not be a Libertarian to want less government. Geeeeze....
#29. To: Gatlin (#27) Libertarianism will never sell. No - statists like you and McCain aren't buying. Freedom is toooo scary for you. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#30. To: Gatlin (#28) One need not be a Libertarian to want less government. Oh come on, don't try and pretend you are for smaller government. Your posting history indicates that to be a bald-faced lie. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#31. To: Deckard (#26) ...you have a pathological fear of freedom and a deep-seated need for the State to protect you. That's silly nonsense. I have no fear of the right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. Isn't that exactly what I am doing now? And some government functions are essential. Ours is too large and needs downsizing. That idea is not the sole property of Libertarians.
#32. To: Deckard (#30) Oh come on, don't try and pretend you are for smaller government. I never pretend about anything, and of course I am for smaller government.
#33. To: Deckard (#30) Your posting history indicates.... You take my posting history and make it into what you want to believe.
#34. To: Deckard (#29) Freedom is toooo scary for you. I am fearless....always have been.
#35. To: Deckard (#26) Your hatred of Ron Paul and Libertarians.... I have no hatred, only sympathy.
#36. To: Deckard (#25) Ron Paul Retires From Congress; His Influence Still Abounds.... His influence "still" abounds? That is based on the assumption that it ever did. Where was that?
#37. To: Deckard (#22) Cut and paste ideas? Name one new idea out of libertarianism in the last 50 years.
#38. To: Palmdale (#37) Name one new idea out of libertarianism in the last 50 years. How about repealing the Orwellian monstrosity, the PATRIOT ACT. You statists love the police state. “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#39. To: Gatlin (#36) His influence "still" abounds?
#40. To: Deckard (#38) How is repealing a law an idea?
#41. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#34) I am fearless....always have been. Ahem, just last month you scurried away from LP because you were afraid some new owner would have access to what, your registration info?
#42. To: tpaine (#41) I am fearless....always have been. Ahem, you may recall last month Goldi inform you that she had all my personal information, that was just before she told you to shut up. Therefore, it could correct to believe she had included some or all of that information in her LP notes. Consequently a new owner would have access to what, you ask. Access to detailed personal information and not just registration info as you so stupidly suggest. I did not want someone I do not trust to have a dossier containing detailed information about me. I could never trust you with anything, especially no personal information. I am still fearless and always will be....but I will never let my fearlessness make me be stupid. I believe I have answered you question. Thank you for asking one so important.
#43. To: Deckard, Palmdale (#38) Name one new idea out of libertarianism in the last 50 years. Sorry, sport, but that is no new libertarianism idea and libertarians have no claim to ownership of this. Rep. Rush Holt (he is not a libertarian) was among the very first of a long list of critics calling for repeal. There are many calling for the repeal. In 2001 concerned members of Congress urged expiration dates on some of the Patriot Act's most controversial powers. Like Obama off the teleprompter, you also make no sense without your “copy and paste” machine in action to think for you.
#44. To: Gatlin (#42) I remember when the loathsome cowards were posting the address and pictures of the house of someone with the surname Gatlin living in Palmdale, insisting he must be either you or me.
#45. To: Deckard (#25) (Edited) The World's 100 Most Influential People: 2012 That's from Time magazine. It is not the only thing Time got wrong: Time was wrong: Burmese nationalist monk Wirathu stands vindicated.The list goes on and on and on....
#46. To: Palmdale (#44) I remember when the loathsome cowards were posting the address and pictures of the house of someone with the surname Gatlin living in Palmdale, insisting he must be either you or me. I remember that....but I forgot who the idiot was that did it. Wait, please don't recall the screen name to me.
#47. To: tpaine (#41) (Edited) The LF user formerly know as tater. The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party![]() #48. To: Gatlin (#42) Ahem, just last month you scurried away from LP because you were afraid some new owner would have access to what, your registration info?
-- a new owner would have access to what, you ask. Access to detailed personal information and not just registration info ---- Why did you give Goldi your detailed personal info? -- I never asked her for it, I just asked her to verify that you were a distinct individual, -- and were not just another of harrowups amusing fake personas.
I am still fearless and always will be....but I will never let my fearlessness make me be stupid. Well, I'd say giving Goldi more personal info than she needed was the panicked reaction of a stupid persona. -- But of course, I'm a bit cynical.
#49. To: tpaine (#48) Nah, I never have a panic reaction....you of all people must know better than than that. I have a two questions for you:
#50. To: hondo68 (#47) scurried away from LP because you [Gatlin] were afraid I scurry away from not place and I am never afraid!
#51. To: Gatlin (#46) I remember that....but I forgot who the idiot was that did it. The cowards worked in a tpack. None of them gave up their own real names and addresses, of course. (And who would have believed them if they had pretended to?)
#52. To: Palmdale (#51) I remember that....but I forgot who the idiot was that did it. Like infestations of piss ants with each having a different characteristic that has to be examined before slapping them down with proper forum pest control.
I guess you could not help notice that "it" is following me around again.
#53. To: Gatlin (#23) I didn't comment on Paul just the idiots that Deckard mentioned, kinda makes you wonder how they con so many people into voting for them? I figured you for a McCain fan since you live there and claim to be a Conservative, or do you just vote for the candidate with the prettiest rhetoric? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.†#54. To: CZ82 (#53) I figured you for a McCain fan since you live there and claim to be a Conservative, or do you just vote for the candidate with the prettiest rhetoric? Well,sport....you figured wrong, in both instances. I did not vote for McCain in his run for reelection as Senator. I did something that made me feel good. I voted for his Democratic opponent. I didn't vote for his clone to replace Kyle either. I wish Kyle had continued his career in the Senate.
#55. To: no gnu taxes (#0) Ron paul ... joe biden --- what's the difference ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! #56. To: BorisY (#55) Ron paul ... joe biden --- what's the difference ! Mad cow !
#57. To: Palmdale (#56) Paul bots are air heads ... biden mubommbabotts are full of sh*t heads --- joined at the hips ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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