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Primative Weapons Title: Libertarians Are Taking Over The Republican Party Former Michigan Republican Rep. Thaddeus McCotter says his party’s future belongs to the libertarians. It’s a message McCotter has been spreading in interviews and to anyone who’ll listen. He’s even laid out his case in a smart book, “Liberty Risen: The Ultimate Triumph of Libertarian-Republicans, where he claims libertarians even have something to say to the Budweiser-drinking, boxer-wearing, pro-life, Boston sheet metal worker. Most Republicans who hype the libertarian moment are libertarians themselves. Not McCotter. He is a Russell Kirk-quoting social conservative. “I’m not a libertarian,” he jokes. “I just play one on TV.” But while fellow social conservatives like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum slam libertarianism, McCotter believes the GOP will find a way to integrate libertarian activists who care about government surveillance the way it once assimilated evangelical Christians who cared about abortion. “When I was still in Congress I noticed younger Republicans saying, ‘I am a conservative, but I’m libertarian on some issues,’” McCotter told The Daily Caller. “They hadn’t grown up with Reagan and seen how [conservatism] had worked. All they had seen was the decline of the Republican Party.” “Now if you read your Russell Kirk, you can’t be both a libertarian and a conservative at the same time,” he added. “But America being what it is, you can be whatever you want.” In the past, Republicans might have used “libertarian” as a codeword for moderate. Arlen Specter, for example, liked to describe himself as an “economic-fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.” But libertarian is no longer a Republican euphemism. “Moderate Republicans would like Common Core,” McCotter told TheDC. “Libertarian Republicans wouldn’t like it.” According to McCotter, the shift isn’t just political and generational. It’s mainly cultural. “The 21st century doesn’t operate top down,” he said. “You wouldn’t let someone else program your iPod. Why let a top-down bureaucracy choose your health care?” The consumer-driven, highly personalized economy will eventually have an impact on a bureaucracy mostly designed in the distant past. He quotes Andrew Breitbart as saying, “Politics is downstream from culture.” The Libertarian Party won’t go away, he said, but libertarians who actually want to govern will do so as Republicans, like presidential candidate and former 12-term Texas Rep. Ron Paul, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Michigan Rep. Justin Amash. Libertarian Republicans can come to an accommodation with social conservatives, McCotter said — note that all of the above libertarian GOPers are pro-life. Even when they disagree on the substance of a social issue, he argued they can agree federal judges shouldn’t be the final arbiters of morality. He also believes “the failure of the neoconservative movement and even some of the realist movement” and a “war-weary” country gives libertarians an opening on foreign policy by appealing to voters who want to “crush the terrorist threat there without creating a government threat here.” That doesn’t necessarily mean Rand Paul will be the next Republican presidential nominee, however. “2016 may be too soon,” McCotter told TheDC. “In many ways, Senator Paul has an advantage in that his father was the pioneer, in other ways it’s a disadvantage.” “Libertarian Republicans need a national aspirational message,” McCotter said. “That’s hard to do, because libertarians are so individualistic.” Purist libertarians will resist, but liberals and conservatives aren’t immune to infighting over ideological points themselves. If Rand Paul did win the nomination, McCotter doubts many Republicans who disagree with him would sit out the race. He noted the tight 2008 Democratic contest in which Barack Obama upset Hillary Clinton, concluding, “They kept their eyes on the prize, which is the presidency.” Poster Comment:
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 90. #7. To: hondo68, TEA Party Reveler, sneakypete, Dead Culture Watch (#0)
#9. To: Deckard, Y'ALL (#7) Libertarians are diligently plotting to take over the world, (in order) to leave you alone. Great line, factual concept.
#10. To: tpaine (#9) I love the way the alleged Republican/alleged conservative Party People rant and rave about "Libertarians" being anarchists,while claiming THEY follow the Founding Fathers. The Founding Fathers for the most part WERE Libertarians. Otherwise we would have never had a Bill of Rights or a Republic. They have no idea how hypocritical they sound ranting about "deys to mucha dat freedum stuff going on out dare wid dem dam Libertarians" while calling themselves conservatives. In THIS country to be a conservative means you ARE a Libertarian.
#15. To: sneakypete (#10) In THIS country to be a conservative means you ARE a Libertarian. Actually it doesn't. Libertarians are for immoral freedom. Conservatives are for moral freedom. Killing your kid or pretending two dudes make a family and are married is evil, stupid, intellectually lazy. Don't mean to pick on you Pete but you are saying some pretty dumb stuff. Hey I agree with you on some things. For example the Roku is a pretty neat device. So we don't disagree on everything.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#15) Libertarians are for immoral freedom Totalitarians like Hitler and Stalin would have happily agreed with you that the state has the right to decide which "freedoms" are moral or immoral. You can always count on dictators to give you all the freedom they think you need.
#25. To: sneakypete (#20) Totalitarians like Hitler and Stalin would have happily agreed with you that the state has the right to decide which "freedoms" are moral or immoral. The state has decided that murder and stealing are immoral and made laws against it. i guess you should be free from those restraints if it conflicts with your libertarian loserosophy.
#42. To: Excalibur (#25) The state has decided that murder and stealing are immoral and made laws against it. No,it didn't. The PEOPLE decided this and demanded the state make those things illegal. The state went along because you can't have a civilized and peaceful society if things like murder and theft were to go unpunished. The result of ignoring those actions would be anarchy.
#54. To: sneakypete (#42) you can't have a civilized and peaceful society if things like murder and theft were to go unpunished. Then you are the problem. You are for abortion. You call murdering your kid self defense. Thanks for playing. You have painted yourself into a corner. You aren't for liberty. You are an anarchist that thinks murder is ok in some instances.
#64. To: A K A Stone (#54) You are an anarchist that thinks murder is ok in some instances. And you are a robot that lacks the ability to tell the difference between self-defense and murder.
#85. To: sneakypete (#64) And you are a robot that lacks the ability to tell the difference between self-defense and murder. You aupport the snuffing out of innocent children. Regardless of how old the child is. Killing your kid isn't self defense. Self defense is when some old grouch atheist comes up to you to steal your roku, because his is broken. Then you put him down like an old dog.
#87. To: A K A Stone (#85) Killing your kid isn't self defense. 1: It's not a kid until it has been born. Until then it is only a potential kid. 2:Since it is only a growth inside her body and endangering her life,removing it IS self-defense,just like removing a cancerous tumor. Self defense is when some old grouch atheist comes up to you to steal your roku, because his is broken. Then you put him down like an old dog. You can't even get that right. Killing somebody for stealing isn't self-defense. It is defense of property,not life.
#90. To: sneakypete (#87) You can't even get that right. Killing somebody for stealing isn't self-defense. It is defense of property,not life. Tell that to the dead man who was put down like an old grouch even though he was a young black man. He just wanted the dudes shoes. He received a bullet instead.
Replies to Comment # 90. Tell that to the dead man who was put down like an old grouch even though he was a young black man. He just wanted the dudes shoes. He received a bullet instead. You probably think that makes sense,don't you? 1: That's not just stealing because you have to physically assault or threaten someone's life to steal their shoes. 2: What fantasy world is it that you live in that has young black thugs lusting after old man's shoes?
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