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Title: Libertarians Are Taking Over The Republican Party
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The Daily Caller
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/15/l ... ing-over-the-republican-party/
Published: Jan 16, 2015
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2015-01-17 00:08:54 by Hondo68
Keywords: Libertarian Republicans, come to an accommodation, national aspirational message
Views: 103130
Comments: 144
Former Michigan Republican Rep. Thaddeus McCotter says his party’s future belongs to the libertarians.
It’s a message McCotter has been spreading in interviews and to anyone who’ll listen. He’s even laid out his case in a smart book, “Liberty Risen: The Ultimate Triumph of Libertarian-Republicans, where he claims libertarians even have something to say to the Budweiser-drinking, boxer-wearing, pro-life, Boston sheet metal worker.
Most Republicans who hype the libertarian moment are libertarians themselves. Not McCotter. He is a Russell Kirk-quoting social conservative. “I’m not a libertarian,” he jokes. “I just play one on TV.” But while fellow social conservatives like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum slam libertarianism, McCotter believes the GOP will find a way to integrate libertarian activists who care about government surveillance the way it once assimilated evangelical Christians who cared about abortion.
“When I was still in Congress I noticed younger Republicans saying, ‘I am a conservative, but I’m libertarian on some issues,’” McCotter told The Daily Caller. “They hadn’t grown up with Reagan and seen how [conservatism] had worked. All they had seen was the decline of the Republican Party.”
“Now if you read your Russell Kirk, you can’t be both a libertarian and a conservative at the same time,” he added. “But America being what it is, you can be whatever you want.”
In the past, Republicans might have used “libertarian” as a codeword for moderate. Arlen Specter, for example, liked to describe himself as an “economic-fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.” But libertarian is no longer a Republican euphemism.
“Moderate Republicans would like Common Core,” McCotter told TheDC. “Libertarian Republicans wouldn’t like it.”
According to McCotter, the shift isn’t just political and generational. It’s mainly cultural. “The 21st century doesn’t operate top down,” he said. “You wouldn’t let someone else program your iPod. Why let a top-down bureaucracy choose your health care?” The consumer-driven, highly personalized economy will eventually have an impact on a bureaucracy mostly designed in the distant past. He quotes Andrew Breitbart as saying, “Politics is downstream from culture.”
The Libertarian Party won’t go away, he said, but libertarians who actually want to govern will do so as Republicans, like presidential candidate and former 12-term Texas Rep. Ron Paul, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Michigan Rep. Justin Amash.
Libertarian Republicans can come to an accommodation with social conservatives, McCotter said — note that all of the above libertarian GOPers are pro-life. Even when they disagree on the substance of a social issue, he argued they can agree federal judges shouldn’t be the final arbiters of morality. He also believes “the failure of the neoconservative movement and even some of the realist movement” and a “war-weary” country gives libertarians an opening on foreign policy by appealing to voters who want to “crush the terrorist threat there without creating a government threat here.”
That doesn’t necessarily mean Rand Paul will be the next Republican presidential nominee, however. “2016 may be too soon,” McCotter told TheDC. “In many ways, Senator Paul has an advantage in that his father was the pioneer, in other ways it’s a disadvantage.”
“Libertarian Republicans need a national aspirational message,” McCotter said. “That’s hard to do, because libertarians are so individualistic.” Purist libertarians will resist, but liberals and conservatives aren’t immune to infighting over ideological points themselves.
If Rand Paul did win the nomination, McCotter doubts many Republicans who disagree with him would sit out the race. He noted the tight 2008 Democratic contest in which Barack Obama upset Hillary Clinton, concluding, “They kept their eyes on the prize, which is the presidency.”
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Mittards will be assimilated
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#83. To: TooConservative (#50)
Wasn't that Washington whose wife inherited slaves and a small plantation? Washington found it difficult to manage and didn't like slavery at all, thought it bad for the country. As I recall, they were freed upon his death.
Evidently Jefferson and Washington had similar feelings on the issue, but unlike the wealthy Washington, Jefferson's debt prevented him from being able to free what he did not own.
"When Jefferson inherited about twenty slaves from his father in 1764, Virginians had been working their plantations primarily with black slave labor since the beginning of the century. In 1774, Jefferson inherited 135 more slaves from his father-in-law, John Wayles, who had been directly involved in the importation of enslaved Africans into Virginia. This practice was not prohibited until 1778, by an act drafted by Jefferson himself.[snip] Because Jefferson died deeply in debt, most of the other members of the Monticello African-American community were sold at auction and dispersed among different owners in Albemarle and surrounding counties. "
www.monticello.org/site/j...son/jefferson-and-slavery
"At the time of George Washington’s death, the Mount Vernon estate’s enslaved population consisted of 318 people. Washington himself had been a slave owner for fifty-six years, beginning at eleven years of age when he inherited ten slaves from his deceased father. Washington’s thoughts on slavery were contradictory and changed over time. This evolution culminated near the end of his life; Washington’s will mandated the freeing of his slaves upon his wife’s death, making him the only slaveholding Founder to put provisions for manumission in his will."
#84. To: VxH (#83)
Washington himself had been a slave owner for fifty-six years, beginning at eleven years of age when he inherited ten slaves from his deceased father.
Nice research. I was unaware that Washington inherited slaves from such an early age.
That must have been shortly after he chopped down that cherry tree that we've lectured The Children about ever since. : )
#85. To: sneakypete (#64)
And you are a robot that lacks the ability to tell the difference between self-defense and murder.
You aupport the snuffing out of innocent children. Regardless of how old the child is.
Killing your kid isn't self defense. Self defense is when some old grouch atheist comes up to you to steal your roku, because his is broken. Then you put him down like an old dog.
#86. To: A K A Stone (#85)
Killing your kid isn't self defense. Self defense is when some old grouch atheist comes up to you to steal your roku, because his is broken. Then you put him down like an old dog.
I seem to recall someone chiding me the other day about this sort of thing...
At least Fred talked me off the ledge.
#87. To: A K A Stone (#85)
Killing your kid isn't self defense.
1: It's not a kid until it has been born. Until then it is only a potential kid.
2:Since it is only a growth inside her body and endangering her life,removing it IS self-defense,just like removing a cancerous tumor.
Self defense is when some old grouch atheist comes up to you to steal your roku, because his is broken. Then you put him down like an old dog.
You can't even get that right. Killing somebody for stealing isn't self-defense. It is defense of property,not life.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#88. To: sneakypete (#87)
1: It's not a kid until it has been born. Until then it is only a potential kid.
Proving that you are a moron. It isn't a kid, but 1 minute later it is a kid. Science never was your strong point.
You support murdering innocent kids. That have nothing to defend themselves with. That is one of the reasons you will burn. Because you deserve it.
You can always repent if you so choose. It would be the wise thing to do. I hope you get right in the head Pete. I really do.
#89. To: sneakypete (#87)
2:Since it is only a growth inside her body and endangering her life,removing it IS self-defense,just like removing a cancerous tumor.
Yes a baby is just a tumor. Like you continually demonstrate. You are not only the enemy of law and morality but of science.
#90. To: sneakypete (#87)
You can't even get that right. Killing somebody for stealing isn't self-defense. It is defense of property,not life.
Tell that to the dead man who was put down like an old grouch even though he was a young black man. He just wanted the dudes shoes. He received a bullet instead.
#91. To: A K A Stone (#88)
Proving that you are a moron. It isn't a kid, but 1 minute later it is a kid. Science never was your strong point.
Oh,the irony!
You support murdering innocent kids. That have nothing to defend themselves with. That is one of the reasons you will burn. Because you deserve it.
Getting wood over thinking about it,ain't ya?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#92. To: A K A Stone (#89)
Yes a baby is just a tumor.
It's not a baby. It's a fetus.
Speaking of science,what branch of science is it that states "Life begins at erection."?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#93. To: A K A Stone (#90)
Tell that to the dead man who was put down like an old grouch even though he was a young black man. He just wanted the dudes shoes. He received a bullet instead.
You probably think that makes sense,don't you?
1: That's not just stealing because you have to physically assault or threaten someone's life to steal their shoes.
2: What fantasy world is it that you live in that has young black thugs lusting after old man's shoes?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#94. To: sneakypete (#91)
Getting wood over thinking about it,ain't ya?
No Pete. I actually like you and acknowledge that you have some good characteristics.
It is just a couple or 3 subjects that you remain willingly ignorant.
Issues that I consider important.
#95. To: sneakypete (#93)
Police in Miami Township, in Montgomery County, said Jawaad Jabbar, 16, was at the Dayton Mall Saturday with some other teens attempting to get a pair of new, limited-release Air Jordan’s that were going on sale.
Watch this story | Watch police news conference
When he failed to get in line in time to get a pair of shoes, police said, Jabbar decided to rob someone who had the shoes. He approached two men just outside the mall and showed a gun, police said.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/police-teen-killed-at-dayton-mall-was-trying-to- rob-man-of-shoes/30352428
#96. To: sneakypete (#93)
That's not just stealing because you have to physically assault or threaten someone's life to steal their shoes.
I agree. I didn't put in every detail about the roku above.
#97. To: sneakypete (#92)
It's not a baby. It's a fetus.
People like to pretend. You are one of them.
It's not a baby. It's a fetus.
It's not a human it's a nigger.
Same argument. You have no shame.
#98. To: sneakypete (#87)
your roku
So did you ever get your wireless to connect to the TV or Roku from the metal shop building 100' away? I recall the discussion at LP. You got some good advice there from several people.
You owe us a followup.
#99. To: TooConservative, sneakypete (#98)
I have a roku. Also got the chromecast. The chromecast seems much better at streaming content from your desktop/harddrive. I use the chromecast much more. There is an app for chromecast called videostream. It is a great app.
I've had the roku for a lot longer though.
#100. To: Palmdale (#72) (Edited)
They'll post the following Reagan quote, typically leaving off the second paragraph.
Reagan :
"But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#101. To: Deckard (#100)
"But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."
Where's the rest of the paragraph?
#102. To: sneakypete (#92)
It's not a baby. It's a fetus.
fe·tus
noun
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
#103. To: Palmdale (#101) (Edited)
Where's the rest of the paragraph?
What he said in the paragraph was all well and good, but he reiterates that conservatism and libertarianism are following the same path.
You do understand that, right?
Your agenda here seems to paint libertarians as "anarchists".
Nobody but you and the other neocons statists are buying that load of malarkey.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#104. To: Deckard (#103)
What he said in the paragraph was all well and good, but he reiterates that conservatism and libertarianism are following the same path
So where's the rest of the paragraph?
#105. To: Palmdale (#104)
So where's the rest of the paragraph?
You really are too stupid and lazy to google things for yourself.
#106. To: TooConservative (#105)
You really are too stupid and lazy to google things for yourself.
That's your fallback line every time you are busted. Therefore you use it a lot.
#107. To: Palmdale (#106)
You really are too stupid and lazy to google things for yourself.That's your fallback line every time you are busted. Therefore you use it a lot.
I typically use Yahoo or Bing rather than Google, but none reach into the nether world of this poster's musings.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
#108. To: Palmdale (#77)
"The LP. Read their platforms over the years."
The older the better.
#109. To: no gnu taxes, Palmdale (#107) (Edited)
I typically use Yahoo or Bing rather than Google, but none reach into the nether world of this poster's musings.
You two really need some supervision while surfing the interwebs.
The seventh entry from that DDG search:
Reason: Inside Ronald Reagan, 1975
Halfway down the webpage, you'll find the entire paragraph you were too dumb to find on your own.
#110. To: TooConservative (#109)
Nothing in this explains why you claim that Ron Paul beleives that the domestic immigration policies of France are what has caused their Muslim terrorist issues. He believes that everyone should allow these murdering savages to just do what they want.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
#111. To: no gnu taxes, TooConservative (#110)
Nothing in this explains why you claim that Ron Paul beleives that the domestic immigration policies of France are what has caused their Muslim terrorist issues.
I cannot find it there either. I can't find anywhere Ron Paul said the he believed France's immigration polices cause the Muslim terrorist issues.
I where Ron Paul said that France's "bad foreign policy invites retaliation" in the form of the shooting at Charlie Hebdo.
You can "stretch" (as some do) and say that immigration policy is foreign policy.
#112. To: misterwhite (#108)
"The LP. Read their platforms over the years."The older the better.
They're like the Scientologists of politics. Don't talk about the giant clams until you've got the sucker hooked.
#113. To: TooConservative (#109)
Halfway down the webpage,
Still terrified to quote it. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
#114. To: Born Free (#111)
You can "stretch" (as some do) and say that immigration policy is foreign policy.
Or they can use Rand's statement to Hannity, then stretch and say that Rand and Ron share genetic makeups.
#115. To: Palmy, gaylin, boing flea, mo nu taxes (#114)
Ron Paul is living in your head, rent free, 24/7/365.
Pwned!
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#116. To: hondo68 (#115)
IT'S HAPPENING
Uh huh
#117. To: misterwhite, sneakypete, Y'ALL (#108)
What is important is which side of the divide you fall on in most cases,the side of "You're not the boss of me!" like some sort of petulant 8 year old,or the side that thinks the government exists to promote their viewpoints and punish anyone that doesn't agree with them. --- sneakypeteWho didn't and doesn't? The LP. Read their platforms over the years. --- palmsnark
The older the better --- misterwhite
Yep, the old Libertarian Party is gradually learning from their mistakes. But no matter, soon that party will be absorbed into the GOP, and you authoritarians will be froze out.
#118. To: hondo68, Palmdale (#115)
#119. To: Born Free (#111)
You can "stretch" (as some do) and say that immigration policy is foreign policy.
For France and Algeria, it's the same. Also, domestic policy.
#120. To: A K A Stone (#94)
Issues that I consider important.
Nobody,least of all me,is trying to claim you don't have a right to consider those issues important.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#121. To: A K A Stone (#95)
When he failed to get in line in time to get a pair of shoes, police said, Jabbar decided to rob someone who had the shoes. He approached two men just outside the mall and showed a gun, police said.http://www.wlwt.com/news/police-teen-killed-at-dayton-mall-was-trying-to- rob-man-of-shoes/30352428
Thanks!
I love a story with a happy ending.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#122. To: A K A Stone (#97)
It's not a human it's a nigger.Same argument.
No,it's not. You just refuse to see it because it doesn't fit with your particular form of PC.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#123. To: TooConservative (#98)
So did you ever get your wireless to connect to the TV or Roku from the metal shop building 100' away?
I would get lousy reception one day,and none at all the next.
I decided to just quit trying to fight gravity,and bought 200 feet of Cat6 ethernet cable,new ends,and the crimping tool. Lowes had the flexible waterproof conduit on sale at 35 cents a foot,so I bought 100 feet of it and going to run it underground from the house to the shop.
Since I now have the Cat6 ethernet cable,the crimpers,and the ends,I am going to cut wires to the correct length and get away from wireless altogether.
Yesterday I was downloading at 3 megs,but some days I get about half of that. I figure going back to wired instead of wireless will give me more consistent service and be more secure,too.
BTW,I pick up 39 channels with my RCA HD antenna that I paid 45 bucks for. TVFOOL.COM has my closest station at 20 miles away,but the rest are all between 40 and 45 miles away. I get perfect reception with all of them with no booster.
The antenna is mounted about 15 feet off the ground. I cut a piece of aircraft heat-treated aluminum (because it's what I had handy) about 10 inches by 15 inches,and pop-riveted the antenna mount to the aluminum,and then riveted the aluminum to the shop wall. I even ran a triple 10 gauge copper wire from the surge protector attached to the antenna to a 4 foot long brass rod driven 4 feet into the ground,and then ran a CL2 In-Wall Rated (CM) Quad Shielded RG6 Coaxial cable from the antenna to the tv in the shop,cut it to length,and crimped a new end on it.
I wasn't all that trilled about having to buy a 125 foot steel fish tape to I could pull the ethernet cable from the house to the shop,but I found a Klein for 42 bucks,and figured it was a hell of a buy on a Klein and I could probably use it to pull auto wiring and other stuff. Besides,it would have cost me more than that to have hired somebody to just pull the cable for me. Now I have spent less money and still have the tool to use on other stuff.
Since I have been wearing a knee brace the last few days,and may be going in for surgery to my shoulder soon,there is no way in hell I am digging the trench. I just hired a friend tonight to come over and dig it for me next week.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
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