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Title: Are there any types of improvements you would like to see here at Liberty's Flame
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Published: Jan 13, 2015
Author: Devil Anse
Post Date: 2015-01-13 12:51:31 by Devil Anse
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If anybody has any suggestions for improvements that could be made here at Liberty's Flame then we would like to hear them. I've noticed one or two on other threads but I ask you to put them here if you don't mind to make them easier to keep track of. Thank you.
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#1. To: All (#0)
However, the forum software does allow category filters. So you can unsubscribe to a particular category and never see it in your sidebar and such. Neil re-enabled category filtering recently at LP but we never got a chance to see if it would help much. It is still disabled here at LF but, if enabled, you get to choose what categories you see from the Content Filters page. (The Categories list appears between the Bozo list and the Ignored Threads list.) But if you have certain flamebait topics that almost always go bad, maybe they should be segregated. I know a lot of women posters just do not want to read that much swearing and hostile language. They don't complain. They just stop posting and the forum suffers. LP would have been a lot more peaceful if we had had a category for Policing and another for Conspiracy (including Truthery). LF should also have a clear policy on retitling articles, especially making flamebait titles. A clarification is one thing "2016 Race Frontrunner [Jeb!]" as the square brackets make clear what part was added. But something like "Police chief arrested for shooting wife" doesn't need to be retitled as "Porker pig honcho blah-blah-blah". It's too flamey. It will be easier for the Devil if he and Stone come to some agreement on retitling policy which is a surprisingly recurrent problem. TooConservative posted on 2015-01-13 11:46:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit Thank you TC.
Thank you TC.... The Devil is the most powerful spirit of evil in Christianity. An evil spirit that causes a person to do bad things or make trouble. Since I don’t think you are evil and don’t intend to do bad things or make trouble, I will henceforth always refer to you as, Sue. Sue, your narcissistic life becomes an open book when you quote yourself in your first post. It is your nature to try and show how smart you are. Therefore, why bother with trying to maintain a secret identity when everyone can easily deduct who you really are anyway? If everyone doesn’t already know who you are, the certainly do now.
It is not him. Time will show you that if you have doubts. Thanks for signing up.
Seems to me that the software here makes the first line of every comment look like it's italicized. As is you're quoting your own comment, or one that was never made by the person you're addressing. Nope, didn't do it on this post, although the first line above looks a little smaller than the rest.. No? -- Anybody else get this effect?
Looks like your first line is smaller then your second.
I've noticed that if you put a paragraph tag at the beginning, it doesn't do that.
If you're going to use category filtering it might be a good idea to prune the list down by combining some of them. IMO, the category list could use some work. Less political shuck 'n jive spin, and more functionality.
Nekkid dancing girls?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It is too! I am the mighty and powerful Mod! I know I've got a Viking kitty around here somewhere...
There are actually two categories that are both named "The Democrats War On Women". They are categories 47 and 48. Those two need to be merged. Only Neil can do that quickly and easily.
You mean like this?
If everyone doesn’t already know who you are, the certainly do now. He had posted his suggestion on another thread so I moved it over here to help keep all of them together. If you have a constructive suggestion then this is the thread.
Yes they could stand to be cleaned up a bit to make posters viewing choices easier. And adding one similar to Biker Bar with it defaulting to HIDDEN when you logon. This way food fights and flamers can be banished and nobody will notice unless they go there on purpose.
AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH! I take it that means no?
Possibly the thing that rugged me the most over at LP was the group abuse of the bozo feature. For years there, I had 2 or 3 posters who had put me on bozo.. --- Then I started irritating misterwhite and palmdale, who put me on bozo and used it to trade 'behind the bozo' remarks. --- Soon, the harrowup/gatlin crowd picked up on the technique, resulting in some of the chaos over at LP. At one point I wondered, and posted, if a public listing of how many each member had on bozo, --- would help control this abuse of bozo. Everybody shot me down, and I'd like to see if anybody here has any better ideas, before some group starts the same old crap over here? No one has me on bozo yet, and I'd like to see it stay that way. -- Feel free to let me know, public or private, if you're about to bozo me.
I've been put on bozo before. Right here. :)
I noticed you haven't been here in awhile and I would like to hear any suggestions you have on the "Liberty's Flame Improvements" thread.
Hopefully we won't have that problem here and if it starts I will get to the bottom of it. It sounds like you aren't a fan of the bozo feature but as you probably well know some people just don't play well with others. And bozo just might end up being the lesser of 2 evils. Anyway welcome aboard I look forward to reading some articles you post.
I've never bozoed anyone, but I can see that some need to do so, just to control their own reaction to offending posts, if nothing else. So yeah, I get your point. Thanks...
Nope. Not the first one. Haven't been back long enough to have noticed anything.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
As a test I'm going to put you on my bozo list five times. I'll free you up in the morning. Just want to see if you see five bozos, okay? This is a test...
Test over...I posted tpaine in my bozo filter five times and hit save. I went back and saw that only one was there. Neil must have cleaned up that glitch. You are no longer on my bozo list. End of test.
You are no longer on my bozo list. Thank gawd!!! The shame, the shame of having 5 bozos on my back would have led to fits of shrugging, I fear.
Personally, I'd like to see a clean up of the category list. There is just too many to choose from. It clutters the forum. Having said that, I'd like to see a current events category. I'm not wild about having to add keywords.
Article categories are like a chart of accounts in business. Far better to lay them in a comprehensive way in one shot than to piecemeal your design. Look at major websites or newspapers like USAtoday or others. They have a pretty standard set of categories they apply to everything. Since we are publishing the same stories, it would be best to have some general chart of categories that we can apply to the stories here.
A local/national/world set of categories is quite useful. Where "world" means anything not national. You see this on many big news sites. "Local" and "national" mean your local news or your desired national news. And "World" is everything foreign.
That would entail going through 36,995 articles and re tagging them. That sounds like a lot of fun. At least that is the way it seems to me.
It is too! I am the mighty and powerful Mod! Some things never change. Writing style is one of them. Everyone uses certain techniques that makes a writer’s style easy to recognize. Once a writing style is developed, it stays with you like a fingerprint thus making both easily recognizable features. Choice of words, sentence structure, syntax and prolific posting routine are all dead giveaways. The study of linguistic style, stylometry, has been used to out the authors behind some of history’s most disputed documents. Stylometry examines word choice; the frequency, sequence, and length of words; and other telling tendencies. There is software that helps identify anonymous writers. It was analysis software that wrecked J.K. Rowling’s anonymity and the literary world found out that Robert Galbraith the author of The Cuckoo’s Calling was J.K. Rowling the author of Harry Potter. The typical methods of evading detection by using different IP addresses or posting under an anonymous name no longer apply. There is nowhere left to hide on the Internet now. Anonymity is a thing of the past. The release of the open source tool, JStylo, which is used to identify all the secret forum contributors is being deployed to strip away all masks. Anyone who know you, TooConservative, can easily recognize your writing style. If they couldn’t, then they can recognize the frequency magnitude in the number of posts one sees from you as another dead giveaway. On different note, your much needed service to LF will be of great benefit. As you have previously acknowledged on LP, the activity on forums is feeling the effects of competing forums, Facebook, blogs and so on….all decreasing forum activity. The distractions of iphone games also contribute to the loss. Forum members need to be motivated and be shown good reason to post on LF. They need to have a desire strong enough that they will choose LF over every other distraction to consume their finite time, including cross-posting in other forums. People really desire to participate in active conversations. There must be ways found to get those conversations started and keep them going. You have two, three or maybe a couple more people on LF that contribute nothing, all the do is take pot shots at others. Their activity needs to be curtailed. That does not mean banning them, it means redirecting their interests into informative and productive posts. There can be no doubt from anyone who knows you, TooConservative, that you can greatly improve LF. I suggest Stone needs to stop the amateurish and melodramatic hibachi-style theater antics. Quit trying to disguise someone behind the mysterious character of Devil Anse. It is a self-delusion that creates nothing. So take William Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield back to where you dug him up from in the Sarah Ann Hatfield Cemetery in Sarah Ann, West Virginia, and lay him back to rest. Then get on with the primary business at hand….improving LF to attract new members.
It isn't tooconservative. I'm not lying to you. The original post was a quote he must have seen from tooconservative and posted it because he thought it was constructive. You are free to disbelieve if you wish. But i'm telling you the truth. I probably wont discuss this anymore or much more. Thanks again for signing up and I think you will make good contributions here if you decide to stick around.
You only need to round up the strays, not re-brand the whole herd. Maybe a couple of thousand or so need to be changed. Is leaving the old ones as is, and just starting a new category list going forward an option? I suppose that would make searching for articles difficult.
I still think the Devil Anse name was a stupid idea. Okay. You convinced me when you said that you are telling the truth. The similarity was just overpowering. I am done with this. I still think the Devil Anse name was a stupid idea. Of course, I will stick around. Thanks for the opportunity to do so.
I didn't pick the name. I also don't want to choose the name. I'm just going to trust that the person will do a fair job whatever the screen name. That is the most important thing.
And most of the fire and smoke comes on a handful of topics. Like conspiracy (including Truthing) and policing. I wouldn't have chosen that name. Too easy to start in with stuff like "the Devil made me do it", etc. Or Devil Arse, or The Devil (which I already used playfully). I probably shouldn't confirm it to protect the new mod's identity but Stone told you the truth. I am not the Devil. (See what I mean? Who can resist all those devil puns?)
I would never have chosen that name either. Ah hopes dat ol Devil don’t come mosh me down.
Which is why I thought it was quite clever. Any Hatfield wannabes (forum brawlers) would know it's hit the fan when Devil Anse shows up. Like this is the first time that's happened. LOL. If the Devil wants to reconsider choosing that handle, now is the time, before a posting history for the account develops. Devil Anse is a clever choice. But angry posters will make lots of nicknames out of it. Maybe a funny name like Darth Moderator would be a little less flamey. Tons of good choices really.
Yeah, I'd vote for that. Keep em limited to likes of Sophia Loren, Raquel Welch, Ann Margret, women of that class. No helen thomas, hitlery, etc. LOL ! BTW Pete, good to see you over here.
"She walks, she talks, she crawls on her belly like a reptile"
"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."
Yeah,me,too. Why not create one,Spot?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Why? Why not just make the change,and let the "bones" rest where they lay? Or maybe just create links to the old categories,if that is possible?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
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#2. To: Devil Anse (#1)
TooConservative posted....
#3. To: Spartacus (#2)
when you quote yourself in your first post.
#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)
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#5. To: pinguinite (#4)
#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)
Looks like your first line is smaller then your second.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#7. To: Devil Anse (#0)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: Devil Anse (#0)
#9. To: A K A Stone (#3)
It is not him. Time will show you that if you have doubts.
#10. To: hondo68 (#7)
IMO, the category list could use some work.
#11. To: sneakypete (#8)
#12. To: Spartacus (#2)
Therefore, why bother with trying to maintain a secret identity when everyone can easily deduct who you really are anyway?
#13. To: hondo68, TooConservative (#7)
If you're going to use category filtering it might be a good idea to prune the list down by combining some of them.
#14. To: Devil Anse (#11)
#15. To: sneakypete (#14)
You mean like this?
#16. To: Devil Anse, Y'ALL (#0)
#17. To: tpaine (#16)
#18. To: sneakypete (#8)
#19. To: tpaine (#16)
For years there, I had 2 or 3 posters who had put me on bozo.. --- Then I started irritating misterwhite and palmdale, who put me on bozo and used it to trade 'behind the bozo' remarks. --- Soon, the harrowup/gatlin crowd picked up on the technique, resulting in some of the chaos over at LP.
#20. To: Devil Anse (#19)
It sounds like you aren't a fan of the bozo feature but as you probably well know some people just don't play well with others. And bozo just might end up being the lesser of 2 evils.
Anyway welcome aboard I look forward to reading some articles you post.
#21. To: Devil Anse (#18)
I noticed you haven't been here in awhile and I would like to hear any suggestions you have on the "Liberty's Flame Improvements" thread.
#22. To: tpaine (#16)
No one has me on bozo yet, and I'd like to see it stay that way. -- Feel free to let me know, public or private, if you're about to bozo me.
#23. To: tpaine (#16)
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
#25. To: Devil Anse (#0)
#26. To: Devil Anse (#13)
Yes they could stand to be cleaned up a bit to make posters viewing choices easier.
#27. To: out damned spot (#25)
#28. To: out damned spot (#25)
Personally, I'd like to see a clean up of the category list.
#29. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#9)
(Edited)
It is not him. Time will show you that if you have doubts.
#30. To: Spartacus (#29)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)
(Edited)
going through 36,995 articles and re tagging them
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)
The similarity was just overpowering. I am done with this.
#33. To: Spartacus (#32)
I still think the Devil Anse name was a stupid idea.
#34. To: Spartacus (#29)
Forum members need to be motivated and be shown good reason to post on LF. They need to have a desire strong enough that they will choose LF over every other distraction to consume their finite time, including cross-posting in other forums. People really desire to participate in active conversations. There must be ways found to get those conversations started and keep them going. You have two, three or maybe a couple more people on LF that contribute nothing, all the do is take pot shots at others. Their activity needs to be curtailed. That does not mean banning them, it means redirecting their interests into informative and productive posts.
There can be no doubt from anyone who knows you, TooConservative, that you can greatly improve LF. I suggest Stone needs to stop the amateurish and melodramatic hibachi-style theater antics. Quit trying to disguise someone behind the mysterious character of Devil Anse. It is a self-delusion that creates nothing.
#35. To: TooConservative (#34)
The Devil said: Put it another way what is everybody's reaction when the MODERATOR shows up? "OH S@*T here we go again".
I put it yet another way to say what are the reactions of the McCoy relatives when the DEVIL ANSE shows up? "OH S@*T here we go again". In 2003 more than sixty McCoy and Hatfield descendants issued a proclamation of peace "We ask by God's grace and love that we be forever remembered as those that bound together the hearts of two families to form a family of freedom in America."
Put it even another way, is intentionally using the name of Devil Anse Hatfield to “play the heavy” contributing to forever remember “those that are bound together in the hearts of two families?” You said: I wouldn't have chosen that name. Too easy to start in with stuff like "the Devil made me do it", etc. Or Devil Arse, or The Devil (which I already used playfully).
I probably shouldn't confirm it to protect the new mod's identity but Stone told you the truth.
I believe you, you are one of the very few posters I can. I apologize for falsely accusing you to be the Devil. The similarity was so great that the footprints led straight to your doorsteps. The devil ain't got no power over me. The devil come, and me shake hands with the devil. Devil have his part to play. Devil's a good friend, too... because when you don't know him, that's the time he can mosh you down. ~ Bob Marley
#36. To: Spartacus, Devil Anse (#35)
I put it yet another way to say what are the reactions of the McCoy relatives when the DEVIL ANSE shows up? "OH S@*T here we go again".
I apologize for falsely accusing you to be the Devil.
#37. To: sneakypete (#8)
" Nekkid dancing girls? "
#38. To: Stoner, sneakypete (#37)
Nekkid dancing girls? "
It was the same ole line ...except for one part
Said you don't need no money, you gotta pay with your heart
O Sharon, what do you do to these men?
You know the same rowdy crowd that was here last night is back again!
#39. To: out damned spot, Devil Anse (#25)
I'd like to see a current events category.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#28)
That would entail going through 36,995 articles and re tagging them.
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