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Title: Are there any types of improvements you would like to see here at Liberty's Flame
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Published: Jan 13, 2015
Author: Devil Anse
Post Date: 2015-01-13 12:51:31 by Devil Anse
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If anybody has any suggestions for improvements that could be made here at Liberty's Flame then we would like to hear them.

I've noticed one or two on other threads but I ask you to put them here if you don't mind to make them easier to keep track of. Thank you.

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#7. To: Devil Anse (#0)

If you're going to use category filtering it might be a good idea to prune the list down by combining some of them.

IMO, the category list could use some work. Less political shuck 'n jive spin, and more functionality.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-13   15:10:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#7)

IMO, the category list could use some work.

There are actually two categories that are both named "The Democrats War On Women". They are categories 47 and 48.

Those two need to be merged. Only Neil can do that quickly and easily.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-13   17:35:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: TooConservative (#10)

Those two need to be merged. Only Neil can do that quickly and easily.

They've been merged.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-01-15   0:49:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Pinguinite (#54)

   2Con: Those two [categories] need to be merged. Only Neil can do that quickly and easily.
Neil: They've been merged.

There's nothing as handy as a wizard whipping up a little SQL.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-15   12:37:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: TooConservative (#58)

Thanks!

BTW, I know I've responded minimally to the issues you've brought up with the software. It's just that I've got other things on my plate having nothing to do with LP/Pinguinite/etc and they have to get my priority attention right now.

I'm pleased to have a product out that's well regarded and received, and I know there are improvements needed, but working on them just doesn't put food on the table, so it's low priority by necessity.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-01-15   13:59:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#59)

BTW, I know I've responded minimally to the issues you've brought up with the software. It's just that I've got other things on my plate having nothing to do with LP/Pinguinite/etc and they have to get my priority attention right now.

I know. And you are trying to help sysadmin wrap up the LP stuff. He doesn't know the DB issues like you do. Neither do I.

Take this fairly puny category merge operation. I have to check the documentation and am still nervous. But you probably just whipped up something like:

UPDATE Categories SET CategoryNum=47 WHERE CategoryNum=48;

Then you might finish with a OPTIMIZE TABLE Category; for good measure.

I know just enough mysql (and MyISAM) for even that to make me kinda nervous. I think it's right. But you know from experience instantly what is kosher. That's the difference between a dilettante and a pro.

Of course, you might not be using any command line mysql and could be using something like Navicat instead but even with a sweet GUI DB interface, you have to know a lot of underlying technical details and what to avoid. I've never even set up Navicat for a remote secure database connection but I'd bet that that is old hat for you.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-15   14:55:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: TooConservative (#65)

UPDATE Categories SET CategoryNum=47 WHERE CategoryNum=48;

Then you might finish with a OPTIMIZE TABLE Category; for good measure.

The syntax is fine, and you got the right idea, but this isn't the right solution.

The problem was that articles were listed in both cat # 47 and Cat #48. To merge the 2 cats, all articles in cat 48 needed to be changed to cat #47:

UPDATE Articles SET CatNum=47 WHERE CatNum=48;

Then delete the extra cat in Categories:

DELETE from Categories where CatNum=48

Or maybe I renumbered to cat #48. I forget, but either way is the solution.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-01-16   3:00:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Pinguinite (#71) (Edited)

UPDATE Categories Articles

Doh, yeah. I was just spitballing it from memory. And I knew of the DELETE as well.

Or maybe just write the code to make use of the DefaultCat field that you put in Categories already. Isn't that what it was to be used for, to give articles a broad default category like World News or Sports or whatever so that if you deleted the current category they were in, they would get put back in their "parent" Category? Anyway, the name seemed suggestive and it would solve lots of problems with stray Categories that don't seem so relevant a few years down the road. So a Ron Paul 2012 category could be merged from the admin panel into its parent category, like Politics.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-16   5:25:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: TooConservative (#73)

Isn't that what it was to be used for, to give articles a broad default category like World News or Sports or whatever so that if you deleted the current category they were in, they would get put back in their "parent" Category?

As I type, I don't remember the purpose of a default category. But there is no parent system in play. All cats stand alone, equal to one another. Articles are put in categories according to key words, or failing that, the user must select when posting.

Managing categories once they are created is one weak spot in the admin panel. The problem is, if a cat is deleted, something must be done with all arts posted in it. I guess a drop down menu to force the admin to choose an alternate cat to put those articles into. Little dangerous as without more programming it's an irreversible act. And cat maintenance is generally a setup and forget type thing anyway so I didn't worry about it too much.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-01-16   12:34:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Pinguinite (#75) (Edited)

Managing categories once they are created is one weak spot in the admin panel. The problem is, if a cat is deleted, something must be done with all arts posted in it. I guess a drop down menu to force the admin to choose an alternate cat to put those articles into. Little dangerous as without more programming it's an irreversible act. And cat maintenance is generally a setup and forget type thing anyway so I didn't worry about it too much.

It is the one thing it really needs so you can merge categories easily. And the name is so suggestive. I was considering proposing it to you when I noticed that unused Categories.DefaultCat field in the DB.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-16   13:07:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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