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Title: Dead Culture Watch, Tea Party Reveler Welcome
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Published: Jan 11, 2015
Author: .stone
Post Date: 2015-01-11 23:42:03 by A K A Stone
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Views: 4927
Comments: 15

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Tea Party Reveler used to be Idol Hanz.

He's okay in my book.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-11   23:49:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

Do our forums ever get any new users any more?

People either die off or drift off to one of the other 3 P forums, sometimes as retreads.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-12   5:45:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

Very seldom do I see new users. We're a dying breed.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-12   10:30:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

When you don't update your look and feel for a decade, it can't appeal much to people under 40.

Much more could be done with the forum software though. You could give it a clean modern look and feel. The younger people just don't go for this Nineties look. They want CSS 3 with some Javascript to make it all smooth.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-12   12:14:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

When you don't update your look and feel for a decade, it can't appeal much to people under 40.

Are you volunteering?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-12   12:17:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

At least the flames could move, like an animated gif.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-12 12:22:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#5) (Edited)

Are you volunteering?

I might.

I see your site templates are somewhat limited at present. You have to have the needed CSS classes and such. I'm not sure how yours ended up running those particular templates (which I can discern from looking at page source here). For instance, for CSS features to work, your pages all need the NavBar definition. This is the list of menu items that appears across the top of every page here at LF. Your menu is inside the second paragraph on the page (BODY>P>FONT SIZE=2). It should be contained in a < span class=NavBar > instead. And that NavBar definition matches up with what is in your CSS stylesheet for the site. Click this link to see LF's style sheet.

http://libertysflame.com/template/styles.css

Clear at the bottom, you'll see the NavBar defined:

.NavBar {
	font-size:		12px;
	font-weight:		bold;
	color:			#008;
}
You can control every attribute of the NavBar with this definition. You can make it semitransparent, define its size and location, give it rounded corners, animate it, etc. This is how modern websites control their look and feel.

For some reason, your template headers have dropped that needed NavBar bit. I think Neil just put in a quick simple template for you to use. Modifying the templates and CSS is not a job he wants at all.

But the P system is quite powerful and can offer things like multiple templates like you see at other forums. What I've been trying to do is to create a multi-template mod that would allow all the current stuff to keep working as is but to also provide at least one new template with all the latest bells and whistles. So people with old computers/browsers can continue to use the standard version but people who want a more modern look and feel could choose the newer template(s). On other sites, like 4um, you can choose from more than one template theme to view the site with. 4um has Simple, Brushed (Hi-res), and Brushed (90%) for its three available template choices. TPF obviously has changed their templates too, going a bit further than 4um did. When more than one template is available, a forum user can select which one he wants from a dropdown box on the user's Setup page (found just below the tag line settings).

Neil underrates his own design. It is actually quite powerful and, with a few changes, quite capable as forums go. It's strength is in how well it separates form from function overall. Neil could see CSS coming on strong a decade ago and he made the proper provisions for it. I think it is miles ahead of forums like SimpleMachines which don't offer proper threading for a news site. At any rate, yes, you could give LF a nice facelift. Nothing in the software to stop you.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-12 14:29:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#5)

When you don't update your look and feel for a decade, it can't appeal much to people under 40.

Are you volunteering?

Owwwww......that will leave a mark.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-12 22:38:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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