Title: Tipping Point: 50% of Americans reject the D&R terrorist party Source:
Ben Swann URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rfMbw-3e0 Published:Nov 20, 2014 Author:Ben Swann Post Date:2014-11-20 12:18:37 by Hondo68 Keywords:50 percent of Americans, REJECT, Republicans and Democrats Views:16750 Comments:53
Poster Comment:
We're up to half of all Americans being, pro-Liberty & pro-American!
God bless America, and a pox on the Republican and Democrat tyrants.
How many people right here on Liberty's Flame are disgusted by both parties and want an option?
How many of you are willing, right here, right now, to commit to helping set up a NEW party that is explicitly not the Democrats OR the Republicans.
I am. Who else?
I propose a name, too: The "Christian Commonwealth" party. The party's moral code is overtly Christian, with all that that means (things like no abortion, no gay marriage, an aversion to violence). Just having "Christian" in the name itself acts as a nice filter to keep quite a few subversives out because of the horror of formally, and publicly, labeling themselves as "Christians".
"Commonwealth" points to the economic principles of the party. This is not a free trade capitalism party. It's not a socialist party. It's a party that believes generally that the purpose of organized economics is to provide for everybody within the realm. The best practical way to do that is through personal economic liberty, but personal economic liberty can swiftly turn into self-centered greed which is neither Christian nor aimed at improving the over all common wealth. Christian Republicans believe in a regulated free market economy with a strong social safety net and a comprehensive fair taxation system to pay for it.
Christian Republicans believe in a regulated free market economy with a strong social safety net and a comprehensive fair taxation system to pay for it.
How "strong" a "safety net" do you propose? What criteria? What do you consider "fair tax"? Do you endorse Amnesty, and if you do, whose obligation is it to finance it?
How "strong" a "safety net" do you propose? What criteria? What do you consider "fair tax"? Do you endorse Amnesty, and if you do, whose obligation is it to finance it?
These are complicated things that would require a lot of ink to flesh out. And anyway, I suggesting we form a party, not that I should be the head of it. So I'll give you my view of your short questions in comparably short answers.
How strong? Very.
What criteria? Universal.
What is a "fair tax"? A tax which taxes each individual's total wealth at the same percentage as it taxes everybody else, and that is set at the level necessary to fund all levels of government with no deficit, and with a sufficient surplus to eventually pay off all government debt.
Regarding illegal aliens, the Border must be closed and guarded to stop the flow. Violent illegals need to be deported. Families of US citizens need to be regularized with green cards, but without a path to citizenship (no VOTE, ever). Employers who hire illegals need to be fined heavily, to remove all economic incentive for hiring them. Border patrols and welfare is financed by the regular government. Fines should be punitive and assist in defraying the costs.
Employers who hire illegals need to be fined heavily, to remove all economic incentive for hiring them.
This is the solution. The problem is an enforcement mechanism. The employer must have an an available and reliable way to verify the status of prospective employees. Employees can readily provide bogus documents/information and get government acceptance and benefits.
This is the solution. The problem is an enforcement mechanism. The employer must have an an available and reliable way to verify the status of prospective employees. Employees can readily provide bogus documents/information and get government acceptance and benefits.
Well, it's never going to happen. The Democrats want the voters. The Republican plutocrats want the labor, and will never accept EMPLOYERS getting financially gutted for making excessive, illegal profits. Rather, the Republicans will focus on tormenting the poor immigrants, and the Democrats will let them, to an extent, in order to highlight why the Democrats are better.
Meanwhile, thanks to birth control, abortion and sex-as-recreation, the white population will dwindle and the Latinos will grow in number until they are all things.
Well, it's never going to happen. The Democrats want the voters. The Republican plutocrats want the labor, and will never accept EMPLOYERS getting financially gutted for making excessive, illegal profits. Rather, the Republicans will focus on tormenting the poor immigrants, and the Democrats will let them, to an extent, in order to highlight why the Democrats are better.
Enforcing the law is not torture.
A possibility would be to require aliens, as a condition of a work permit, to have a national ID card with picture and fingerprint. This could facilitate work status verification. Accompany that with prison time for impersonating a U.S. citizen.
Democrats doing something to highlight why the Democrats are better is like Obama giving another speech to highlight how Obamacare is saving each family $2,500 per year and imploring them to tithe 10% or $250 to the Democratic National Party. President Obama and Senate leader Harry Reed and House minority leader Nancy Pelosi have been so discredited that the popularity of the Dem party has fallen below the Republicans. That is quite an achievement. Democratic senate candidates were defeated with a months long recitation of Obama, Obamacare. Those who voted for it could not make any other topic gain traction. There is very little support for Obama's executive action now and it will be just one more anchor for the Dem party candidates to drag around in their next election... if they defend it for the next two years... and they will have to defend it or it will be killed by the majority.
And can also be changed/repealed by future presidents.
That's true. The next shot to do that will begin in January, 2017.
By then, there will be 5 million amnestied illegals, and all of their amnestied employers too. The Republican Establishment wants some sort of amnesty precisely for the second reason.
So, will the next Republican candidate campaign on withdrawing the regularization of 5 million people? No way.
What Obama does here will stick. It will never be reversed. The only time to stop this is NOW, and the ONLY WAY TO STOP IT, in Realityville, is to either get a Supreme Court injunction against it, or to shut down the government and keep it shut down, all the way to default. Obama won't back down, and that means that either he will win and gov't will reopen, or government will stay closed and default will occur.
In Realityville, the Republicans won't allow a shutdown to go all the way to default, so Obama will win.
That's the bottom line: given the Republican Party as it really is, unless the Supreme Court strikes down Obama's amnesty, the amnesty will stand.
At this point, we're all just speculating. But as we watch time unfold, the other speculations will fall away, and what I've said is what will come to pass.
Either the Supreme Court kills it, or Obama wins and it's never reversed. And given who is on the Supreme Court, that means Obama has already won. We can scream and yell and roll around to get it out of our system, but the 5 million amnesty will be. And more will come.
