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Title: Erdogan says Muslims, not Columbus, discovered Americas
Source: Yahoo News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/erdogan-says- ... overed-americas-162759161.html
Published: Nov 15, 2014
Author: Not given
Post Date: 2014-11-15 18:05:43 by nativist nationalist
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Views: 4088
Comments: 12

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Saturday that the Americas were discovered by Muslims in the 12th century, nearly three centuries before Christopher Columbus set foot there.

"Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," the conservative president said in a televised speech during an Istanbul summit of Muslim leaders from Latin America.

"Muslim sailors arrived in America from 1178. Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast," Erdogan said.

Erdogan said that Ankara was even prepared to build a mosque at the site mentioned by the Genoese explorer.

"I would like to talk about it to my Cuban brothers. A mosque would go perfectly on the hill today," the Turkish leader said.

History books say that Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492 as he was seeking a new maritime route to India.

A tiny minority of Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbian ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found.

In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape.


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Favorite comment, by Hafiza : This made me laugh! It is truthfully *correct* that in his journals Columbus describes a "mosque" at the crest of the hills of the bay they harbored in. Of course Columbus would describe any round building overlooking the bay as a "mosque". Columbus and his group were absolutely 100% *convinced* that they had reached INDIA. Hello, that's *why* all the Native Peoples in the Americas are called INDIANS. *Columbus* called them "Indians". (And don't forget in 1492, India was under Muslim rule, so mosques were a major feature in the landscapes.)

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Siberians discovered and settled America, joined later by some Polynesians who settled the West Coast of South America. As far as crossing the Atlantic goes, the Phoenicians may have. The Basques too. The Norse did in the 900s. The Irish have their story of St. Brendan.

Columbus' discovery was important, because it was done in the hire of a major government and led to the sustained and successful effort by that government to conquer and colonize the Americas.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-18   10:03:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited)

As far as crossing the Atlantic goes, the Phoenicians may have. The Basques too.

Who else "may have"? Don't forget the Transylvanians, Kenyans, and Upper Voltans.

Here's the bottom line: A dopey claim of Erdogan's was made to reinforce the ludicrous notion of a Muslim Caliphate in America. Not to speculate and re-consider the actual "discoverers of America." THAT has already been established history: COLUMBUS under the flag of Spain.

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#5. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited)

Norse did in the 900s.

Ok, so maybe they inadvertently landed in Greenland or Labrador. If so, they had NO idea that it was a "New World," but only islands off the Old World mainland.

The requisite if any "discovery" of the New World necessitates traversing the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans, a cognizance of doing so.

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