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The Left's War On Christians Title: "Militant Atheist" Endorses Stalinist Censorship for "religious fanatics" at LP; Exposed as a Hypocrite #525. To: tpaine, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, listener (#502)
(Tpaine):"We've all seen what happened at FR when religious fanaticism took too much control. Goldie doesn't want it to happen here. Comprende?" LOL you are a piece of work. What about the libertarian, CT and homosexual lobby fanatics who post here? Mr. Libertarian you can't silence one philosophical voice or view, let all others opine and expect to be called libertarian. Mr. Constitution I and every person of faith or religion has a First Amendment Right to freely exercise our religion AND as with all Americans the freedom of speech. Now if Goldi wants to limit those rights on her forum fine, but call it "Limited Libertypost" to accurately portray the site. For someone who opines daily on the rights of individuals yet wants a particular philosophical thought suppressed is complete hypocrisy. Please examine yourself.
Poster Comment: Tpaine -- yet another closeted out-of-the-woodwork Stalinist libertarian/Militant Atheist and anti-Christian -- was exposed and called out for his utter and complete blatant hypocrisy. Courtesy, redleghunter.. Redleghunter is apparently one of those "religious fanatics" tpaine referred to. Tpaine -- a HUGE so-called "constitutionalist" and crusader for libertarianism -- was emboldened and still intoxicated and inspired by Goldi-Lox's "fanatic jesus"/you make me VOMIT!" comment. Will Mr. Constitution "comprende" Hunting Season when its declared on hypocritical Libertarians? Chyeah, Paine -- We ALL saw what happened when one Closet Christian-Hater got called out on his fake "libertarian" and select memory of the US Constitution. [Thread Locked] Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 39. Thankfully, we had this site to come to when LP started to head towards the Soviet-style "freedom from religion" censorship.
#19. To: Orthodoxa (#15) Thankfully, we had this site to come to when LP started to head towards the Soviet-style "freedom from religion" censorship. Soviet? Seriously? : )
#23. To: TooConservative (#19) Soviet? Seriously?
"Freedom from religion" is a Soviet concept, not an American one. We have freedom OF religion here. For a site to advertise itself as not censoring people for their beliefs, but then to censor people due to their religious beliefs or in some cases even political beliefs (she also regularly purged Libertarian posts during election seasons -- note: I'm not a Libertarian, I just recognize that when the censorship of them started that someday it would happen to me too, and indeed it did.) Off topic vulgarity and insults were tolerated and even encouraged, but people simply posting their religious views on a topic of the day were told to keep it hidden from view. The Soviets did the same thing, they would proclaim that the Soviet Union had "freedom of and FROM religion", in practice that meant that if anyone saw you openly practicing or proclaiming Jesus Christ, that you would be punished for it.
The Soviets started out proclaiming that they were just "protecting" the average citizen from the "offensive" counter-revolutionary speech of Christians as well, but once they had consolidated their power then scenes like this one from the video occurred: That Russian Orthodox Bishop was placed on trial and executed because he had committed the "crime" of selling all of his possessions and giving the money to the poor -- the Commies declared that he had committed "treason" because "poverty does not exist in the Soviet Union". Ordinary people who went to Church would be tracked by the NKVD and later the KGB and punished for openly displaying their belief in Jesus Christ, because much like the God-Haters at LP, they were offended if they had to see someone openly being a Christian or talking about it. Christians in the Soviet Union were told that they had "freedom of religion", they just had to keep it completely hidden or be punished because if a God- hater saw it they would be offended by it. The Soviets saw restrictions on the public practice of Christianity as completely reasonable, much like the God-hater contingent at LP felt about posting Christian viewpoints on the forums there.
#31. To: Orthodoxa (#23) Your whole post is a crock of crap,although I don't have the slightest doubt you believe it because it is what you have been told since you were a child. Nobody was punished for going to church. In FACT,the priesthood was a KGB career field. After all,who better to keep a eye on the people than the man that hears their confessions? Stalin understood this well because he went to school to become a priest. The fact that it is rare to find a Russian that doesn't claim to be of the Russian Orthodox faith today is proof that religion wasn't suppressed on the level you claim. The communists treated religion like they did everything else. They were for it as long as they controlled it,and opposed to it if they thought some foreigners were controlling it. Their whole focus was on controlling power over everyone and everything. I first went to Russia as a tourist the year the Soviet Union collapsed,and I grew up believing the same crap you do. I was very surprised to see all the old churches being restored and at never personally meeting a Russian that didn't claim to believe in God. I'm sure they exist,I just didn't meet any.
#39. To: sneakypete (#31) Nobody was punished for going to church. In FACT,the priesthood was a KGB career field. After all,who better to keep a eye on the people than the man that hears their confessions?
The documentation for people being punished for going to Church is enormous. One Russian Orthodox priest was literally CRUCIFIED on the doors to his Church by the Atheist Soviets. Literally millions of Christians were killed because of their public confession of Jesus Christ.
And yes, the majority of Russians were and are Christian. They were being persecuted by an Atheist minority. That's what happens when you let people with an Atheist world-view seize power, they have no moral code. And you confess that you saw Churches being RESTORED. Who was it that had torn them down in the first place? And of course today most Russians are indeed openly Christian. They KNOW that only God could have overthrown the most evil empire in the history of mankind.
Replies to Comment # 39. The documentation for people being punished for going to Church is enormous. And we all know documents don't lie,right? One Russian Orthodox priest was literally CRUCIFIED on the doors to his Church by the Atheist Soviets. I have never tried to deny that some priests weren't murdered by the Soviets,and their churches weren't shut down. Stalin had this done to some of the priests that wouldn't play the role of informer on their congregation. Others were sent off to the labor camps and worked/starved to death. The ones that did play along kept their churches and were kept fat and happy. Or maybe you think that Stalin didn't know about the Patriarch in Moscow? And you confess that you saw Churches being RESTORED. Who was it that had torn them down in the first place? "CONFESS"? What religious crime am I being suspected of being guilty? SOME churches doesn't equal ALL churches,which was your original claim. They KNOW that only God could have overthrown the most evil empire in the history of mankind. Uh,huh. Odd how they/you never seem to question how a all-powerful and all-seeing God let the evil empire come into existence to start with,isn't it? Maybe you think Stalin had him fooled because he went to Divinity School?
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