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Title: "Militant Atheist" Endorses Stalinist Censorship for "religious fanatics" at LP; Exposed as a Hypocrite
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Liberty Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=348566&Disp=525#C525
Published: Oct 13, 2014
Author: Redleghunter
Post Date: 2014-10-13 14:15:07 by Liberator
Keywords: MilitantAtheist, HypocritalLibertarian, FauxConstitutionalist
Views: 87126
Comments: 168
#525. To: tpaine, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, listener (#502)
(Tpaine):"We've all seen what happened at FR when religious fanaticism took too much control. Goldie doesn't want it to happen here. Comprende?"
LOL you are a piece of work. What about the libertarian, CT and homosexual lobby fanatics who post here? Mr. Libertarian you can't silence one philosophical voice or view, let all others opine and expect to be called libertarian.
Mr. Constitution I and every person of faith or religion has a First Amendment Right to freely exercise our religion AND as with all Americans the freedom of speech. Now if Goldi wants to limit those rights on her forum fine, but call it "Limited Libertypost" to accurately portray the site.
For someone who opines daily on the rights of individuals yet wants a particular philosophical thought suppressed is complete hypocrisy.
Please examine yourself.
Poster Comment: Tpaine -- yet another closeted out-of-the-woodwork Stalinist libertarian/Militant Atheist and anti-Christian -- was exposed and called out for his utter and complete blatant hypocrisy. Courtesy, redleghunter..
Redleghunter is apparently one of those "religious fanatics" tpaine referred to. Tpaine -- a HUGE so-called "constitutionalist" and crusader for libertarianism -- was emboldened and still intoxicated and inspired by Goldi-Lox's "fanatic jesus"/you make me VOMIT!" comment.
Will Mr. Constitution "comprende" Hunting Season when its declared on hypocritical Libertarians? Chyeah, Paine -- We ALL saw what happened when one Closet Christian-Hater got called out on his fake "libertarian" and select memory of the US Constitution.
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Stone would you kindly create an atheist category so sneakypete doesn't clutter up the site with his militant atheism on every thread?
Everybody that isn't a member of a religious cult is a atheist,right,Bubba?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#95. To: Liberator (#82)
Most historically saavy people know fully well the perscution of Christians and Orthodox in the Soviet Union.
Most people with a open mind about history know full well that Christians and people of all religions other than communism were persecuted,but we also know the persecution was greatly exaggerated by the Christian leadership in the west as a tool to increase their power and fund-raising.
I grew up being told and believing that the communists had banned Christianity in the USSR,and ALL the churches were destroyed and all the true believers were sent off to labor camps or executed.
10 percent truth,and 90 percent propaganda/lies.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#96. To: Liberator (#85)
Moreover, can you tell the class just which Christians have coerced and forced you to convert??
Nobody forces me to do anything.
That's not saying none have tried.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#97. To: TooConservative, Orthodoxa, tpaine, redleghunter, outdamned spot, Don, Devil Anse, A K A Stone (#52) (Edited)
Some petty people did storm out acting like Goldi had tried to nail them to a cross and posted a lot of hurtful drivel about her, mostly here on LF.
"Petty people"?
Unlike YOU (a supposed "Christian") some of us defended the faith and were repulsed that we were maligned as "Jesus fanatics." So, who is principled? You or those you call, "petty people"?
And I think you all are ashamed now (or should be) for how unkind you were to a sick woman who occasionally had a little outburst on some minor issue on a forum she spent a lot of money to run so people could post freely.
YOU should be shamed for pathetically pulling out this thread, trying to shame Christians for defending their faith, and standing on principle. It is absolutely shameful to also pull out the "sick woman" card, when NO one knew if or whther Goldi was "sick."
Talk about petty? Look into a mirror. You've just embarrassed yourself. You're LF's shit-stirring Al Sharpton as far as I'm concerned.
#98. To: Orthodoxa (#86) (Edited)
I doubt that Pete would enjoy being relegated to an atheist ghetto,
Atheism is nothing but a dogmatic religion by another name. They do more damn preaching than most ministers/priests/rabbis,etc,etc,etc.
They are the mirror image of the fundie Bible Thumper that insists that everyone else MUST agree with their views and live according to them.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#99. To: sneakypete (#96)
Nobody forces me to do anything.
Thank you.
Now will you withdraw your prior dopey claims that Christian = Muslims?
#100. To: Liberator (#88)
Don't get involved in these issues if you can't back up your dopey charges with lies.
I don't lie and you know it. Accusing me of lying is just proof of how emotional and desperate you are on this issue.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#101. To: sneakypete (#95)
Most people with a open mind about history know full well that Christians and people of all religions other than communism were persecuted,but we also know the persecution was greatly exaggerated by the Christian leadership in the west as a tool to increase their power and fund-raising.
There was NO reason to exaggerate ANY thing regarding Soviet-Stalinist Russian. It was what it was.
#102. To: Liberator (#90) (Edited)
In real life you do it by trying to get laws changed so you can use the force of government to enforce your views.Are those laws about converting you to Christianity?
No,they are about forcing me at gunpoint to live according to your Christian version of Sharia Law.
Any coercion or threats involved?
Yes or No?
Yes. Starting with fines and evolving to time in prison.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#103. To: sneakypete (#100)
I don't lie and you know it.
Ok. Call it "GRAND DELUSIONS." Happy now?
Man, you just can NOT ever let this go. I feel bad for you because someone, some way long ago you've been mess with. And it's scarred you apparently for life. Based on these few experiences, ALL Chrisrians are "Taliban." Or Muzzie (whatever is worst.) It's ridiculous.
#104. To: sneakypete (#102)
Yes. Starting with fines and evolving to time in prison.
Then whomever did so committed a criminal act (however, they did NOT act upon ANY Biblical/Christian principles -- know THAT.) Did you report it to the proper authorities at the time?
#105. To: Liberator (#99)
Now will you withdraw your prior dopey claims that Christian = Muslims?
I didn't say that Christians are the same as Muslims. The faiths are different,and so are the cultures.
What I wrote is that you both follow the same strategy of using the force of law to force others to live by your views of morality.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#106. To: Liberator (#101)
There was NO reason to exaggerate ANY thing regarding Soviet-Stalinist Russian.
Then why did you and why do you continue to do so?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#107. To: TooConservative, Orthodoxa, tpaine, redleghunter, Devil Anse, A K A Stone (#52)
Don't expect anyone to seriously debate your nonsensical idea of LP as a Soviet gulag. It's ridiculous. What's next, doubling down to compare Goldi to the commandant of Auschwitz?
Practicing lines for your own Hitler spoof?
LOL
#108. To: sneakypete (#102) (Edited)
Christian version of Sharia Law
Pluralism vs PC Dieversity !
You've made your choice !
pcpete !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
#109. To: TooConservative (#52)
My opinion is some of this LP dreck should be cleaned up and this forum should make a new start.
Gee, what a surpise. As at LP, you've also annointed yourself Fuehrer-Mod of LF? But...I thought we already had a mod? AND owner?
#110. To: TooConservative (#58)
Goldi was not a Soviet commissar and these complainers are not exactly martyrs on the march for the Church Militant and Triumphant.These are just chat sites.
Yeah, we get it.
YOU are the Grand Poobah and Poitus Pilate of Penguinite Forums, Goldi was not Stalinist, and "Jesus Fanatics" are "petty people."
Geez, you're doing a LOT of whining and crying here. It's almost as though you harbor some VERY ill, hard feelings. Do you need your boo-boo kissed? If it makes you feel any better create a thread on ME.
Yes, afterall LP and LF are JUST "chatrooms." So stop your belly-aching.
#111. To: Don (#59)
I see that the usual clique of Athiests have found their way here. Christ is still Lord and while non - believers can't stand too see His name, facts don't change. He is still in charge and will remain so for all eternity.
Yup. Amen on all that.
#112. To: TooConservative, CZ82 (#57)
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and, doggone it, people like me.
ALMOST good enough, USED to be smart enough, and..well...about being liked. Meh.
#113. To: All (#0)
The internet will be a better place when Luberator signs off for good.
#114. To: Liberator, sneakypete (#104)
Blue laws in the United States
Back in the 1950's there was a Blue Law prohibiting retail sales on Sunday, in Ohio. It made weekend shopping tough.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#115. To: sneakypete (#74)
I even went so far as to create a "Religious Issues" ping list here and on LP so they would have a place to go to discuss religious issues with each other.
LF has an entire Religion category. Much more prominent than a pinglist.
I just wish you'd stop being so militant, pete! : )
#116. To: Biff Tannen (#113)
Biffy, don't make me pull out the "Hot-Dog" thread.
#117. To: hondo68 (#114)
Back in the 1950's there was a Blue Law prohibiting retail sales on Sunday, in Ohio. It made weekend shopping tough.
Extended well into the 1960s.
Well did it do? Forced workers and familiies to rest and perhaps spend Sunday together. AND fulfill the "rest on the seventh day" as suggested by the Bible.
I seemed to recall some stores being open until the afternoon on Sunday.
#118. To: Liberator (#72)
Me: "Certain strains of libertarians and atheists still believe that 'freedom from religion'' is a constitutional 'right.'
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, --- refers to freedom from STATE religion, and freedom OF religion.
Yes, the MOSTLY Christian Founders are THE ones who specified that no STATE religion be enforced or coerced upon the citizenry as a matter of Constitutionality.
Thank you for conceding that point.
And that's "FREEDOM OF RELIGION," Einstein, in the context of freely worshipping as one pleases.
The free exercise clause applies, and is quoted just above. Read much?
Geez -- have you militant Atheists sufficient Kleenexes on this thread??
Geez, is that all you religious fundamentalists can do is make silly slurs?
I'm agnostic and barely smart enough to realize I don't know it all.
#119. To: Liberator (#97)
YOU should be shamed for pathetically pulling out this thread, trying to shame Christians for defending their faith, and standing on principle. It is absolutely shameful to also pull out the "sick woman" card, when NO one knew if or whther Goldi was "sick."
But you shouldn't be ashamed for a petty backstabbing cross-forum attack thread? Because you had nothing better to talk about yourself here at LF?
Then there were the endless Goldi-vomit-vomit-vomit-we're-in-Auschwitz threads.
All because you weren't allowed to hijack every thread at LP to shove religion at Goldi or Marguerite or meguro or whoever?
You had a Religion category at LP too. Know what, it didn't get much use. So that was why those posters had to come out of their own Religion category so they could proselytize their way across the entire forum. Same kind of behavior you see from Truthers who turn everything into another conspiracy, another bit of Truth, and an excuse to make sly references to the Matrix as though only they grasp the plot (which has been around since the Fifties). About as welcome as Mormons and JWs knocking on your front door.
#120. To: tpaine (#118) (Edited)
It all still doesn't explain how you'd concluded that Christianity, aka "religious fanaticism took too much control."
Or the meme of how Goldie supposedly safeguarded LP from it as though it were an unchecked cancer. Christians did NOT monopolize or control the forum.
Fact is, Free Speech was blunted. You endorsed it. And NO, there never was any such Christian "fanaticism" at LP. EVER.
#121. To: TooConservative (#119)
All because you weren't allowed to hijack every thread at LP to shove religion at Goldi or Marguerite or meguro or whoever?
Lol, you're now officially insane. I'd LOVE for you to back up that scurrilous charge.
Backstabbing? Try "calling out." Fine, then defend your bullshit.
Stop your endless moderating and straddling the fence of principle. When "fanatical Christians" were maligned and slandered, WHERE WERE YOU to defend the faith AND charge? (no where.)
Invoking "Trutherism" wins you no debate either. It's the same as calling someone a "homophobe," racist," "anti-semetic", "Islamophobe," etc. Designed purely to shut down debate without examining all the facts. I'm not going to belabor that issue with you. If you want to believe Official Fairy Tales, who am I to tell you otherwise?
#122. To: Liberator (#121)
When "fanatical Christians" were maligned and slandered, WHERE WERE YOU to defend the faith AND charge? (no where.)
I thought there was little point in bothering to debate people whose chronic threadjacking habits were so undeniable.
I never liked threadjacking. In the old days on Usenet (late 80's), we had mods who were quite strict about it.
#123. To: Liberator, sneakypete, Y'ALL (#104)
Liberator (#90) -- Are those laws about converting you to Christianity?Pete --- No,they are about forcing me at gunpoint to live according to your Christian version of Sharia Law.
Lib --- Any coercion or threats involved? --- Yes or No
Pete -- Yes. Starting with fines and evolving to time in prison.
Lib -- And whomever did so committed a criminal act (however, they did NOT act upon ANY Biblical/Christian principles -- know THAT.) Did you report it to the proper authorities at the time?
Here we have it sports fans, a clear example of liberators circular argument ploy. The argument is about religious 'shiria' style law, and liberators asserts that whoever violated that questionable 'law', committed a criminal act..
Round we go ....
#124. To: Liberator (#120)
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", --- refers to freedom from STATE religion, and freedom OF religion.
Yes, the MOSTLY Christian Founders are THE ones who specified that no STATE religion be enforced or coerced upon the citizenry as a matter of Constitutionality.
Thank you for conceding that point.
And that's "FREEDOM OF RELIGION," Einstein, in the context of freely worshipping as one pleases.
The free exercise clause applies, and is quoted just above. Read much?
It all still doesn't explain how you'd concluded that Christianity, aka "religious fanaticism took too much control."
So you concede both of my points above, and now want to divert back to one of my comments at LP? I explained that comment on the thread you cited. Get off the circular argument bit.
Or the meme of how Goldie supposedly safeguarded LP from it as though it were an unchecked cancer. Christians did NOT monopolize or control the forum.
Because she made it so.
Fact is, Free Speech was blunted. You endorsed it. And NO, there never was any such Christian "fanaticism" at LP. EVER.
You're entitled to your opinions. They are not facts.
#125. To: sneakypete (#30)
you clearly want to force your religious viewpoints on everyone else.
Hey, you are trying to force your views. But you are failing ha ha.
Keep on trying though ;)
#126. To: Liberator, TooConservative, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, Don, out damned spot, Orthodoxa, BobCeleste (#97)
Frankly I did not see anyone "storm out." Those that did leave had good cause to do so. The Name of Jesus Christ was blasphemed on the "vomit" thread. Christ's followers were "bagged and tagged" as extremists. So those that left had a good cause to do so and every right to defend their faith and beliefs.
Goldi later clarified her position but never apologized. It was her site so people can come and go.
She's gone now so let's all stop stepping on her grave. We should give it up now. All is in God's Hands now. Goldi is no longer with us to opine one way or the other.
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”(Isaiah 40:8)
#127. To: redleghunter (#126)
Goldi later clarified her position but never apologized.
She was one of those people who never apologized for anything. I think she was sad over her outburst and felt remorse.
Some people just don't apologize at all. My dad was like that.
#128. To: Biff Tannen (#113)
What happened to the Mad Dog pic?
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”(Isaiah 40:8)
#129. To: hondo68, Vicomte13 (#114)
Back in the 1950's there was a Blue Law prohibiting retail sales on Sunday, in Ohio. It made weekend shopping tough.
Can't buy what you need Mon-Sat?:)
Regardless of faith, everyone needs a day off. Chick Fil A is closed on Sunday.
What's the issue with giving folks off work at least one day a week?
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”(Isaiah 40:8)
#130. To: redleghunter (#129)
What's the issue with giving folks off work at least one day a week?
And the holidays, both religious and secular.
#131. To: redleghunter (#129)
What's the issue with giving folks off work at least one day a week?
How many workers in the USA today don't get at least one day a week off?
#132. To: redleghunter (#129)
Chick Fil A is closed on Sunday.
Motorcycle shops used to be closed on Monday. Race on Sunday, pick up the pieces and recover on Monday.
There's nothing wrong with a day off. Attempts to legislate morality are frequently based on religion. Alcohol, drugs, prostitution and others, government should just butt out of. The D&R party is giving religion a bad name. Being a Christian doesn't have to be painful, IMO.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#133. To: tpaine, liberator, BobCeleste, GarySpFc, TooConservative, sneakypete (#118) (Edited)
religious fundamentalists
Y'all throw out that fundamentalist moniker quite often. When in fact it is nothing like what it means.
FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE FAITH There are five fundamentals of the faith which are essential for Christianity, and upon which we agree: 1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).
2. The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).
3. The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 9:12-14).
4. The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).
5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20).
At the beginning of the 20th century those who held to the above were called "fundamentalists."
I believe all of the above! Guilty as charged! So did our nation's founders!
The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity. - John Adams
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God. - John Adams
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God. - John Adams
“The United States in Congress assembled … recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States … a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.” - United States Congress 1782 -
It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. - Patrick Henry -
The Scriptures tell us righteousness exalteth a Nation.” - Abigail Adams
"The only foundation for . . . a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.” - Benjamin Rush -
See more at: http://www.usachristianministries.com/us-history- quotes-about- god-and-the-bible/#.dpuf
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”(Isaiah 40:8)
#134. To: TooConservative, pcpete, decktwat, tpinthea** (#130)
Do you know what a false dichotomy is !
your dna is tuned liberal !
You're spawning up - down a liberal dump - sewer !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
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