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Corrupt Government Title: Sailors Leaving The Navy Because Obama is a Pole Sucking Faggot pushing Sexual Perversion on them A Navy F-18 fighter pilot and former Top Gun instructor is publicly warning admirals that retention is beginning to suffer from the military’s relentless social conditioning programs. Cmdr. Guy Snodgrass, until recently a Pentagon speech writer for the chief of naval operations, Adm. Jonathan Greenert, said sailors are becoming fed-up with the constant emphasis on social issues — an apparent reference to gays in the military, women in combat and ending sexual harassment. SEE ALSO: Obama to kill Navy’s Tomahawk, Hellfire missile programs in budget decimation “Sailors continue to cite the over-focus on social issues by senior leadership, above and beyond discussions on war fighting — a fact that demoralizes junior and mid-grade officers alike,” Cmdr. Snodgrass wrote this month on the U.S. Naval Institute website, an independent forum for active and retired sailors and Marines. It is a remarkably frank assessment from an upwardly mobile fighter pilot who is due to become the executive officer of a F-18 unit in Japan. He says one troubling sign already has emerged: a drop in applications to the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis last year. “The U.S. Navy has a looming officer retention problem,” Cmdr. Snodgrass writes, adding there is an “erosion of trust in senior leadership.” He says retention racked up its “worst year in history” for the special warfare community, including Navy SEALs, with a record number of lieutenants declining to stay. The aviation side had a goal of 45 percent “take rate” on retention bonuses, but got only 36 percent. SEE ALSO: Pacific Cmdr.: U.S. lacks ability to conduct successful amphibious assaults “Unfortunately,” Cmdr. Snodgrass says in his 24-page study, “the fact that a growing number of quality officers have already left the service or are planning to head for the doors seems to be going undetected by senior leadership.” He lists long wartime deployments as a leading retention negative. He also tackles a touchier issue, what some sailors have referred to as “political correctness,” such as the banning of uniform patches that might offend someone. Cmdr. Snodgrass writes of “a recent shift within the Navy to eradicate behavior that is, by its every nature, ineradicable.” “Put simply, there is no dollar amount that can be spent, or amount of training that can be conducted, that will completely eradicate complex issues such as suicide, sexual assault, or commanding officer reliefs for cause — yet we continue to expend immense resources in this pursuit,” he says. “Sailors are bombarded with annual online training, general military training, and safety stand-downs — all in an effort to combat problems that will never be defeated.” Some of the pressure comes from Congress. “The perception is that these efforts are not undertaken because they are incredibly effective, but rather because of significant political and public oversight,” the commander says. Vice Adm. William Moran, deputy chief of naval operations for manpower, personnel, training and education, told The Washington Times Tuesday that he applauds Cmdr. Snodgrass for warning that retention problems may lie ahead. “I share many of the concerns and have similar questions raised in the paper,” Adm. Moran said. “Many have heard me on the road talk about how the Bureau of Naval Personnel, historically ‘swings behind the pitch,’ unable to nimbly react to economic and early stage retention issues. It’s not neglect, good people here trying to do the best they can with limited tools, but the fact is it has cost us in both good people and money. We have to do better, and I must say that this discourse helps.” He added: “Fostering an environment where our people feel empowered to share thoughts on important issues is a core responsibility of leadership — ideas, good and bad, have no rank.” Poster Comment: Obama would be a traitor if he was actually a citizen. He would be guilty of treason and swinging from a California Hemp Rope if so many citizens of the country weren't fucked in the head. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited) In the 1st debate with McCain ... obomba said privatization of the mortgage market didn't work --- nobody said anything ! In the 2nd debate with Romney ... obomba said hire more teachers --- nobody said anything ! Hundreds of millions of idiots voted for this dumbass ! Only mass brainwashing - indoctrination - HYPNOTISM can explain this phenomena ! If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys ! #2. To: A K A Stone (#0) Worse than the mass exodus of pilots/aviators in the late 90s under Clinton's military. Had a few buddies get out for greener pastures flying commerical. Those that stayed well that's a story. Around '97 they realized they were loosing too many quality fixed wing pilots/aviators. So they had to spend some money to keep them. Went to Command and Staff College with a Marine aviator who stayed in since the DoD made him an offer his wife wouldn't refuse:) Basically, the deal was IN ADDITION to his field grade Major salary (not shabby by the least) and flight pay he received aviator bonus pay. The bonus pay will shock you (it did me). He received $25,000 bucks A YEAR (in addition to his salary and usual flight pay). As we were sharing some BBQ with family I misunderstood him and thought it was $25K one time deal. No, the deal was he had to sign a six year contract and each year of the 6 year contract he was handed a $25,000 check. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12) #3. To: A K A Stone (#0) "...sailors are becoming fed-up with the constant emphasis on social issues — an apparent reference to gays in the military, women in combat and ending sexual harassment..."
So.....
the military culture that has rewarded and encouraged homophobia, sexism, misogyny, sexual assault, and rape has finally been rejected......
and some refuse to accept this rejection and behave like normal American adults... instead they choose to quit..... Perhaps the changes our officers have enacted are working...... Sometimes a culling of the heard is necessary, and results in a stronger and healthier farm.
#4. To: A K A Stone (#0) Title: Sailors Leaving The Navy Because Obama is a Pole Sucking Faggot pushing Sexual Perversion on them Obama is a Pole Sucking Faggot pushing Sexual Perversion on them
Author: Rowan Scarborough
I think you should point out that the title was provided by "A K A Stone" and not Rowan Scarborough....
While I am no particular fan of many of Mr. Scarborough's positions, I have never read anything he has written that was titled in such a crass and classless manner. You should probably apologize to him.
#5. To: Jameson (#3) the military culture that has rewarded and encouraged homophobia, Why do you use made up faggot words? No such thing. Why do you support homosexuals who are not normal. It is like a little kid whining that they want to do something wrong and the parents give in.
#6. To: Jameson (#3) and some refuse to accept this rejection and behave like normal American adults. Normal adults aren't so fucked in the head they say two men are married. Only sickos think like that.
#7. To: Jameson (#3) Sometimes a culling of the heard is necessary, and results in a stronger and healthier farm. Are you suggesting the liberals all commit suicide? Interesting idea. It would actually save the country.
#8. To: Jameson (#4) I have never read anything he has written that was titled in such a crass and classless manner. Obama is classless and deserves no ones respect. The title is accurate. If you sit like that you are a faggot.
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) If you sit like that you are a faggot. I am curious about your personal perspective just quoted (above) on this HUGE web board called Liberty's Flame that you just broadcasted just above. Why do you care about faggots in the first place?
#10. To: buckeroo (#9) Why do you care about faggots in the first place? Because I care about our culture. I don't think it is right to raise kids to believe wrong things. The mass media and the fag president is trying to tell everyone that it is ok to be a homosexual. It isn't ok it is wrong. It is unnatural. Telling people sin is a virtue is a road that will lead us to lots of problems. It is akin to telling someone it is ok to murder someone. Oh we do that too. Our great culture and heritage is turning into a shit filled sewer.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#5) Why do you support homosexuals who are not normal. Not sure what you mean by "support" - please explain.
#12. To: A K A Stone (#6) Normal adults aren't so fucked in the head they say two men are married.
This remark is off-topic. What is being discussed in this article is the cultural change taking place within the military which requires that all members are treated with respect and that all types of abuse will no longer be tolerated. Which is how normal adult Americans behave......get it?
#13. To: A K A Stone (#7) Are you suggesting the liberals all commit suicide?
No.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#10) Because I care about our culture.
"Our Culture" please describe your vision of "Our" culture - and discuss: 1. Women
#15. To: Jameson (#12) What is being discussed in this article is the cultural change taking place within the military which requires that all members are treated with respect Trying to force liberal fucked in the headness onto moral people. Why do you assholes insist on trying to do this. You insist on saying wrong is right. You liberals are mentally ill, wanting respect for someting unrespectful. Yeah we should all respect some man based on his practice of homosexual sex. The only question is if you are immoral or just to stupid to know the difference between right and wrong. So you immoral or amoral?
#16. To: Jameson (#14) 1. Women 2. Minorities 3. Religious Freedom 4. Personal Freedom 5. Non- Americans 6. Firearms Lets start with women.
Beautiful creatures. Thank God for them. What is the role of women in society. Women are supposed to get married and raise a family. Women who kill their kids are evil and should face capital punishment. When you liberals talk about womens issues you really mean the right to kill your kid. Anyone who favors abortion shouldn't be taken seriously.
#17. To: Jameson (#14) 2. Minorities Majority rules. How did these minorities get here anyway. Many of them aren't real Americans. You know the ones who aren't christian. This is a christian nation. Spit on the Koran.
#18. To: Jameson (#14) 3. Religious Freedom Everyone should be free to have their own religion. But only the christian religion should be taught in schools and that is the only acceptable prayer. No Muslim holidays should be celebrated only christian ones. This is a christian nation.
#19. To: Jameson (#14) 3. Religious Freedom Peronal Freedom. You should be free to do what you want as long as you aren't hurting others. There are exceptions and I will deal with them on a case by case basis. Using morality right and wrong. I know right from wrong.
#20. To: Jameson (#14) 5. Non- Americans Come visit if you are from a friendly country. If you do it legally. Otherwise if you jump the fence don't expect to tell us what to do and demand drivers licenses and stuff. Get the F out of California and give it back to its rightful inhabitants. The descendants of those who were there in the 50's. And a few hundred more. If your parents weren't in California during WWII or somewhere else in America. Then get out of California and watch it prosper again.
#21. To: Jameson (#14) 6. Firearms Firearms. Any kind any amount. No restrictions. Harsh penalties if you use them to hurt others or do immoral things with them.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#19) You should be free to do what you want as long as you aren't hurting others. Does or has within the framework or recorded history, religion ever hurt anyone? How about chatting about your opinion concerning Christian faith before moving onto any other faith?
#23. To: A K A Stone (#15) ...Yeah we should all respect some man based on his practice of homosexual sex...
Here is the point at which your reasoning is flawed.
This is not about the moral nature of an act of intimacy, it is about the Navy accepting that there are homosexuals in their ranks, that women are just as capable as men, and that no one deserves harassment. The author suggests that a there is a small percentage of sailors who are choosing to leave rather than to face the reality of the facts.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#16) What is the role of women in society.
Wow, your view of "our culture" has us returning to the 1940's..... Fortunately, this is NOT the case, women will decide for themselves what direction their life will take.
We like to call that personal freedom.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#17) Majority rules.
In your vision for "Our Culture" majority rules? - be careful what you wish for... and you're saying that non-christian people aren't real Americans...
"This is a christian nation."
I think you might want to review the teachings of Jesus and think about whether or not your vision for our culture agrees with his....
#26. To: A K A Stone (#19) 3. Religious Freedom Peronal Freedom. - Not sure what this means....
You should be free to do what you want as long as you aren't hurting others.
What if a woman wants to serve in the military? or What if she wants to be a Muslim?
I know right from wrong.
No, you don't.
#27. To: A K A Stone (#20) Get the F out of California and give it back to its rightful inhabitants. The descendants of those who were there in the 50's......If your parents weren't in California during WWII or somewhere else in America. Then get out of California and watch it prosper again.
Substitute the word "Germany" for the words "Califronia" and America" in your rant, and you sound a lot like someone named Adolf......
#28. To: A K A Stone (#21) Any kind any amount. No restrictions. No restrictions.......
ok, so the mentally ill get guns, right? How about convicted felons? What about children? Do women count?
Harsh penalties if you use them to hurt others or do immoral things with them.
So do the harsh penalties include disallowing the ownership of guns????
#29. To: Jameson (#23) This is not about the moral nature of an act of intimacy, it is about the Navy accepting that there are homosexuals in their ranks, that women are just as capable as men, and that no one deserves harassment. Yes it is about moral vs immoral. We should strive for moral. Homos are immoral by definition. They are corrosive to the military and anything they are around. They want to be treated special. Women are not just as capable as men. There really are differences. If women are just as capable why are their chin up standards lower? If you really think no on deserves harrassment then why did Obama harrass our navy by letting his people in the Navy ie faggots. What reality are the sailors ignoring.
#30. To: Jameson (#28) So do the harsh penalties include disallowing the ownership of guns???? If you murder someone with a gun. You should be executed. So it is a moot point if they could still own a gun. I guess they could put in in their casket.
#31. To: Jameson (#25) and you're saying that non-christian people aren't real Americans... No. I am saying we have a christian based culture and we should keep it that way. If some fool doesn't believe. That is ok. Just don't try to impose your foolishness on the rest of society.
#32. To: Jameson (#28) ok, so the mentally ill get guns, right? How about convicted felons? What about children? Do women count? Kids shold have guns if their parents want them too. They should also teach shooting at school. Of course women should be allowed to have guns if they want to. As long as they don't have any prior violence in their lives. Like say aborting your kid. If you kill your kid you can't be trusted with a gun.
#33. To: Jameson (#26) What if a woman wants to serve in the military? or What if she wants to be a Muslim? If a women wants to serve in the military. They should be a nurse or in some administrative position. Not in actual combat. They are too weak. No women should be a muslim. Muslim isn't a real religion.
#34. To: Jameson (#28) How about convicted felons? Depends on the felony. Be more specific.
#35. To: Jameson (#24) Wow, your view of "our culture" has us returning to the 1940's.... Gee everyone might have a job.
#36. To: Jameson (#28) Should you have to bake a cake for a faggot if you don't want to?
#37. To: A K A Stone (#36) Should you have to bake a cake for a faggot if you don't want to?
Yes. Do it now. Deliver the cake to gop headquarters.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#35) Gee everyone might have a job. Right! Especially if all them women were at home in the kitchen making pie instead of taking our jobs!!
#39. To: A K A Stone (#34) Depends on the felony. Be more specific. ok..... Armed Robbery.......
(No restrictions, right? !!!)
#40. To: A K A Stone (#32) If you kill your kid you can't be trusted with a gun.
Ok, so restrictions then..... now we're getting somewhere! What about mentally ill people, or the mentally disabled. What about Alzheimer's patients? What about someone who states that he or she will commit murder as soon as a gun is available....??? (of course if it is a woman she would probably just put some rat poison in that pie she's baking!)
#41. To: Jameson (#37) Should you have to bake a cake for a faggot if you don't want to? To be consistent. A black baker should have to bake a cake for the KKK right?
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