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Title: Question: What are Good Ideas for Preparing for Disaster?
Source: buckeroo
URL Source: http://here@LF.com
Published: Feb 26, 2014
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2014-02-26 22:41:14 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 41860
Comments: 95

The country is a mess. The state you live in is a mess. The county you live in is a mess. The city you live in is a mess. But what have you performed to prepare for disaster from any force whether manmade or natural?

Have you electrical power? Solar/NaturalGas/Propane/Gasoline Generator(s) to generate electricity for your various needs? Water? Food? Shelter? How about a library whether hardcover/paperback/electronic? What about personal defense?

The goal of this thread is to describe your ideas to become self-sufficient within reasonable personal means, independent of the messes that most know pre-exisit in an arbitrary world.

Make a comment about what you have performed and/or plan to do.

buck

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

What a person would do depends on the person's status: believer or non-believer. A believer would depend upon God who will take care of him. A non-believer's best course of action would be to lean over, put his head between his legs, and kiss his a-- goodbye.

Don  posted on  2014-02-26   23:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Don (#1)

Hi Don -

Are you saying God wipes your ass, too? And you call that act being prepared?

buck

buckeroo  posted on  2014-02-26   23:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

You are the one who is talking about fecal matter. That should surprise no one. If you are really interested in Road Warrior scenarios, just stick around. It's coming your way.

Don  posted on  2014-02-27   1:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#0)

The country is a mess. The state you live in is a mess. The county you live in is a mess. The city you live in is a mess. But what have you performed to prepare for disaster from any force whether manmade or natural?

Let's be honest. Our country really isn't "a mess" - nor are our states, counties, or cities. There are a lot of places in the world that are in bad shape, here in the USA, that is not the case.

Now, natural disasters are another story. Sometimes they happen. The biggest threats we have in central Ohio are tornadoes and ice storms/blizzards. In the event of either, lack of utilities for a week or so would be the worst part.We have plenty of water and non-perishables, a fireplace, and a gas grill. We'd be fine. We usually have one or two bad storms a year and at least one major winter event.

Worst case, we have plenty of family, friends and neighbors nearby.

Not sure what you mean by "manmade" but There will never be a zombie apocalypse...

Jameson  posted on  2014-02-27   12:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Don (#3)

You are the one who is talking about fecal matter.

Ahh ... just a moment, Donny ... did you state the following in the first post of the thread?

A non-believer's best course of action would be to lean over, put his head between his legs, and kiss his a-- goodbye.

What illusion are you under? You made the subtle attempt about an ass right out of the gate ... FIRST.

I suppose God and/or your Bible shall help you navigate through a disaster while you sit on your ASS waiting for a divine message.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-02-27   19:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jameson (#4)

Let's be honest. Our country really isn't "a mess" - nor are our states, counties, or cities. There are a lot of places in the world that are in bad shape, here in the USA, that is not the case.

Why don't you be honest? The place is a freak show. Worst economy in history when ratiometrically measured to ALL combined city/county/state/federal government debt while more people work for those same entities in all of history.

Worst case, we have plenty of family, friends and neighbors nearby.

Living off the "fat" o' the land, aren't ya?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-02-27   20:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#5)

My remark was a non-believer could kiss his a-- goodbye. I assume you know what a kiss is. You tried to make a smart come-back and failed.

Don  posted on  2014-02-27   21:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Don (#7)

I am attempting to understand your point in regards to the thread topic.

This thread is about being prepared for disasters. What does being a non-believer about God have to do with the thread? Do you and other so-called "believers" have a super-secret maejiick trick you can discuss with us that can exactly pin-point your capability and capacitity for preparedness considerations/planning and provide recommendations besides citing a comick book called "the Bible?"

buckeroo  posted on  2014-02-27   21:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#6)

The place is a freak show. Worst economy in history when ratiometrically measured to ALL combined city/county/state/federal government debt while more people work for those same entities in all of history.

Sort of a narrow view, don't you think?

Living off the "fat" o' the land, aren't ya?

What's your point?

Jameson  posted on  2014-02-28   4:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jameson (#9)

Sort of a narrow view, don't you think?

Narrow? Naw ... it is all about "quality of life" and when QoL plummets a little uprising occurs. It is a fairely simple principle. It is imbued in thousands of years mankind's documented history whether real or imagined.

Living off the "fat" o' the land, aren't ya?

What's your point?

You seem to have only a "plan" to live off of other's generousity. You havn't done much for yourself.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-01   7:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#8)

What is your definition of disaster? Are you waiting for a solar flare or pulse bomb to wipe out your computer or a thunderstorm to tap dance on your head? Do you want to fight hoards of rioting bad guys or eat for a week or so while the grocery stores restock their shelves? What is your pleasure?

Don  posted on  2014-03-01   8:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Don (#11)

Yeah. I want to test your faith.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-01   8:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12) (Edited)

Whatever ideas are in your head will have to reside there to tempt yourself in whatever faith is in you.

Keep a close eye on those redskins coming through your windows.

Don  posted on  2014-03-01   14:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Don (#13)

You seem to have your imaginative leanings borrowed from your Sunday school teacher's consistent begging for alms at the pulpit.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-01   20:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#14)

Bucky, you have to use more imagination. That was almost funny.

Don  posted on  2014-03-01   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Don (#15)

We are dealing with your personal planning about your own survival on this thread. And, so far, your Bible thumping is a silly "dud."

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-01   21:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#16)

I answered your question in my first post. You simply couldn't understand it.

Don  posted on  2014-03-01   23:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo, Don (#0)

Actually Texas is not a mess to respond to disasters. We do it quite often. West TX and Hurricane Rita come to mind as well as Katrina in the Gulf areas. Texas responded well. The locals pull together. When West TX had the fertilizer plant explosion local emergency response was well managed. Hundreds of local churches opened their doors for the homeless, fed hundreds, provided clothing and even work. In the secular Northeast people went dumpster diving for food after Sandy while they waited for the Usurper in chief to bring them FEMA.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2014-03-02   0:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Don (#17)

I suppose you were attempting a, "man does not live by bread alone" Kodak moment. But, how about some freeze dried, vaccum sealed food stored away for potential disasters?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   9:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#18)

Your perspective highlights a "no plan" in all instances cited. What have you done to prepare for a disaster?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   9:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#10)

You seem to have only a "plan" to live off of other's "generosity". You havn't done much for yourself.

Live off others' generosity?

that's another narrow view.....We're quite capable of taking care of ourselves, and in reality - friends, family and neighbors are welcome to gather in MY home if mother nature causes a temporary interruption....as my family would be welcome in theirs. Can you grasp the difference?

I believe the preppers are wasting an enormous amount of time, effort and resources hoping for their catastrophic apocalypse.....JMHO

QOL "plummets"? Are you serious? QOL has never been better in this country.

Americans live in luxury. Medicine, science and technology are improving our standard of living by leaps and bounds! We are smarter, better fed, more pampered, relaxed and happy! On what quality of life issues are you focusing?

Uprising? Please, there will be no uprisings, that is ridiculous.

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   10:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jameson (#21)

QOL "plummets"? Are you serious? QOL has never been better in this country.

LOL

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   10:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jameson (#21)

We are smarter,

If that is true. Why is Americas ranking in education falling so far.

If that is true why are so many people to stupid to know marriage is between a man and a woman. Someone has to be really dumb to pretend that perverts are normal and acceptable.

Here is what we need. A sword for when the bullets run out. So you can behead the enemies like the black chick on the walking dead.

The parable about the Bridegroom found in Matthew chapter 25 is also good advice.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   11:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: redleghunter, Bucky (#18)

Yeah, we have a full fridge and freezer. I think we are ok for natural disasters, which normally have a short duration. If Bucky wants to know about preparations for solar flares or invasion by the elves and the gremlins or an end of the world, about the best he could do for long term survival is buy a couple of boxes of Hershey's Chocolate. What part of "end of the world," that they constantly talk about do they have a problem understanding? If the world ends as many of them predict, do they expect to live on a tiny slice of Mother Earth whizzing through the Galaxy while they are guzzling home brew? It all reminds me of the building of fall-out shelters craze of the Cold War Era.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   11:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Don (#24)

Yeah, we have a full fridge and freezer. I think we are ok for natural disasters, which normally have a short duration.

What happens when your electrical power is disrupted? Do you (as the thread title indicates) have backup electrical power?

If Bucky wants to know about preparations for solar flares or invasion by the elves and the gremlins or an end of the world, about the best he could do for long term survival is buy a couple of boxes of Hershey's Chocolate. What part of "end of the world," that they constantly talk about do they have a problem understanding? If the world ends as many of them predict, do they expect to live on a tiny slice of Mother Earth whizzing through the Galaxy while they are guzzling home brew? It all reminds me of the building of fall-out shelters craze of the Cold War Era.

Donnie .. please do a favor for those viewing the thread: stay on track. Nowhere have I indicated "end of the world" scenarios. In fact, you have consistently poised yourself as a Christian evangelist that believes in some sort of, "end of the world" as Jesus is coming for you and taking you to heaven because of your strident belief system. Why on Earth are you projecting your own ideas on me or anyone that intelligently considers planning for uneventful disasters?

I suppose all you require is a cross, a Bible and a prayer in order to prepare.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   11:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#22)

QOL "plummets"? Are you serious? QOL has never been better in this country.

LOL

"LOL"

Great response, really articulate, you've certainly brought everyone around to your position with that! /s

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   14:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jameson (#26)

Thank you. It was the very least I could do for your earlier response. I have a recomendation for you: pull your head out of your ass and look around.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   14:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#23)

If that is true. Why is Americas ranking in education falling so far.

Give me access to enough statistical data, I'll support whatever position you desire to have supported.

Ask yourself, who benefits from "America's declining ranking in education?"

"If that is true why are so many people to stupid to know marriage is between a man and a woman."

......you mean, "too stupid" right?.....

Anyway, perhaps you feel it is stupidity....most Americans simply believe that equality means equal rights and equal treatment under the law.

Here is what we need. A sword for when the bullets run out. So you can behead the enemies..."

....and who are the "enemies" whom you wish to behead?

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   14:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#27)

I have a recomendation for you: pull your head out of your ass and look around.

"recommendation" (because spelling!!)

Yeah....More great points to support your position.......

Sorry Chicken Little, the sky is not falling. As much as you wish to imagine it is....it is not.

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   14:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jameson (#29)

You have proudly established yourself as an expert about some childhood spielin'bee. Free proud of your accomplishment.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   15:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo, AKA Stone (#30)

You have established yourself as an expert.....

Hmmmm... so, from your perspective the ability to use "spell check" constitutes expertise......

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   15:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jameson (#31)

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

Of course. There is no question you are wrong.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   15:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#32)

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

As you have proven beyond any doubt.

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   15:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jameson (#33)

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

You posed the question about yourself. My rhetorical and somewhat sarcastic reply is consistent about your inability of and about your own capabilities. You are living proof for the reasons of America's failed capacity and capabilty.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   15:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#28)

If that is true. Why is Americas ranking in education falling so far.

Give me access to enough statistical data, I'll support whatever position you desire to have supported.

I didn't ask you to manipulate data like a typical liberal. I was just telling you the truth. Do you deny that our people in large are going poorer educationally? I mean how many people voted for a President that anyone with any sense knew was an evil piece of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   17:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jameson (#28)

Anyway, perhaps you feel it is stupidity....most Americans simply believe that equality means equal rights and equal treatment under the law.

Only a a moron thinks men and woman can be married.

I think that the universities are discriminating by having girl only leagues. Men should be able to goin the NCAA. Otherwise it is discrimination.

You agree or you are just a faggot liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   17:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jameson (#28)

Here is what we need. A sword for when the bullets run out. So you can behead the enemies..."

....and who are the "enemies" whom you wish to behead?

Liberals. They are thieves. It would be a preventive measure. Everyone knows how lazy deadbeats act.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   17:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#25)

Doomsday Preppers are always talking about that scenario and go off into left field looking as though they anticipate living in a Road Warrior movie; of course, we all know you have your feet planted firmly on the ground and you never watch the Preppers shows on the National Geographic channel. That is right, of course, right?

Stay on target, Luke! Stay on target!

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   19:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Don (#38)

Doomsday Preppers are always talking about that scenario and go off into left field looking as though they anticipate living in a Road Warrior movie; of course, we all know you have your feet planted firmly on the ground and you never watch the Preppers shows on the National Geographic channel. That is right, of course, right?

Donnie ... I havn't watched TV since 1993. So, again, you are wrong. Here, let me help you out: read your Bible and pray to some illusive God while rolling your rosary between your thumb and forefinger. Wh knows ... you might, just might, get closer to the truth.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   19:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

Come on, Bucky. You don' need to be ashamed. I won't tell anyone.

Rosary? Why shucks, Partner, I don't have one of those things.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   20:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Don (#40)

What do you learn based on your many fruitless hours devouring selected topics on TV? How to pray? How to smell nice? How the weather is forecasted when all you have to do is stich your head out the door and treat yourself to the actual environment?

Planning is everything. And watching TV is not planning; the act is a vegetising experience for the almost brain-dead; watching National Geographic and catching a glimpse of the latest infomercial is hardly worthy of one's time; this is true of my time.

OK ... so you don't run your rosary between your fingers; what other Christian amulet do you use?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   20:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

Everything depends on what you are looking forward to. You did say planning. You are a Prepper, aren't you. Don't forget to stock up on some good books.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   22:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Don (#42)

Don't forget to stock up on some good books.

Are you recommending some silly, comick book that you seem to always tout?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   22:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#43)

Well, you could try Superman or Superwoman. They have proven they can survive.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   23:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#20)

Guns, ammo, food, battery operated emergency gear, 12 baseball bats with 5 wood which can be converted to mace configuration with some nails. One neighbor has a generator and another sandbags and concertina wire. Fishing and archery gear, tents and various camping gear. Oh and a hose to siphon gas or diesel. Also a champion Labrador retriever to assist in all outdoors affairs.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2014-03-03   1:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Don (#24)

You have to realize there is an increase of people in this country who now truly believe a zombie apocalypse "can" happen.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2014-03-03   1:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#36)

Only a a moron thinks men and woman can be married.

Ok......so you don't believe men and women can be married?

and......anyone who does not agree is a moron?

Then you said, "...I think that the universities are discriminating by having girl only leagues. Men should be able to goin the NCAA..."

yeah..."...Men should be able to goin the NCAA..."

Awesome post! really meaningful!

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   5:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#37)

....and who are the "enemies" whom you wish to behead?

Liberals. They are thieves. It would be a preventive measure.

Now you advocate "beheading" those with which you disagree.......

Sounds like the Taliban, doesn't it?

I don't think you really mean it. You're like that sad drunk sitting alone at the end of the bar blubbering about how he'll have his revenge on all of his imagined enemies....

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   5:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jameson (#47)

yeah..."...Men should be able to goin the NCAA..."

Awesome post! really meaningful!

I'm tryint to sound stupid like a liberal.

So you do support men joining women's basketball teams correct? Otherwise you are a hypocrite and probably a faggot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   7:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jameson (#48)

Now you advocate "beheading" those with which you disagree.......

Sounds like the Taliban, doesn't it?

Don't you khow what it would be like if the supermarets were not being replenished? It would be an animal house. You would likely have to kill or be killed.

And I rarely drink. Maybe once or twice a year. Or even less.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   7:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Do you deny that our people in large are going poorer educationally?

Here is my comment: "We are smarter, better fed, more pampered, relaxed and happy!"

I contend that we are, as a society, absolutely smarter.

I will concede that our public education system is failing a significant percentage of our young students, and I also concede that there is a very visible segment of our population that chooses to be ignorant.

"I mean how many people voted for a President that anyone with any sense knew was an evil piece of shit."

Please check my numbers, but I found the vote count to be "60,221,746"

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   7:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#50)

Don't you khow what it would be like if the supermarets were not being replenished? It would be an animal house. You would likely have to kill or be killed.

"...Don't you know what it would be like if the supermarkets were not being replenished?..."

So you're framing this against the backdrop of the zombie apocalypse...I see.

"You would likely have to kill or be killed."

Or go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.......

"...And I rarely drink. Maybe once or twice a year. Or even less..."

Perhaps you should start? I recommend Irish Whiskey....obviously

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   8:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#49)

So you do support men joining women's basketball teams correct? Otherwise you are a hypocrite and probably a faggot.

"...so you do support men joining women's basketball teams correct?..."

I've never given it a moment's thought. I suppose it would make it easier for the white guys to see more playing time....

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   8:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jameson (#53)

. I suppose it would make it easier for the white guys to see more playing time....

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   9:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#54)

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

No, I'm a white guy!

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   9:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jameson (#55)

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

No, I'm a white guy!

Let me make a similar comment and tell me if it is racist.

Since affirmative action. Blacks have been given jobs that they never could have had before. Because whites are smarter.

I'm just playing devils advocate.

Blacks actually achieve better in sports such as basketball then whites do. I acknowledge that. But Whites tend to do better in getting an education.

Would you say that is genetic, coincidence or what?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   9:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)

Blacks actually achieve better in sports such as basketball then whites do.

Would you say that is genetic, coincidence or what?

I'll pick: "or what"

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   10:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#46)

Yeah, I know. Superstition is very strong in many people, always has been. Weak minds or deluded minds, I guess it makes little difference. The fall of mankind under Satan's tempting has degenerated many things.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   16:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: redleghunter, Bucky (#45)

Anyone who is serious about this can watch Doomsday Preppers. They are into this thing in a big way.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   16:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Don (#44)

Well, you could try Superman or Superwoman. They have proven they can survive.

This is good news for us, Donnie; I am confident that only you shall take your own recommendation as the gosple truth. However, since most of us are mere mortals and live in reality where history has proven that there are plenty of reasons about intelligently preparing for disasters, I am confused about your significant contribution to the thread.

What do you do when Lex Luther shows up? Show him your comick book or your Bible?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   20:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Don (#58)

Weak minds or deluded minds, I guess it makes little difference. The fall of mankind under Satan's tempting has degenerated many things.

Seek penance for your personal sins, Donnie. Be humble and grovel at the feet of your Sunday school teacher's feet for forgiveness; and don't forget to drop a buck into the offering tray thus providing you relief to your guilt and forever damnation. But, whatever you do, don't intelligently plan ... oh no, here is where you have to consult your Bible for some obscure passage that might be quickly interpreted by your Sunday school teacher as applicable for your neglect for family, friends and business.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#60)

When Lex shows up, I will simply refer him to you. See, problem solved.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   21:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#61)

Au contraire, mon ami. I plan all the time. When things are planned out to my satisfaction, I stop worrying about it. So far my planning has been spot on. I first trust in God to take care of me as He has promised to do. Then, I use common sense to do what I should. It has worked out so far. It has gotten me to my current age of 68, through 25 years in the military including a tour of duty in Vietnam, etc etc. I know that God is looking out for me and when I die, I know where I am going.

So, tell us about your planning.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   21:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Don (#62)

Impossible. My family and I shall be enjoying clear, sub-micron filtered, sparkling water with all kinds of added coffees, teas, milks, mochas and so forth, along with diversified 2K calorie freeze dried foods that allow a mere PRESTO! for preparation for some of the finest gourmet foods on the planet.

But you won't have any access to any of this stuff because of your choice about lack of planning. Nope. You have your comick books as your guide.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Don (#63)

I know that God is looking out for me and when I die, I know where I am going.

Your knowledge is by luck, by golly or by God! Doesn't sound like much of a plan.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#64)

I have a secret for you. That food doesn't sound that good. What happened to beef and veggies in your "plan".

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   23:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#65)

I can understand your thinking. You don't know anything about Him. He takes care of His people. He does allow the rain to fall and the sun to shine on the saved and unsaved; however, the bottom line is those who reject Him can easily get ignored when push comes to shove.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   23:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Don (#66)

What happened to beef and veggies in your "plan".

I didn't mention any specific food group other than a general way to ensure that you understood a 20+ year storage life capability for food: freeze dried method of food storage - this method applies to all organic or carbon based natural compounds both plant and animal; simply stated, the approach removes water for storage purposes within a vacuum chamber and when properly stored/packaged/handled, little loss of food content is achieved. Restoring a product is adding water, which I also mentioned as being pure sparlking water (slight alkaline content). Here is the brief content I suggested in the earlier post:

My family and I shall be enjoying clear, sub-micron filtered, sparkling water with all kinds of added coffees, teas, milks, mochas and so forth, along with diversified 2K calorie freeze dried foods that allow a mere PRESTO! for preparation for some of the finest gourmet foods on the planet.

Do I have to indicate all the food groups based on your omissions? If so, you need more than a brief post about being intelligently prepared for a disaster through planning - you need a complete education.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   0:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#68)

You don't know anything about Him.

Whom is "Him?" Where is "Him?" Are you talking about the "Great Pumpkin" that shall sprinkle all the good little boyz/girlz from the sky all the candy they want to have? Hmmm.

He takes care of His people.

"He" takes care of "His people?" Does "his people" have a pumpkin head like "he" does?

the bottom line is those who reject Him can easily get ignored when push comes to shove.

Prove it. Why do you limit your discussion to: those who reject "Him?" Don't you see a logical error in what you are suggesting? You have no more knowledge about God's actual sex than amoeba or even a rock buried under whale shit in the deepest part of the oceans on the planet.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   0:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: buckeroo (#68)

Bucky, you're a hoot. Keep it up. You do give laughs every so often.

Don  posted on  2014-03-05   9:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: buckeroo (#69)

You have no knowledge of God. When you rail against Him, you are showing your ignorance. You do try to be insulting to God and those who believe in Him. But, trust me Christians pay no attention to the nonsense of scoffers as we know Him and we know the end of non-believers. You have our pity and we will do what we can for you if you come to your senses and want to know Him as well.

There is only one name under Heaven by which you may be saved: Jesus Christ. If you want the reference in the Scriptures for that, let me know.

Don  posted on  2014-03-05   9:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Don (#70)

As usual, you have no rebuttal. I notice you don't add anything to the discussion other than you are embarrassingly amused.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   21:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Don (#71)

You have no knowledge of God.

I admit my ignorance, too. That is the reason for my perspective about a divine creator being a mystery; you, me nor anyone that has, is or shall walk this planet can not know ANYTHING about a divine creator. Moreover, your point is pointless directed towards me as it reflects your own tired ol'tyme religious zeal borrowed from some Sunday school teacher robbing you of your hard earned cash as though it was a "tithe in the name of Jesus." You have been swindled, pal.

When you rail against Him, you are showing your ignorance. You do try to be insulting to God and those who believe in Him. But, trust me Christians pay no attention to the nonsense of scoffers as we know Him and we know the end of non-believers. You have our pity and we will do what we can for you if you come to your senses and want to know Him as well.

Sorry, I mean no disrespect to you or anyone but you need to wake the fuck up and shake off this "Him" stuff that you have copied from some two-bit Sunday school teacher that also works as a snake oil salesman from Monday to Saturday. You expose yourself as a fool.

There is only one name under Heaven by which you may be saved: Jesus Christ. If you want the reference in the Scriptures for that, let me know.

OH horseshit! You don't know that anymore than your made-up God or "Him" or "Christian" religion that has intentionally murdered millions of People on the planet in some disgusting theocratic ritual that is later forgotten in the cobwebs of history.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   21:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: buckeroo (#72) (Edited)

Let me put it to you this way. When you start sounding like an Eastern potentate eating your little dainties, it is hard to take your post seriously. I don't even try.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   7:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo (#73) (Edited)

God Himself said people can know Him by His Creation. Read the first chapter of the Book of Romans. God also talks about the "wisdom" of this world. It doesn't compare with His wisdom.

I will give you this much. You do try to be insulting, but it doesn't work. Can you elaborate on millions of people killed in a ritual?

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   7:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Don (#74)

When you start sounding like an Eastern potentate eating your little dainties, it is hard to take your post seriously.

Hi Don - this thread is intended to discuss being prepared for disaster; there was no other intent other than at the top of the thread which has not been edited or changed or modified in any way.

This thread is NOT intended to be about about your "God" or "Him" or some make-believe religious study based or any religious doctrine pulled out of someone's ass in the past just because you believe in some form of ... ol'tyme religious tooth-faerie making you feel good and beam like a cock in the morning.

If anyone has been an authoritative jack-ass, it has been YOU. So far, all you have provided to the thread are off-topic commentaries about some Christian belief that measures up to your Sunday school teacher's pathetic rendering about the Bible. Also, you have posted dissent about having general and reasonable personal plans for having good drinkable, water and freeze-dried foods. You should feel embarrassed or have a sense of shame about how you have made this thread so important to YOU.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Don (#75)

God Himself said people can know Him by His Creation. Read the first chapter of the Book of Romans. God also talks about the "wisdom" of this world. It doesn't compare with His wisdom.

Donnie - what does your commentary have to do with anything that I have presented?

You do try to be insulting, but it doesn't work. Can you elaborate on millions of people killed in a ritual?

You require a historical education about religions of the world. But I am not going to provide that education to you. I suppose you can expect increasing condenscending remarcks from now and 'til your Jesus takes you upto the sky to play a harp and lay on a cloud.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: buckeroo (#76)

If you don't want an answer, don't ask the question. You asked about plans.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   20:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: buckeroo (#77)

You have been watching too many cartoons.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   20:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#76)

Here is one just for you,

Navy SEAL Says Prepare Your Blackout Kit [VIDEO]

http://patriotcaller.com/navy-seal-time-to-prepare-your-blackout-kit-video/

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   20:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Don (#78)

You asked about plans.

You don't have a plan at all other than suggesting some etheral, maejiick faerie from some distant, off-the-wall place in the Universe is going to save you because YOU "think" it is going to be that way. I guess, you it "Him."

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Don (#80)

I don't require your archaeic suggestion. But thanks for .... t-r-y-i-n-g. When you decide to become serious, just make a post on this thread.

Thanks in advance,

buck

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: buckeroo (#81)

It may not sound like a plan to you, but it is the only assured way of succeeding.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   21:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#82)

Wait a minute. Do you have a plan for when your lights go out and your freezing is defrosting? Are you sure your plan will work? Do you know how open to attack the U.S. Power grid is?

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   21:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Don (#84)

Yes. I have maintained a solar voltaic system at my primary residence for over six years. The system was designed by myself: it covers ALL requirements to fully keep the home electrically charged.

I also have backups beyond just that system. I have a natural gas to electrical unit to supply a mere 7K WATT/hrs. Even assuming that system blows out for some reason, I have a gasoline based to electrical generator for upto 7K WATT/hrs.

Nothing is perfect. But my family is prepared. How about you?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   21:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#85)

You don't have a wood stove and propane stoves. Oh yeah, we are ready.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   23:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Don (#86)

I have no need for a wood stove. Yes, I have several propane stoves however they were purchased for camping; they could be utilised for a disaster, however.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   11:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#87)

Billy Graham sounds alarm for 2nd Coming

Famed evangelist sees signs ‘converging now for the 1st time’

Published: 10/20/2013

Evangelist Billy Graham

By Troy Anderson

And last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., claimed the world has entered the last days.

“When you see up is down and right is wrong, when this is happening, we were told this: that these days would be as the days of Noah,” Bachmann said.

“I see a fuse being lit here, between what Billy Graham, Michele Bachman and Benjamin Netanyahu said, and I think there is going to be an explosion of interest in the end times like nothing we’ve ever seen before,” McGuire said.

“The dramatic and unprecedented planetary climate change is something on the level of the apocalyptic predictions of the Bible,” McGuire said. “We’re on the verge right now, because of climate change, of massive food and water shortages, which could affect tens of millions of people worldwide because of the droughts that have occurred. The intense heat and water shortages have dried up the crops, and we are going to see that play out in the near future because of all the freak weather.”

Blood moons

Against this apocalyptic backdrop, prominent faith leaders such as Graham, Greg Laurie, Cahn and John Hagee say they are witnessing an unparalleled acceleration in last-days signs that suggest the Second Coming is fast approaching.

Hagee, pastor of Cornerstone Church and author of the newly-released book “Four Blood Moons,” told his 22,000-member congregation recently that the appearance of four blood moons on Jewish holy days between April 2014 and October 2015 points to a “world-shaking event” that could signify the beginning of events leading up to the seven-year Great Tribulation.

God is using the heavens to announce things to come, says Pastor John Hagee.

“I believe that the heavens are God’s billboard – that he has been sending signals to planet Earth and we just haven’t been picking them up,” Hagee told his San Antonio, Texas, congregation. “Today, with the help of God’s word and some very astute scientists, I’m going to walk you through 500 years (of four blood moons on Jewish feast days) and show you how God is literally screaming at the world: ‘I am coming soon.’”

The phenomenon, a rare combination of lunar and solar eclipses, has only occurred a few times in the last 500 years – 1492, 1948 and 1967. It will happen again in 2014-15.

The previous dates correspond with the Jews’ expulsion from Spain and Christopher Columbus’ discovery of America (a sanctuary for the Jewish people), the creation of Israel, the Six-Day War and what Hagee and other Bible prophecy scholars believe could be the Middle East “War of Gog and Magog” predicted by the prophet Ezekiel 2,700 years ago. This war, according to Bible prophecy scholars, involves an attack on Israel by a coalition of nations led by Russia and Iran.

“I would not want to live in any other period,” he said.

“The Apocalypse (the unveiling of the end times) speaks powerfully of trouble ahead with storm warnings that carrying a booming jolt of truth. The warning is clear: prepare to meet thy God – followed by the voice of the gentle Shepherd – ‘Come.’”

A new world is coming, Graham wrote. The paradise that humanity lost in the Garden of Eden will be regained. Christ is coming to conquer evil and establish his perfect rule over all creation

“But until then God wants to give everyone an opportunity to know Christ through repentance and faith,” Graham wrote. “Regardless of what society says, we can’t go on much longer in the sea of immorality without judgment coming. We are at a crossroads, and there are profound moral issues at stake. It is time to return to biblical truth.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/billy-graham-sounds-alarm-for-2nd- coming/#9pDhrh4YwFupzggw.99

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   12:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: BorisY (#88)

God is using the heavens to announce things to come, says Pastor John Hagee.

“I believe that the heavens are God’s billboard – that he has been sending signals to planet Earth and we just haven’t been picking them up,” Hagee told his San Antonio, Texas, congregation. “Today, with the help of God’s word and some very astute scientists, I’m going to walk you through 500 years (of four blood moons on Jewish feast days) and show you how God is literally screaming at the world: ‘I am coming soon.’”

The phenomenon, a rare combination of lunar and solar eclipses, has only occurred a few times in the last 500 years – 1492, 1948 and 1967. It will happen again in 2014-15.

The previous dates correspond with the Jews’ expulsion from Spain and Christopher Columbus’ discovery of America (a sanctuary for the Jewish people), the creation of Israel, the Six-Day War and what Hagee and other Bible prophecy scholars believe could be the Middle East “War of Gog and Magog” predicted by the prophet Ezekiel 2,700 years ago. This war, according to Bible prophecy scholars, involves an attack on Israel by a coalition of nations led by Russia and Iran.

Is this the same idiot that encourages Israel to steal Palestinian lands thereby encouraging continuing conflict in the Mid East?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   12:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#89)

steal Palestinian lands

Jews who are antichrists are neocoms !

You should mud skip out of the slime you're in !

“But until then God wants to give everyone an opportunity to know Christ through repentance and faith,” Graham wrote. “Regardless of what society says, we can’t go on much longer in the sea of immorality without judgment coming. We are at a crossroads, and there are profound moral issues at stake. It is time to return to biblical truth.”

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   12:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: BorisY (#90)

It is time to return to biblical truth.

Oh those Jewish stories of begat, begat and begat? What the HELL is all that about? Here, I shall instruct you: it is nothing more than a series of Jewish faerie tales that were created after being kicked out of Babylon. The Jews ripped off all the Babylonian history and applied the newly learned documentation to themselves; it is called the Old Testament within the Christian faith.

And the faerie tales continued into christianity .... and here you are still spreading faerie tales.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   12:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo (#91) (Edited)

The Bible says ... to those who perish --- the Bible is foolishness !

God's foolishness is ... incomprehensible - WORTHLESS --- to the DYING - worldy wise !

Preparing for disaster - eternity ... the pyramids are monuments --- to pharohs - slavery - mummies !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   13:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: BorisY (#92)

The Bible says ... to those who perish --- the Bible is foolishness !

All the Bible was: a way of controlling the Jewish People. In fact, it only applicable to Jewish People because of their blood. Those poor sheep herders had nothing to do but invent their own traditions based on all other world civilizations and so, their own ignorant religion is solely based on their blood heritage and lineage through Abraham. That is all there is to the Bible.. The rest is just borrowed faebles and faerie tales.

You might as well tell me that you think Mother Goose's Nursery Rhymes are significant to you. It could be closer to any truth about your belief system.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   13:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeroo (#93)

Lost your ... mind - brain --- soul !

Sorry about that !

I'll ... hope - pray for mercy --- a miracle !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   13:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: BorisY (#94)

I'll ... hope - pray for mercy --- a miracle !

Nice method of being prepared that you personally chose there. Why not go out and enjoy a local circus or carnival as a Kloughn.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   13:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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