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Title: War Games
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Chick Publications
URL Source: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1090/1090_01.asp
Published: Jan 9, 2014
Author: Jack Chick
Post Date: 2014-01-09 16:31:15 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 45301
Comments: 75
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#1. To: redleghunter (#0)
Please explain the holiness of the "Holy Bible" or any other "Christian" document. Thank you in advance.
God is HOLY, HOLY, HOLY therefore God's Written Word is HOLY.
Who says "God's Word" is Holy?
You claim some sort of paper authority of and about Jesus Christ. You claim expertise of definitive answers about direct questions. You can not answer my simple question. Why is that?
God said it. He is the best one to know, since He is the center of righteousness and all other attributes of God. How do you know He isn't, or do you believe it?
Please explain how you know that "God said it." Don't you really mean to say, "you believe God said it"; please be precise within your communications skills without offering mere conjecture, speculation and other unsubstantiated ideas.
I know it because I know there is a God who is sovereign over His Universe. Anyone who has a relationship with God knows He exists. A child of Satan cannot believe because Satan has a blindfold over his eyes. I suppose you cannot understand this type of evidence, and I should be patient with you. Not only are you blind to God, but you are condemned and your eyes will be opened when you stand before God at His Judgement Seat. The best that any Christian can do for you is pray for you.
Don - you have used redundancy and restatement as a method to provide support for your argument; if you allow me to parse your statement, I shall explain "why" --- This partial sentence sets the foundation for your approach that you intend to establish --- Sets the framework for supporting data within the context of your earlier foundation; this substructure of the sentence is the declarative or refinement of the conjugative context --- Is a restatement of the earlier foundation by mere substitution of "it" with "there is a God"; this is redundant and nothing more than restatement with substitution. You have ineffectively added to anyone's understanding about supporting mechanisms for your presentation. But you don't stop at your own nonsupportive discussion, you struggle by attempting to clarify your brief definition of "God" --- This is an unfortunate structural attempt at limiting "God" in the context of "His Universe" because your struggle for clarification actually confuses any reader of your post, i.e. infers other universes; furthermore your point infers that your belief of a "Satan" as the master of his or its own Universe may bridge all of humanity with God's eternal war against Satan with humanity caught in the middle of of "good" vs. "evil" battle which is a dualistic principle that I earlier introduced to you. The obvious error with your attempt to explain or clarify God's role about the Universe is that you position God as far from being sovereign of or about humanity or the Universe since there is an interactive characteristic that reflects some sort of meaningful conflict between "His Universe" and some other Universe or even many other Universes; this means the conflict may have infinite relationships; which means God does not possess any more sovereignty about the world around us than anyone else, including yourself. In other words, if such conflict is true, you imply God is limited and therefore God does not possess the power that you profess. I find your first statement to be redundant and revealing of a contradictory nature. For the rest of your post, I shall ignore altogether as you don't have the knowledge that you profess to have; you may believe your knowledge but you can't explain your way out of a wet paper bag to use a borrowed and often overused cliché.
I may well repeat things when you don't seem to be "getting it." To show you again, I do believe that God is the boss in His Universe. " I know it" is a partial statement to you. There is a subject and a verb which makes a complete sentence. If you are referring to "it," there is sufficient information to allow understanding the sentence. What is your educational level? I ask since you want to teach me how to compose a sentence in the English language. I will forego reading or commenting on the rest of your post since your response is devoid of supporting your stand and is merely an attempt to impress me with your level of nonsense.
Donnie, Donnie, Donnie ... I understand your points; my issue is that you confuse your points to me and all the readership. So, lets parse your statement: What happened to the idea or the concept or the belief or the holy focus of an all powerful God being omnipotent and ever present in all things? Why do you limit the power of God by suggesting your above quote? Don't you see you have hampered your own opinion? This is what I question about you and you can not answer my question because you are so involved with using words words by your fellow trusted "Christian" compadres, you can not snap out of the mind meld. Spare the viewing audience your own blastphemy by intentionally limiting the power of God.
I will answer this post when you frame it in a manner showing some logic. Try it again.
Nope. As the thread title was created this is serious debate. And you do not understand that your "faith" about myths is killing any interest from political posters, but ..... I just checked this thread "hit counter" and WOW!
I understand that the Evolution vs. Creation debate last night drew millions of viewers. Are you sure that people are totally turned off by religion?
No. Most folks are seeking answers beyond myth, is all. They are tired of the rants in established churches of and about any faith. If there is a God, established man made churches of any faith are unnecessary for most. If you note, there is waning personal attendence across the spectrum of religion for most churches.
There is also waning belief in churches and increased weird beliefs in churches as well. That doesn't mean Biblical teaching is myth: It does possibly mean that we are in the last days as given in the Book of Revelation.
The Bible is filled with myths. What you have a problem with is simply explained as that a "myth" diminishes the concept of reality (the truth) but that is not the case. All a "myth" is: is a BIG STORY worth listening to because there are some life experiences from which some essential element can be learned. It is not necessarily substantiated by documented FACT or measurable data or objective proof much less any supporting/substantiated data. Watch this recent, popular video:
I don't see a video; however, I don't concur with your definition of a myth. Changing the meaning of words is a well-known trick of the left.
#63. To: Don (#60)
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Earlier, I was attempting to be brief and succinct. Let me help you out with an authoritative definition ... As with all religious symbolism, there is no attempt to justify mythic narratives or even to render them plausible. Every myth presents itself as an authoritative, factual account, no matter how much the narrated events are at variance with natural law or ordinary experience. By extension from this primary religious meaning, the word myth may also be used more loosely to refer to an ideological belief when that belief is the object of a quasi-religious faith; an example would be the Marxist eschatological myth of the withering away of the state. While the outline of myths from a past period or from a society other than one’s own can usually be seen quite clearly, to recognize the myths that are dominant in one’s own time and society is always difficult. This is hardly surprising, because a myth has its authority not by proving itself but by presenting itself. In this sense the authority of a myth indeed “goes without saying,” and the myth can be outlined in detail only when its authority is no longer unquestioned but has been rejected or overcome in some manner by another, more comprehensive myth. The word myth derives from the Greek mythos, which has a range of meanings from “word,” through “saying” and “story,” to “fiction”; the unquestioned validity of mythos can be contrasted with logos, the word whose validity or truth can be argued and demonstrated. Because myths narrate fantastic events with no attempt at proof, it is sometimes assumed that they are simply stories with no factual basis, and the word has become a synonym for falsehood or, at best, misconception. In the study of religion, however, it is important to distinguish between myths and stories that are merely untrue. The first part of this article discusses the nature, study, functions, cultural impact, and types of myth, taking into account the various approaches to the subject offered by modern branches of knowledge. In the second part, the specialized topic of the role of animals and plants in myth is examined in some detail. The mythologies of specific cultures are covered in the articles Greek religion, Roman religion, and Germanic religion.
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#2. To: buckeroo (#1)
#3. To: redleghunter (#2)
#27. To: redleghunter (#3)
Who says "God's Word" is Holy?
#29. To: buckeroo (#27)
#30. To: Don (#29)
God said it. He is the best one to know, since He is the center of righteousness and all other attributes of God.
#31. To: buckeroo (#30)
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#32. To: Don (#31)
I know it because I know there is a God who is sovereign over His Universe.
I know it
because
I know there is a God
who is sovereign over His Universe.
#33. To: buckeroo (#32)
#34. To: Don (#33)
I may well repeat things when you don't seem to be "getting it." To show you again, I do believe that God is the boss in His Universe.
I do believe that God is the boss in His Universe.
#38. To: buckeroo (#34)
#43. To: Don (#38)
I will answer this post when you frame it in a manner showing some logic. Try it again.
#51. To: buckeroo (#43)
#52. To: Don (#51)
#54. To: buckeroo (#52)
#55. To: Don (#54)
That doesn't mean Biblical teaching is myth ...
#60. To: buckeroo (#55)
Replies to Comment # 60. I don't concur with your definition of a myth. Changing the meaning of words is a well-known trick of the left.
myth a symbolic narrative, usually of unknown origin and at least partly traditional, that ostensibly relates actual events and that is especially associated with religious belief. It is distinguished from symbolic behaviour (cult, ritual) and symbolic places or objects (temples, icons). Myths are specific accounts of gods or superhuman beings involved in extraordinary events or circumstances in a time that is unspecified but which is understood as existing apart from ordinary human experience. The term mythology denotes both the study of myth and the body of myths belonging to a particular religious tradition.
Myths are largely cultural in origin and may be emulated by conquered societies. As for the myths presented in the Bible, they aren't of Jewish origin; many of the earliest are borrowed from the Babylonians which are known to be of Aryan origin. As you know the Jews were marched off to Babylon about 600 BCE [the exile]. That is just about the precise time of creation of the early Hebrew "Bible" called the Tanakh. After the wretched Jews were permitted to go back to their desert paradise (circa 570 BCE), they continued their practice of myth development. Of course, almost all the brighter Jews (at that time) refused to leave Babylon.
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