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Creationism/Evolution Title: Athiests can’t prove there is no God, they have to take it on faith It is impossible to disprove the existence of God. The only way you could do it is if you were omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, so that you could be absolutely sure that there isn’t a greater being out there able to hide their presence from you. Problem is, if you had those powers, you yourself would be God, and it would be a self-contradiction at that point to try and disprove your own existence. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 15. Your article is riddled with logical fallacies.
It is impossible to disprove the existence of God. The statement assumes that God exists without any supporting substance or objective proof. If, indeed God exists why would anyone attempt to disprove the existence, thereof? So answer the question, go outside and view a free standing tree. It exists and there is no question about its existence; if you have further question about the tree's existence, feel free to walk to towards it and ensure that the apparent appearance agrees with the inverse square law, so as you approach it, it appears larger from your earlier frame of reference. If you still have doubt, touch the tree. Taste the tree. Smell the tree. Do anything that adds to your supporting data to proove the tree exists. Feel free to cut the tree down and burn the tree to understand that the tree is contained within the Universe. The reasoning is simple for the exercise, we take for granted all things within sensory perception. Why? Our senses form the basis of how each and every individual views the world around us.
The only way you could do it [disprove the existence of God] is if you [or anybody] were omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, so that you [or anybody] could be absolutely sure that there isn’t a greater being out there able to hide their presence from you [or anybody]. The assumption is that God [an omnipotent being] would not perform the riddle in the first place. Yet, if God has all the power suggested [omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent] the assumption limits God power by a single method. That approach to a complex argument is self answering and as a result is another fallacy the author uses.
Problem is, if you had those powers, you yourself [or somebody] would be God, and it would be a self-contradiction at that point to try and disprove your own existence. The statement poses a problem and attempts to answer the same with a presumed correct solution. The solution has no substantiation of or about "self contradiction." The statement inherently contradicts all the assumptions of an omnipotent God, which as a limitless being, could choose "self contradiction" as a method to be. Stone, the real scope of your thread is very simple. All individuals in life as we know it on Earth are bounded by physical constraints and are limited in mental and personal, anatomical capabilities and capacities. If there is an omnipotent God, it is a mystery.
#15. To: buckeroo (#1) It isn't a mystery to those whom God has determined to belong to Him. God's children believe on the grounds of faith through the grace of God. Satan's children will not believe, nor will they receive the blessings of God except for the common blessings on earth.
Replies to Comment # 15. It isn't a mystery to those whom God has determined to belong to Him. Ahhh yes, I clearly see your perspective; in effect, your opinion has God placing piles of people on the planet through the beginning of time with a pre-determined set of non-deterministic individualized or self choices: some pre-selected as God's chosen people (as the Jews claim) and some true believers of Jesus Christ that somehow ascend to paradise or Heaven. Simultaneously, from your perspective all the rest of the human population that have existed through time are doomed to HELL. From my interpretation of your statement, there are some serious questions that I want to point out to you and any readers that find this subject of any interest.
Please respond to the above "cases" so I understand your belief system.
God's children believe on the grounds of faith through the grace of God. What does "grace of God" have to do with God's determination, as you pointed out earlier? Are you saying that God is compassionate about a human being so confused about the mission of Jesus Christ that God is willing to understand the individual case as pointed in all four generic cases presented above?
Satan's children will not believe, nor will they receive the blessings of God except for the common blessings on earth. I see your apparent perspective again. Your viewpoint is not adjusted by about two thousand years of Christian re-interpretation of the books that are valued by your particular Christian sect. And you intentionally neglect the Christian bloodbaths around the world spreading the good word that created the world's "dark ages" and later lead to rape, pillaging and outright murder in the name of Jesus Christ.
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