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Opinions/Editorials Title: Let Me Explain Why I Don’t Think The Zimmerman Case Is Merely A Distraction Those of you who think the Zimmerman case is a distraction are wrong. Dead wrong. It’s all a part of the plan, the agenda and has been so from day one. Obama knew, Holder knew, they all know there was no case. They knew that there wouldn’t be a conviction. That was all a part of their plan. Obama’s DoJ sends a bunch of rabble rousers to Sanford, Florida in March of 2012 to stoke the flames of a small local story in an attempt to stir up the useful idiots of the black community to take to the streets to demand that Zimmerman be arrested and tried for murder. There were no grounds for an arrest let alone a trial. The DoJ staged march’s, rally’s and townhall meetings to further the Obama agenda that America is a racist nation that would not even seek justice for the shooting of a poor little black baby boy by an evil, gun toting white man. (Who happened to be half Hispanic.) Then the pressure is on the DA and local police. When the Chief of police refuses to arrest Zimmerman what happens? The operatives of the Obama DoJ pressure the city to fire Bill Lee. They fold and they do just that. With a new police chief in place, and an Obama selected State Attorney to call for a special prosecutor the case then moves forward. All along they knew they had no case. They knew they would loose. They knew that Zimmerman would walk but that was OK. That didn’t matter; in fact that was what they wanted. Because if Zimmerman had been convicted how could they then tell the idiots that justice was not equal for a young black child? How could they advance the agenda of a racist America if it appeared that justice had prevailed and the evil white – Hispanic killer was going to jail? So when Zimmerman is acquitted this works perfectly into the hands of Obama and his Alinsky style followers. This way he can decry to the masses as he did Friday afternoon that the system just didn’t work. That it’s now legal to shoot young black babies in the streets of America. Oh I know he said “The jury has spoken and that is how our system works.” But what was he really saying? “The jury has spoken and that is how our system works. But maybe we need to change that system.” That is what he meant, and that’s what the useful idiots heard. Believe you me. So Friday Obama takes to the stage to further fan the flames of hatred and division in America by declaring that this was a case based solely on racial profiling and a racist system of justice. Not to mention the “stand your ground law” and CCW permit holders. I’m telling you that this is a very important story! Not a red herring to distract you away from the IRS, NSA or Benghazi scandals. No this case is equally as important as all of those. In fact this is just the latest in a LONG list of scandals involving Obama. The most dangerous man in America. (1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest So when Zimmerman is acquitted this works perfectly into the hands of Obama and his Alinsky style followers. This way he can decry to the masses as he did Friday afternoon that the system just didn’t work. That it’s now legal to shoot young black babies in the streets of America. You.
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0) With a new police chief in place, and an Obama selected State Attorney to call for a special prosecutor the case then moves forward. "Gov. Rick Scott appointed Angela B. Corey, state attorney for the Jacksonville area, as special prosecutor to head the state investigation of the Feb. 26 slaying of Trayvon Martin, 17, of South Florida." Tampa Bay Times, March 22, 2012. Republican Governor Rick Scott appointed Republican Angela Corry as Special Prosecutor. As a Republican, Corry was elected to the office of State Attorney for the 4th Judicial Circuit.
#3. To: nolu chan, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#2) (Edited) Republican Governor Rick Scott appointed Republican Angela Corry He's an ObamaBushbot anti-American globalist, like Boehner, McCain, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the real Republicans and Democrats. The D&R crime syndicate hates us because we're free. ![]() "We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul #4. To: nolu chan (#2) Republican Angela Corry Got ya. I thought she was a democrat. Thanks.
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited) This is all about the 2014 elections. Even Nate Sllver agrees that the GOP has a really good chance of gaining control of the Senate next year. The only thing that can prevent this is if blacks vote in record numbers, like they did in 2008 and 2012. What better way to get them to vote than to rile them up about alleged white racism? NSA SEARCH TAG: Tea Party, White House, Constitution, Obama, Allahu Akbar, Air Plane, Pressure Cooker, Ruby Ridge, Waco #6. To: jwpegler (#5) What better way to get them to vote than to rile them up about alleged white racism? While at the same time driving white women away? You know white women are racists don't ya?
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6) While at the same time driving white women away? You know white women are racists don't ya? As long as the "Life begins at erection" religious loons remain a powerful block in the GOP,white women are not leaving the Dim Party,period. They are mostly single-issue voters,and their single issue is having the option to have a abortion. Right now most think the fundie freaks in the GOP would ban all abortions and even the "morning after pill" if they could,and they are right. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) #8. To: nolu chan (#2) statelymcdanielmanor.word...7/19/who-is-angela-corey/ Who is Angela Corey and how did she get picked to prosecute George Zimmerman? The best information suggests that Corey was reliable, as in reliably overly-aggressive and unethical. Interestingly enough, Corey ran for her office as a republican and was appointed by republican governor Rick Scott and republican State Attorney General Pam Bondi. One might think that republicans would be less prone to the corruption that became so evident in the prosecution of George Zimmerman–and the continuing prosecution of Shellie Zimmerman–than Democrats. Unfortunately, it appears that Governor Scott and AG Bondi went wobbly on principle and the law in the onslaught of a DOJ sponsored racial firestorm. They needed George Zimmerman to be prosecuted and convicted regardless of the evidence, and Angela Corey–and her handpicked minions–were more than willing to ignore an almost complete lack of evidence in the pursuit of those needs. Ian Tuttle at National Review.com provides insight into Corey’s background and performance. The primary lesson? She’s vindictive and ruthless.
I’ve written about her bizarre attempt to get Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz fired for the crime of daring to criticize her terribly unprofessional and arguably illegal affidavit in the Zimmerman case. This was only one incident in a long line of unethical and thin-skinned attacks on anyone daring to criticize her official actions.
Among the things Dershowitz learned in the aftermath of Corey’s attempt to have him fired was that Corey is infamous in Florida for concealing evidence and overcharging. There is no question she grossly overcharged in the Zimmerman case, in fact, there was virtually no evidence to support any charge, as the jury understood. And I’ve catalogued serial abuses of discovery, including one brought to light by former Corey IT director Ben Kruidbos. In Update 31, I noted Bernie di la Rionda taking Kruidbos to task for not feeling comfortable having a heart to heart chat with Angela Corey about his fears that di la Rionda was illegally withholding evidence from the defense. Kruidbos had more than solid grounds for not trusting Corey–or di la Rionda, for that matter–Corey fired him shortly after the case was given to the jury. Tuttle writes:
Tuttle obviously thinks little of Corey’s ethics:
Di la Rionda, Mantei and Guy would seem to be confirmation of this. Thomas Lifson at The American Thinker notes that Kruidbos is not taking his termination lying down:
But surely Angela Corey is a great defender of blacks? Not so much, as Lifson explains:
Redstate.com provides the statistics for Florida:
Corey pursued George Zimmerman with single-minded zeal. But obviously, she is no champion of what the NAACP and other race-baiting organizations and individuals see as black rights issues. In fact, her judicial district, the 4th, is a majority white district. Redstate offers a possible explanation:
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited) Boy, she's a real piece of work.
Maybe we should send Buford T. Justice over to Florida to "Barbecue her ass in Molasses", I'd bet a lot of residents there would approve.
BTW you should post the American Thinker article just to watch ming go ballistic about Jews. "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." #10. To: A K A Stone (#8) Great post, very informative and dovetails nicely with all the other hypocrisy the Zimmerman murder case represents.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#1) (Edited) You.
I think I will reply in lucy's place and get your guys's dainty little panties in a wad.
All they had to do was investigate the incident just like they would if a husband shot a wife and let the chips fall where they will. What are you guys so scared of?
BTW I don't ping her because she says she refuses to come here anyway. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #12. To: A K A Stone (#6) While at the same time driving white women away? You know white women are racists don't ya? Affirmative Action was written originally to benefit "white women" in our quest for access to the workplace. I don't think we are leaving anytime soon. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #13. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited) While at the same time driving white women away? Why do you think that this will drive "white women" away? A majority of married white women vote for the GOP. It's single white women who overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. The government has spent the last 50 years replacing husbands and fathers with government programs. How does this drive single white women away from big government Democrat programs??? It doesn't. NSA SEARCH TAG: Tea Party, White House, Constitution, Obama, Allahu Akbar, Air Plane, Pressure Cooker, Ruby Ridge, Waco #14. To: jwpegler (#13) Why do you think that this will drive "white women" away? Because they see lots of blacks acting stupid. Then Obama siding with the stupid blacks. Some of them have enough sense to know Zimmerman is innocent. Maybe many of them. I'm not saying any certain number. But some will.
#15. To: mininggold (#12) (Edited) I don't think we are leaving anytime soon. Hillary, Napalatano, and Suzanne De Barr all quit their jobs when the going got tough. No woman ever grew a pair due to affirmative action. ICE Chief of Staff Suzanne Barr resigns due to sex harassment allegations![]() Suzanne De Barr Dyke The D&R crime family hates us because we're free![]() "We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul #16. To: hondo68 (#15) Hillary, Napalatano, and Suzanne De Barr all quit their jobs when the going got tough. Life must be tough if you have to offer guys free BJs just to get a second glance or the time of day from them. LOL... "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." #17. To: A K A Stone (#8)
Angela Corey–and her handpicked minions–were more than willing to ignore an almost complete lack of evidence in the pursuit of those needs. This goes a bit far claiming a near complete lack of evidence. There was overwhelming evidence that Zimmerman committed all the elements of manslaughter. The only question in the case concerned the evidence to support or disprove the Zimmerman claim of self defense. At the time charges were brought, the self defense claim depended almost wholly on the assertions of Zimmerman.
There is no question she grossly overcharged in the Zimmerman case, in fact, there was virtually no evidence to support any charge, as the jury understood. This is utterly false. There was iron clad proof of the elements of voluntary manslaughter. The only issue was the Zimmerman claim of self defense.
But surely Angela Corey is a great defender of blacks? I doubt Governor Scott appointed her because of any purported defense of blacks. Governor Scott desired to ensure there was no possible appearance of state failure to vigorously prosecute the case. For the purpose of saving himself from a potential political headache, Corey was a good choice. I'm not a big fan of the prosecution in this case but it did well serve the political goals of Governor Scott.
#18. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited) Because they see lots of blacks acting stupid. So, why do they care? Today, young women are more educated than young men. They also tend to have better careers than men. This is not only true in America, but also in Europe and Japan as well. Young women aren't looking for husbands and providers. They are looking for boy toys -- the dumber the better. If they can f*ck like an animal, they are golden. It's the way the world works today. Nothing about the Zimmerman / Martin circus will repel young women away from the Democrat Party. NSA SEARCH TAG: Tea Party, White House, Constitution, Obama, Allahu Akbar, Air Plane, Pressure Cooker, Ruby Ridge, Waco #19. To: nolu chan (#17) This is utterly false. There was iron clad proof of the elements of voluntary manslaughter. The only issue was the Zimmerman claim of self defense. The prosecution should be shot. They knew it was self defense. They had the evidence of self defense. They lied. They withheld evidence. The jury concurs.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#8)
One might think that republicans would be less prone to the corruption that became so evident in the prosecution of George Zimmerman–and the continuing prosecution of Shellie Zimmerman–than Democrats. I don't seen any reason to believe that one party any sort of monopoly on corruption. They both seem quite proficient at it. It may be what they do best. As for Shellie Zimmerman, no reason is given to claim prosecutorial corruption by continuing her perjury case. Case facts are neither related nor disputed. Orlando Sentinel, February 19, 2013, excerpt:
According to prosecutors, Shellie Zimmerman lied at her husband's April 20 bond hearing when she testified that the couple had no money. Shellie Zimmerman Has No Defense to the Perjury Charge
Wednesday, February 20, 2013
#21. To: nolu chan (#20) According to prosecutors, Shellie Zimmerman lied at her husband's April 20 bond hearing when she testified that the couple had no money. I believe she said she had no income. There is a difference between income and money that you have.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#19) They knew it was self defense. They had the evidence of self defense. To what evidence do you refer, other than the claims of George Zimmerman? The evidence must show that Zimmerman, at the time of the shooting, held a reasonable belief that he faced imminent death or serious bodily injury. It concerns Zimmerman's state of mind, whether he held a belief and whether that belief was reasonable. None of the eyewitnesses saw the moment of shooting. The testimony of Dr. Vincent DiMaio did not yet exist at the time of charging.
#23. To: nolu chan (#22) To what evidence do you refer, other than the claims of George Zimmerman? His claims matched all of the evidence. He was guilty until proven innocent. The prosecution is guilty of proprietorial misconduct. They should be tried and hung.
#24. To: nolu chan (#22) The prosecutions witnesses made the defenses case. They had no evidence zero nada. Can you name one piece of evidence that contradicted Zimmerman's claims? Child Abuse? What the fuck was that all about?
#25. To: A K A Stone (#21) I believe she said she had no income. There is a difference between income and money that you have. 67K appears to be an asset. She was giving sworn statements to support a motion to declare George Zimmerman indigent, unable to pay bail. Here is the relevant part of the transcript again, with the followup question and answer added. The family was having discussion to scrape up anything they possibly could. Possibly they could have scraped up $67K of donated funds that Shellie was playing a shell game with. Her story may have a problem in court.
O'MARA: I discussed with you the pending motion to have your husband, George, declared indigent for cost, have I not?
#26. To: A K A Stone (#23)
[nc] To what evidence do you refer, other than the claims of George Zimmerman? What evidence? You still have not identified it. The self defense claim is posited on the state of mind of George Zimmerman at the moment of shooting. What evidence of Zimmerman's state of mind existed at the time of charging? His story was full of doubtful claims about other things. Had the jury found the credibility of Zimmerman lacking to a sufficient extent to disregard all of his assertions, it may have found against his claim of self defense.
#27. To: nolu chan (#26) What evidence? You still have not identified it. He said he was beat up. He had injuries to back it up. He said he dropped his flash light. They found it where he said it was. He said he was yelling for help. S Several people heard him. He called the police ahead of time as someone on the neighborhood watch would. He said he was on his back. The injuries are to the back of his head and his back was wet. Trayvons knees were wet. The bullet was at close range. You don't walk up on someone with a gun you want to be further away so you can get good shot and not worry about being grabbed, stopped or whatever. He cooperated with the police fully without a lawyer. They had to fire the original police chief because he wouldn't go along with their bullshit. They withheld evidence and fired the guy who exposed them. It was prosecutorial misconduct and the prosecution should be shot. After a trial for attempted kidnapping. With 6 people on the jury that Zimmerman gets to pick after reading their NSA info. The list goes on and on. They are corrupt.
#28. To: nolu chan (#26) They tried and are trying to get Zimmerman murdered. The prosecution should be locked up. The charges should be attempted murder, perjury, attempted kidnapping and much more. www.sodahead.com/united-s...32501&link=ibaf&q=&esrc=s Zimmerman Prosecutor Blatantly Lies During Closing Arguments. The state has no other option but to lie . True or False Zimmerman Prosecutor Blatantly Lies During Closing Arguments. The state has no other option but to lie . True or False by CAPISCE Posted July 11, 2013 Related Topics: Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, Trial, Police, Guilty, Sat, Facts +10 Rave 10 Share Embed 57 votes Read all 116 opinions Lightning Report View Results and Demographics TRUE, they have no evidence....Zimmerman is not guilty TRUE, they have no evidence....Zimmerman is not guilty False---they didn't need to lie False---they didn't need to lie You! Join the discussion. Share your opinion with millions! Gretawire: This is important because this case is largely about credibility: is George Zimmerman a liar or not? Trayvon Martin can’t testify so the focus is on the credibility of the defendant. In the closing argument today the prosecutor called George Zimmerman a liar about a statement at the police station and the prosecutor was just plain wrong. Zimmerman did not lie about it. The prosecutor exaggerated or mislead the jury (intentionally or inadvertently.) The prosecutor told the jury that Zimmerman lied when he acted surprised that night, at the police station, when Officer Singleton told Zimmerman that Trayvon Martin died because, per the prosecutor, Zimmerman already knew Martin was dead. The prosecutor – at about 2:40 pm in his closing – falsely or incorrectly told the jury that Zimmerman told neighbor Manalo at the scene that he killed Martin. In other words, that Zimmerman was a liar to Officer Singleton and trying to cover his tracks. Below is what Zimmerman told Manalo per Manalo — that he “shot” someone. He did not say “killed.” The prosecutor – at about 2:40 pm in his closing – falsely or incorrectly told the jury that Zimmerman told neighbor Manalo at the scene that he killed Martin. In other words, that Zimmerman was a liar to Officer Singleton and trying to cover his tracks.
#29. To: A K A Stone (#24) They had no evidence zero nada. Florida Stat 782.07(1)
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. There was proof that George Zimmerman killed another human being by the act of shooting his gun while aiming it at Trayvon Martin's chest. I was unaware that the defense even tried to deny it. There was a dead body. There was the weapon used in the killing on the person of George Zimmerman, registered to George Zimmerman. That is not zero, nada. The only thing remaining is the question of lawful justification, claimed by George Zimmerman as self defense. The prosecution did not find Zimmerman credible on the question of whether he had fear which was reasonable, of loss of life or serious bodily injury. Initially, two jurors found manslaughter and one found murder two. The others apparently persuaded them that proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman had not acted out of self defense was lacking, requiring a finding of lawful justification. This provides a useful defense for gang bangers. I feared that if I didn't shoot him, he would shoot me. It is a reasonable belief and legalizes gang banger shootings.
#30. To: nolu chan (#29) 1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. They need to go to planned parenthood. They will find them in the act. They should send the swat team with guns drawn. If the butcher has his hands on a cutting instrument. He should be shot dead. It is the police's job. Why aren't they doing it? Oh back to Zimmerman. The evidence was self defense. Zimmerman had no bruises on his hands. The prosecution had that evidence too. They ignored it and prosecuted an obviously innocent man. Because abortion candidate Al Sharpton opened his mouth and everone smelled his bad breath.
#31. To: nolu chan (#29) The prosecution did not find Zimmerman credible on the question of whether he had fear which was reasonable, They knew his story was credible. The jury concurred. They had the same evidence. My kids are smarter then they are. We need some hemp rope.
#32. To: nolu chan (#29) Initially, two jurors found manslaughter and one found murder two. Which is why the proseuction never should have brought the casse. They could charege everyone with some crime that isn't a crime and they will convice 25 percent or more automatically. They over reached and if it was a just world they should swing from rope or receive the sentence they tried to get Zimmerman to serve.
#33. To: A K A Stone (#30) The evidence was self defense. Self defense is not evidence. It is a claim to be proved or disproved.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#31) They knew his story was credible. The jury concurred. They most certainly did not know his story was credible. His conflicting and incredible claims canot be shown to have been believed by the prosecutors. As for the jurors, five of them have said nothing more than "not guilty," except four of them released a statement through the court disclaiming any agreement with the statements of juror B37. Until they speak, if they speak, we cannot know what they agreed to beyond the failure of the prosecution to disprove the claim of self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. The criminal jury decides on the presence or absence of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)
[nc] Initially, two jurors found manslaughter and one found murder two. The prosecution must convince 100% to obtain a conviction. If any juror does not find guilt, the jury cannot return a guilty verdict (except in military trials). There was enough information to let a jury decide. Re B37, here is an interesting comment of said juror:
COOPER: "So, when he testified that George Zimmerman to be, more or less, overall thruthful, did that make an impression on you?" The testimony that B37 says made a BIG impression on her was stricken from the record and the jury was instructed to disregard it.
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#36. To: nolu chan (#33) Self defense is not evidence. It is a claim to be proved or disproved. The evidence overwhelmingly supported self defense and it matched up with Zimmermans unwavering and unchanging descriptions of the vents that night. It is not a claim to be proved. You are innocent until proven guilty silly. Is that where your thinking is?
#37. To: nolu chan (#34) They most certainly did not know his story was credible. His conflicting and incredible You are still yet to document one inconsistency, conflict or change in what Zimmerman said. Why are you spinning Nolu?
#38. To: nolu chan (#34) except four of them released a statement through the court disclaiming any agreement with the statements of juror B37. Nonsense. The jurors just said she didn't speak for them. Juror B37 said as much. Irrelevant.
#39. To: nolu chan (#35) In this whole conversation you haven't been able to show me one piece of evidence of Zimmerman's guilt. You tried to make Zimmerman prove his innocence. That is the bottom line indisputable conclusion drawn from your remarks on this thread.
#40. To: nolu chan (#35)
Are you going to watch this? Robin would pee her pants if this was posted at her site. She doesn't like the truth.
#41. To: nolu chan (#35) Why didn't the prosecution let in information about the "Lean". The burglary tools that were found on Trayvon and his computer. Because they are corrupt pieces of shit. Why are you spinning for them? Because they didn't want the truth they wanted to lynch Zimmerman.
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