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Title: So What If Trayvon Martin Killed Zimmerman (warning extremely graphic images contained in thread)
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Published: Jul 15, 2013
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2013-07-15 00:33:13 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 56
What if the Trayvon Martin had a different ending.
What if Trayvon Martin was going to the store one day. He was going to get some skittles and something to drink. He got some skittles and some Arizona fruit punch. He was walking home and he saw this guy following him. The guy followed him into the dark. Trayvon got scared. Thought a crazy ass cracker was stalking him. So he ran into the dark to hide and watch. The guy was still there walking around. Trayvon fearing for his life attacks Zimmerman and kills him. Zimmerman is found with a gun. If those of us who support the verdict are consistent. Would we have to say Trayvon would have been not guilty as well? I have a bit of mixed feelings on this.
Put it this way. Say Clint Eastwood was going to get something to eat one day. He saw some Mexican looking guy following him. He leads the man following him into the dark then runs and disappears. He then attacks and kills the man following him. Would you cheer?
I know Trayvon isn't Clint Eastwood. Just something to think about.
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#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Maybe Clint only wanted to know if there was a decent mexican diner in the area and the spic took offense? Then what? Ever been punched in the nose, Stone? I have. It stuns you. You literally see stars. GZ didn't know his assailant was 17. All he knew was that he was in a vulnerable position and getting his head beat in. The boy should have kept his hands to himself and gone home.
I agree with you. Also I've been punched in the nose and i've punched in the nose. I've won more fights then i've lost by a lot. I don't start fights.
[A K A Stone] I've been punched in the nose and i've punched in the nose. Perhaps one of you can explain a point about the Trayvon Martin case evidence. Accept as true that Trayvon bopped Zimmerman in the nose and that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose. Accept that the broken nose bled profusely. Accept that Zimmerman was on his back so gravity took the blood up his nose and he was choking on it and swallowing it. Accept that by some unexplained means, Zimmerman reached his gun, unholstered it, aimed and fired it, killing Trayvon Martin. Accept that Zimmerman climbed on top of Trayvon and spread out Martin's arms, not realizing Martin was dead or dying, as claimed by Zimmerman. When Zimmerman climbed on top of Trayvon with a snootful of blood, why did he not spray or pour blood all over the front of himself and down on Trayvon Martin? I have never heard anyone address this point.
Did you see the picture of dead Trayvon Martin? On the ground with his shoes with no socks on? From the scene. He didn't seem to have much blood on him. I used to watch Dexter but a blood splatter expert I am not.
Your ignorance is cracking me up right now.
Do you see much blood on Trayvon?
I invite you to follow a line of questioning not pursued at trial, indeed, I have not heard it pursued at all. Perhaps my cousin Vinny can ask a question for you to consider. Following Zimmerman statements and assertions, assume the following to be the gospel truth: TM bopped Z in the nose. Z suffered a broken nose which bled profusely, as broken noses tend to do. Z fell to the ground and TM gained the "mounted" position. This was above the hips, in the belly button area. After some sliding about, TM's knees approached Z's armpits. TM put his hands over Z's nose and mouth. As Z was on his back, the profuse flow of blood followed gravity and flowed up Z's nose. Z was choking on, and swallowing, the blood. This accounts for the scarcity of blood on Z and TM. Z somehow (not important) reached his weapon, unholstered it, aimed it, and shot TM with the gun in contact with TM's shirt and from 2 to 4 inches from TM's body. The hollow point bullet fragmented, striking TM's heart and lung. It caused very severe internal bleeding resulting in rapid loss of blood pressure and very little external bleeding from the chest wound. Z did not immediately realize that TM was dead or dying, or even seriously wounded. To ensure his own safely, Z climbed on top of TM and spread out his arms on the ground. [Vincent Laguardia Gambini] So, the defendant was bleeding profusely up his nose. He had a snootful of blood. Where did the snootful of blood go when Z reversed position and climbed on top of TM? Were the laws of physics suspended in Sanford? Does gravity work differently in Z's gated community? It's not all over the front of Z and none appears to have landed on TM.
When I read stuff like this I've got to wonder whether the liberal ass-hat who wrote it would like a practical demonstration. We'll measure how much blood spurts out of his nose after I punch him, determine what role 'gravity' plays in how it spatters, etc etc. In other news it was raining that night in Sanford and Trayvon Martin was laid out uncovered for almost 30 minutes. Furthermore, as pointed out by the defense expert, Martin's wound seems to have been cleaned up some between the scene and the autopsy table. Couple this with the wet clothes being bagged in plastic and the expectation for useful analysis decreases precipitously.
The photograph of Trayvon Martin fails to show the gusher of blood that descended upon him, whether it was such to be useful for analysis or not. Later, its presence could not even be detected by chemical analysis. The blanket that was used to cover Trayvon's body was not recorded into evidence and the donut munchers purportedly do not know what happened to it. Cleaning up the wounds of Zimmerman is irrelevant. His clothes were photographed while the small lacerations were uncleaned, and the potentially deadly bloody nose was still bloody. They did not find much blood anywhere. The detectives who detected did not detect blood on Trayvon, the concrete, or the ground. They detected droplets of blood on the clothes of Zimmerman. This blood not only degraded beyond providing a DNA match (except for droplets on Zimmerman's clothes matched to Zimmerman), it degraded to invisibility and non-detectability by chemical tests.
I suggest watching the testimony of the defense expert Dr. De Maio for information about the proper handling of blood evidence, gun shot wounds, and general standard autopsy techniques. If that doesn't convince you that the absence of evidence of a "gusher of blood" is irrelevant let me know.
It is apparent you cannot explain how no blood got on Trayvon. Moreover,when questioned about Trayvon Martin putting his hands over Zimmerman's mouth and nose with all that blood, in answer to the question of what he would expect to find on Travon Martin's hands, Dr. DiMaio responded "blood." None could be detected. Apparently, the blood that was was choking Zimmerman, and which he was swallowing, turned on and off in some mysterious fashion.
argumentum ad ignorantiam
Typical content free response.
No just beyond your reasoning ability, as apparently are most of John Locke's observations.
Go munch a donut.
Lol..not a fan of John Locke huh? Carry on libtard.
#46. To: Thunderbird (#41)
I cannot dispute that saying the name of the father of classical liberalism is evidence of what happened when George Zimmerman and Trayvon encountered each other. Bravo! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke
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#4. To: Logsplitter (#3)
Ever been punched in the nose, Stone? I have. It stuns you. You literally see stars. GZ didn't know his assailant was 17. All he knew was that he was in a vulnerable position and getting his head beat in. The boy should have kept his hands to himself and gone home.
#7. To: A K A Stone, Logsplitter (#4)
[Logsplitter] Ever been punched in the nose, Stone? I have. It stuns you. You literally see stars.
#8. To: nolu chan (#7)
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)
I used to watch Dexter but a blood splatter expert I am not.
#10. To: Fred Mertz, nolu chan (#9)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Z encountered TM.
#17. To: nolu chan (#12)
[Vincent Laguardia Gambini] So, the defendant was bleeding profusely up his nose. He had a snootful of blood. Where did the snootful of blood go when Z reversed position and climbed on top of TM? Were the laws of physics suspended in Sanford? Does gravity work differently in Z's gated community?
#20. To: Thunderbird (#17)
In other news it was raining that night in Sanford and Trayvon Martin was laid out uncovered for almost 30 minutes. Furthermore, as pointed out by the defense expert, Martin's wound seems to have been cleaned up some between the scene and the autopsy table. Couple this with the wet clothes being bagged in plastic and the expectation for useful analysis decreases precipitously.
#22. To: nolu chan (#20)
#23. To: Thunderbird (#22)
If that doesn't convince you that the absence of evidence of a "gusher of blood" is irrelevant let me know.
#25. To: nolu chan (#23)
It is apparent you cannot explain how no blood got on Trayvon.
#30. To: Thunderbird (#25)
argumentum ad ignorantiam
#33. To: nolu chan (#30)
Typical content free response
#35. To: Thunderbird (#33)
No just beyond your reasoning ability, as apparently are most of John Locke's observations.
#41. To: nolu chan (#35)
Go munch a donut.
Replies to Comment # 41. Lol..not a fan of John Locke huh?
John Locke (29 August 1632 – 28 October 1704), widely known as the Father of Classical Liberalism, was an English philosopher and physician regarded as one of the most influential of Enlightenment thinkers. Considered one of the first of the British empiricists, following the tradition of Francis Bacon, he is equally important to social contract theory. His work had a great impact upon the development of epistemology and political philosophy.
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