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Title: Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle
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Published: Mar 19, 2013
Author: starnes
Post Date: 2013-03-19 20:32:04 by calcon
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New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.
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“Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”
Moore was not arrested or charged. This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.
This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.
A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told Fox News they could not confirm or deny an investigation or raid had taken place due to government regulations.
“The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.”
Moore, of Carneys Point, is a certified firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, an NRA range safety officer and a New Jersey hunter education instructor.
He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.
“If you look at the picture, his finger isn’t even on the trigger – which is proper,” Nappen told Fox News. “If half of Hollywood could follow that rule we’d be thankful.”
Brown said their role is not to go out and search Facebook for photos of children holding weapons.
“In general our role is to investigate allegations of child abuse and neglect,” she said.
The family’s trouble started Saturday night when Moore received an urgent text message from his wife. The Carneys Point Police Dept. and the New Jersey Dept. of Children and Families had raided their home.
Moore immediately called Nappen and rushed home to find officers demanding to check his guns and his gun safe.
Instead, he handed the cell phone to one of the officers – so they could speak with Nappen.
“If you have a warrant, you’re coming in,” Nappen told the officers. “If you don’t, then you’re not. That’s what privacy is all about.”
With his attorney on speaker phone, Moore instructed the officers to leave his home.
“I was told I was being unreasonable and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn’t open my safe,” Moore wrote on the Delaware Open Carry website. “They told me they were going to get a search warrant. I told them to go ahead.” Moore took this photo of police outside his home.
Moore took this photo of police outside his home.
Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.
“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”
The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.
“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”
Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”
“In many cases we may follow up on something and we don’t find any problems and the case is closed,” she said.
But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.
“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.
Nappen said what happened to the Moore family should serve as a warning to gun owners across the nation.
“To make someone go through this because he posted a picture of his son with a .22 rifle on his Facebook page is pretty outrageous,” he said. “Does that mean that anyone who posts a picture like that has to consent to a home inspection and a gun inspection? I don’t think so.”
Nappen said they are considering taking legal action against the state for the late night raid.
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Whenever you deal with a cop, other then a speeding ticket, talk to your lawyer first. They're by and large useless f**ks out to screw you, so never trust the bastards.
#2. To: calcon (#1)
Whenever you deal with a cop, other then a speeding ticket, talk to your lawyer first. They're by and large useless f**ks out to screw you, so never trust the bastards.
Yep, I prefer eleven year olds in camo running around the neighborhood with loaded 22s.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#3. To: mininggold (#2)
yep, I prefer eleven year olds in camo running around the neighborhood with loaded 22s.
oh gee, you libs just can't get over your nonsense. hell, i was ten when i got my first 22, lived in texas and we all had 22's and took them out 2-3 times a week. nothing or anyone ever hurt or damaged.
you libs need to get over your "PUSSYing" of american children.
#4. To: calcon (#3)
oh gee, you libs just can't get over your nonsense. hell, i was ten when i got my first 22, lived in texas and we all had 22's and took them out 2-3 times a week. nothing or anyone ever hurt or damaged.
you libs need to get over your "PUSSYing" of american children.
Things were different back in the forties. But chances are your 22 was really a BB or pellet gun.
It's okay for your average eleven year old to run around playing GI Joe complete with camo and rifle loaded with live 22 ammo? Yeah right! You guys need to show some sense.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#5. To: mininggold (#4)
I would have to agree with you on the 'killer commando combat' look of the rifle given this child. Clearly the best rifle he cold of gotten was a more conventional wooden stock 22 cal. rifle. I see no reason to glorify a rifle like this into the realm of pretend as if it was a toy.
#6. To: mininggold (#4)
Things were different back in the forties. But chances are your 22 was really a BB or pellet gun.It's okay for your average eleven year old to run around playing GI Joe complete with camo and rifle loaded with live 22 ammo? Yeah right! You guys need to show some sense.
nope, you missed the texas part, i obviously know the difference between a 22 and a bb/pellet gun.
btw, the average 11 year old runs around with an air soft rifle/handgun, they are exact duplicates of military rifles, size weight etc. the only difference is that they shoot plastic bb's rather then bullets.
good training material for our youth
#7. To: calcon (#6)
good training material for our youth
So they can die valiantly for big oil in future foreign wars.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#8. To: Ferret Mike (#5) (Edited)
I would have to agree with you on the 'killer commando combat' look of the rifle given this child. Clearly the best rifle he cold of gotten was a more conventional wooden stock 22 cal. rifle. I see no reason to glorify a rifle like this into the realm of pretend as if it was a toy.
His NRA instructor daddy can finally feel proud when he dresses his kid up like a doll.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#9. To: mininggold (#8)
His NRA instructor daddy can finally feel proud when he dresses his kid up like a doll.
His father should be proud of the way his son poses alertly while properly holding his rifle.
I'm also quite sure his son dresses himself despite your creepy attempt to suggest otherwise.
#10. To: Thunderbird (#9) (Edited)
His father should be proud of the way his son poses alertly while properly holding his rifle.I'm also quite sure his son dresses himself despite your creepy attempt to suggest otherwise.
Who buys his duds and posed him for the camera like a junior GI Joe, stupid?
You guys should start a pageant circuit for your little boy soldier dolls to compete in. The criteria for judging could be..... the one who looks the most likely to kill the most of whatever you are hating at the moment.
Yep he will make a great pawn fighting in your game.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#11. To: calcon (#6)
btw, the average 11 year old runs around with an air soft rifle/handgun, they are exact duplicates of military rifles, size weight etc. the only difference is that they shoot plastic bb's rather then bullets.
Funny, but I have lots of inlaws born and bred in mainly in the west Texas area. Not one even admits to owning a rifle or a pistol. At the last reunion, the topic of guns was hardly even brought up except for one son in law who had an ex wife who had recently used one to kill herself. One of his concerns was she had the couple's two children living with her when she did it and she loved guns.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
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