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Title: Anonymous Calls for Civil War to Overthrow the US Government
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URL Source: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01 ... s-for-war-to-overthrow-us.html
Published: Jan 24, 2013
Author: ActivistPost
Post Date: 2013-01-24 17:52:52 by Capitalist Eric
Keywords: None
Views: 51500
Comments: 81

In the latest video from Anonymous, they have called for the most aggressive action yet. They're asking the American people to join them in a "call to arms" for the destruction and overthrow of the US Government.

In the statement, Anonymous says the government is calling them "terrorists" because they truly fear a people's uprising.

"The United States Government insists on labeling us as terrorists. The question is, "who do we terrorize?" Is it probable that the United States government is truly afraid of we, the people?"

They are not calling for denial of service attacks on government websites or protests as is their normal modus operandi, but for freedom activists to join them in full-blown war to overthrow the US Government and return it to the control of the people.

"We are not calling upon the collective to deface or use a distributed denial of service attack on a United States government agency website, or affiliate. We are not calling upon the people to once again occupy a city or protest in front of a local building, This has not brought on us any legislative change or alternate law. It has only brought us bloodshed and false criticism. For the last 12 years, voting has been useless. Corporations and lobbyists are the true leaders of this country and are the ones with the power to control our lives, To rebuild our government, we must first destroy it.Our time for democracy is here, Our time for resolution is here, This is America's time for revolution, To restore our constitutional rights, to once again, be free therefore, Anonymous along with the American people have decided to openly declare war on the United States government. This is a call to arms."

The hacktivist collective lists a long train of abuses that can no longer be allowed:

We refuse to be a police state.

We refuse to be brutalized and dehumanized by the very people our tax dollars fund to protect our cities and streets.

We will not allow the government to control our destiny, our right to build a life for ourselves.

We demand freedom from government control, taxation, repossession and death. You will not come to our doors and take our guns, our property, you will not force the citizens of this great country to participate in the unlawful act of government mandated healthcare. We the people refuse to put in your control our health, our bodies, our minds, our lives.

We will not grant permission for the government to deploy drones over our homes and communities.

We must end the federal reserve. A private central bank should not issue our currency, set interest rates and run our economy. Rather, we need to return control over the currency to the American people where it belongs. They claim that all peaceful attempts to affect change within the system have failed and the time for action is now.

"Our peaceful actions, patience and restraint have been demonstrated as we watched and waited for our Congress and Representatives to speak for the American citizens and protect us from the tyrant that sits in the oval office and happily strips the American people of our rights, one by one, executive order by executive order. We have waited long enough."

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#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#0) (Edited)

Here is why this will never happen:

1.) The people who are angry at the government are responsible people with jobs, wives, children, and mortgages. They are not going to risk what they have in a futile attempt to take up arms against the government.

2.) Various federal police entities heavily target serious dissident groups in the country. Go to any meeting of serious dissidents and 1/3rd of the people are likely FBI and/or ATF agents. Often times the biggest agitators in these groups are federal cops trying to entrap people. Anyone seriously talking revolution will quickly wind up arrested and in jail.

3.) The government's monopoly school system is raising generations of idiots who have no clue about what's really wrong in the country.

The ONLY way that any kind of serious armed rebellion could possibly get started is if we wind up with a Weimar Republic style inflation that wipes everyone out. But, given #3 it's just as likely that the vast majority of idiots in the country will listen to leftist demagogues and turn to politicians to save them from the evil "rich". The end result of any calamity is likely to be MORE government control, not less.

If you truly want to protect yourself against the growing tyranny in the U.S., you need to have enough money to park offshore (preferably in multiple countries) and enough money to qualify for permanent residence or citizenship in another country, like Costa Rica, Panama, etc. where you can escape if push comes to shove.

Some of these countries have pretty low bars on what assets you need to live there. Some require that you open a business that employs locals. Others require you to deposit and keep a few tens of thousands of dollars one of their banks. Others just require that you can prove a few hundred dollars a month in annuity income from investments or a pension. Others require that you pay a one time fee of tens of thousands of dollars.

If you don't have the means to do this, you are going to be screwed like everyone else.

jwpegler  posted on  2013-01-24   20:45:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#2)

Here is why this will never happen:

1.) The people who are angry at the government are responsible people with jobs, wives, children, and mortgages. They are not going to risk what they have in a futile attempt to take up arms against the government.

OK, I'll go over your posts point by point.

1. The people who are angry are basically being squeezed out of their jobs, losing their livelihoods and forced to scramble just to make ends meet. The spark which ignites the whole shebang (in my opinion) will most likely be an outside event. There are several possibilities, any one of which could do it. They are listed in the order I think most likely:

a. China goes to war with Japan over the islands sitting atop massive oil deposits. Since the USA will have to defend Japan, per their defense treaties, the USA will either get dragged in, or (as the Chinese are obviously betting) will roll over and do nothing. In either case, the dollar will be dumped as the worlds' reserve currency within short order, as the USA will be either bankrupted by war, or shown to be so weak that other countries (esp. Africa, the Middle East and Asia) will realize the USA really is a modern Roman empire in the middle of the collapse. When the dollar is dumped, it'll crash the economy in a matter of hours to days, and anybody who still had something to lose, will lose everything. And as Gerald Celente has said, "when people lose everything, and they have nothing left to lose... they lose it!"

b. Another possibility is the death of the Euro. Since Helicopter Ben Bernanke electronically created ~$16 trillion to loan to the ECB to keep them afloat, we're now joined at the hip with them... PERMANENTLY. So when the first domino falls (Greek or French default, for instance), it'll again be hours to days before the USA gets pulled down the toilet with them, as the dollar collapses. Same effect as (a.).

c. A final possibility is a black-swan event not forseen, which results in a run on the dollar, with the same overall results. Rinse and repeat.

2.) Various federal police entities heavily target serious dissident groups in the country. Go to any meeting of serious dissidents and 1/3rd of the people are likely FBI and/or ATF agents. Often times the biggest agitators in these groups are federal cops trying to entrap people. Anyone seriously talking revolution will quickly wind up arrested and in jail.

True. They're using intimidation tactics to squelch dissent. It's not working, as witnessed by the absolute run on weapons which might have military/militia utility. Anything built in the last 100 years which might be effective in a fight, has been flying off the shelves for the last month. While the Feds are targeting those they think they can egg on into doing something "illegal," they're in a hopeless battle. Last night, I talked with a long-time friend who works for the government (in counterintelligence), and he pretty much admitted that fact.

Witness the NDAA and National Defense Resources Preparedness acts signed by oBungler... they're specifically designed to add a veneer of legality to totalitarianism... but the actions of American citizens demonstrate that the government scumbags haven't fooled anyone.

3.) The government's monopoly school system is raising generations of idiots who have no clue about what's really wrong in the country.

Ah, yes, that's been the plan, alright... but the monkey-wrench is the internet, where kids are more connected than we are as adults (much less as kids). They're finding out the truth on their own, without the filters.

Take Anonymous as an example... they're a bunch of kids, who are bright, rebellious, and recognize the corruption. This is WHY they're putting out a call to arms... it's not a call to old farts like us, but to their peers... Does this not bode well for the future of this country, that the youths of America are finally seeing the truth?

The Ron Paul movement played a big part in exposing the corruption, both in the government and with the disgusting Federal Reserve scam...

The tide has shifted, in my opinion. And what changed my opinion, is a variety of things, but especially the purchasing of so many weapons... Even here in L.A., the gun-stores are stripped clean. Pretty amazing, considering how little money most people have, now...

you truly want to protect yourself against the growing tyranny in the U.S., you need to have enough money to park offshore (preferably in multiple countries) and enough money to qualify for permanent residence or citizenship in another country, like Costa Rica, Panama, etc. where you can escape if push comes to shove.

My wife and I have considered such options. My wife and daughters have dual citizenship, and can leave if things get too dicey. It may come to that. BUT... there's no place to run, no place to hide. Not really, since the financial collapse is going to affect every country. The only question is the level of severity.

I'm staying. This is MY country, and I'll not run away like a thief in the night. And unlike most other countries in the world, I have access to as money guns as my funds will allow.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2013-01-25   11:51:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#12. To: Capitalist Eric (#9)

Even here in L.A., the gun-stores are stripped clean. Pretty amazing, considering how little money most people have, now...

Went to a gun store Monday afternoon to pick up some ammo, they were totally out of .22, .223, 9MM, .357 Mag, .357 Sig, 44 Mag and .45 ACP!!! They did have some .380, 9 MM Makarov, 38 Spec, 40 S&W, 10MM, and most of the rifle calibers... The pistol cabinets were still full but they said they were using them for examples and were backordering just about everything, same thing for ARs... They still had a decent supply of bolt action rifles and shotguns but not with a whole lot of options, just Plain Jane models... I grabbed 2 boxes of 9MM Makarov just for giggles even though I have plenty, you never know...

Another thing that is going like hotcakes are bows... I decided to buy my wife a recurve for Xmas, and ordered one from Cabelas in October.... I started wondering if it was going to get here in time for Xmas and called Cabelas customer service... They said almost everything they carried in the catalog was on backorder and didn't know if they were all going to make it for Xmas... So I went looking around the net at other websites and found out most of their stuff was on backorder too, the wifes showed up at the house on the 23rd...

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