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If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? I do. I know it If you are going to kill someone you are going to do it. Murder has existed since the first family. It will always exist. It is already against the law to kill someone. So by outlawing guns you are just taking peoples rights away and leaving them defenseless to someone can simply print out a gun and kill you anyways. It is pointless. Or is there an ulterior motive? 1. Would there be an increase in knife violence if guns were banned. (note you are dumb if you think they will stop with the guns currently targeted). 2. What is that ulterior motive? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 35. #4. To: A K A Stone (#0) So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? "They" won't ban all guns, not even most guns. So the question of knife violence is a completely different matter. I certainly do not have many answers with regard to gun control ...... But I do believe that there are some steps that can be taken that might make some sense, from a big picture perspective. For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance. In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated. Obtaining a firearm would become much more challenging, requiring a more in depth background check, including medical and criminal history, and a semi- annual drug and alcohol screening. (at the gun-owners' expense) Qualifying for Concealed Carry permits would require additional proof of competency, higher levels of liability insurance, a more thorough background investigation and registration with law-enforcement. Reasonable? Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   8:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Jameson (#4) For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance. In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated. I don't think that is reasonable at all. In your scenario since it obviously violates the second amendment. You would want a constitutional amendment to implement this correct? A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-24   9:09:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: A K A Stone (#5) In your scenario since it obviously violates the second amendment. obviously? Not obvious at all. While I am not an expert on constitutional law, I don't see how the simple registration of an object violates anyone's rights..... Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   9:23:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Jameson (#6) I don't see how the simple registration of an object violates anyone's rights..... Because you are saying that you have to give them your information to exercise that right. A right is something that can't be taken away. It is a pre existing natural right. Remember we are to be free from unreasonable searches of our papers persona and affects. If the right to bear arms can't be infringed. Then it would take a court ordered search warrant to lawfully get that information. You are proposing a law to do that. A law that is plain as day unconstitutional. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-24   9:39:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: A K A Stone (#8) you are saying that you have to give them your information to exercise that right. Gun registration would not take away anyone's right. . Requiring personal accountability and responsibility for ownership of a deadly weapon is simply common sense. As a proud law-abiding American I would feel that it was my patriotic duty to do what is right and register my weapons, pay my taxes and provide the appropriate liability insurance. I suspect that many of the people who would be reluctant to registering their weapons would probably have serious "issues" that would possibly prevent them from gun ownership. Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   10:37:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Jameson (#10) Gun registration would not take away anyone's right. . Requiring personal accountability and responsibility for ownership of a deadly weapon is simply common sense. As a proud law-abiding American I would feel that it was my patriotic duty to do what is right and register my weapons, pay my taxes and provide the appropriate liability insurance. I suspect that many of the people who would be reluctant to registering their weapons would probably have serious "issues" that would possibly prevent them from gun ownership. It isn't patriotic to obey an illegal government screwing with God given rights. I would suggest it is unpatriotic to register your gun. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-24   10:55:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: A K A Stone (#13) It isn't patriotic to obey an illegal government screwing with God given rights. I would suggest it is unpatriotic to register your gun. Your Korean heros in that photo you posted on that other thread were on the side of the GOVERNMENT. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-24   11:07:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: mininggold (#17) Your Korean heros in that photo you posted on that other thread were on the side of the GOVERNMENT. So what. The government isn't always wrong. I know you side with the rioters and say they had a just cause. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-24   11:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: A K A Stone (#21) (Edited) To: mininggold Your Korean heros in that photo you posted on that other thread were on the side of the GOVERNMENT. So what. The government isn't always wrong. I know you side with the rioters and say they had as just cause. I said THEY thought they had a just cause. Someday you will learn to discuss topics without always having to put your biases into it. And you sided with cops and and said they had as just a cause. Like the safety of the general populace. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-24   11:38:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 35.         There are no replies to Comment # 35. End Trace Mode for Comment # 35. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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