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Title: Installing heat and air in my workshop,need advise
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Published: Dec 21, 2012
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2012-12-21 18:32:32 by sneakypete
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I want to put a combined heat and ac unit in my workshop,and am looking for brand advise as well as estimated expenses for purchase and installation costs.

The shop is a 35x50 foot Quonset hut with a 18 foot ceiling. Right now I am thinking a 250k btu rating on the furnace.

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#16. To: sneakypete (#0)

I want to put a combined heat and ac unit in my workshop,and am looking for brand advise as well as estimated expenses for purchase and installation costs.

There are so many variables to this pete, but you can start by answering these questions....

For instance what state do you live in??

Is your building insulated??

What temperatures are you looking to maintain in the shop in summer and winter??

Can you burn wood for heat??

How aften do you plan on using your workshop??

Did the building have heat and A/C in it before??? Is the ductwork still there??

What are the minimum SEER ratings for new installations in your area?? (Probably 13 or higher)...

Right now fossil fuels (nat gas, propane and wood) are the better way to heat because we currently have a glut of them... Electricity is the most expensive and will continue to climb because of what the Leftards are doing to the coal industry and EPA pollution standards...

Buying a used/surplus A/C unit will be cheaper now but "MAY" cost you more later because that refrigerant R22 is being phased out and replaced with other ones... R22 right now is about $12 per lb (and will only go up in price not down) and the newer replacement ones are running around $6-10 per lb...

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#17. To: CZ82 (#16)

There are so many variables to this pete, but you can start by answering these questions....

For instance what state do you live in??

The mid-south. It gets below freezing here. Sometimes down into the teens at night,but we don't have the brutal winters the people further north have.

Is your building insulated??

Partially,which in essence means "no". I didn't really want to insulate it until I put in heat and ac because right now the sun heats it up in the daytime. It's a galvanized Quonset hut.

What temperatures are you looking to maintain in the shop in summer and winter??

Mostly 60F in the winter,and maybe 70 in the summer.

Can you burn wood for heat??

Not a chance. Besides not wanting to waste my time cutting and hauling wood and ashes,I work on cars in there and there is gasoline vapors from the gas tanks,and I also plan on painting in there and there will be paint fumes floating around while I'm doing it.

How aften do you plan on using your workshop??

Pretty much every day (or night,I mostly like working from around 9 PM to sunrise. I always feel better after dark and have more energy and am better able to concentrate.

Did the building have heat and A/C in it before??? Is the ductwork still there??

No,I had it put up a couple of years ago,and there is zero ductwork in there. Never has had any.

What are the minimum SEER ratings for new installations in your area?? (Probably 13 or higher)...

AFAIK,I believe it is about 13. I am hoping to be able to afford to up to 15 or 16,though.

Right now fossil fuels (nat gas, propane and wood) are the better way to heat because we currently have a glut of them... Electricity is the most expensive and will continue to climb because of what the Leftards are doing to the coal industry and EPA pollution standards...

Natural gas is out. No lines. Also,I thought electricity was very competitive now? I've had several people tell me recently that there wasn't much difference now between propane and electricity heating costs,plus you avoid getting another bill to pay each month. In fact,I had been thinking about a split unit,with electricity for the AC,and propane for the heat until I was told this. I have a 9x20 foot office and bathroom with a flat roof built inside my shop (NEVER try to raise wet 2x6 walls by yourself!),and had been thinking about putting the heating element right on that flat roof.

The "office"/bathroom is inside and insulated to R-19,so I will be able to heat it with a space heater. Plan on either mounting a window unit high on a wall. I'd like to run a duct through the roof for the ac,but I'm afraid it would get so cold in there you could hang meat with the shop thermostat set high enough to cool the shop out there. I don't really want open windows in the office and bath because I would like to keep the fumes and dust out of there.

Buying a used/surplus A/C unit will be cheaper now

Not going to happen here. You can't get a permit to install a used unit. If you could I have a couple of huge ones I would have already put had put in.

but "MAY" cost you more later because that refrigerant R22 is being phased out and replaced with other ones... R22 right now is about $12 per lb (and will only go up in price not down) and the newer replacement ones are running around $6-10 per lb...

One good reason to buy new. Plus,if I buy new and local there is some small hope I can get it serviced. You are pretty much on your own calling the dealers around here if you need repairs and didn't buy from them. I've got better things to do with my remaining time than chase around repairemen or learn how to fix the damn thing myself.

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