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Opinions/Editorials Title: Bizarro World logic vs. Israel A cartoon image comes to mind. A mother breaks up a fight between two children, one of whom offers this defense: “It started when he hit me back.” Remember that mentality when you hear Palestinians call Israel “the aggressor.” Hamas fired hundreds, perhaps 1,000 missiles into Israel from Gaza. They hit schools, apartment buildings, streets and vacant lots. The aim was to kill and, if not to kill, at least to terrorize. Mission accomplished. Finally, Israel responded, first by “droning” the Hamas military leader, then by airstrikes against the terror group’s ammunition dumps and rocket launchers, some intentionally placed near mosques and houses. So, yes, naturally, the war started when Israel hit back. Double standards are par for the course in the Mideast and all the Jew-hating salons from Turtle Bay to Paris. While the hatred is shouted with a clenched fist on the smoldering streets of Gaza City, equally absurd claims are made by striped-pants diplomats and left-leaning sophisticates who insist Israel is guilty of “disproportionate” force because it uses its huge military advantage. Their argument moves the goal posts. They tacitly accept Israel’s right to respond, but only up to a point. No matter its losses, the Jewish state must never “escalate” because that would be unfair. Think about that: Affirmative action has come to the battlefield, where the results must be level for the sake of fairness. Coming soon, the demand that Israel turn over half of its weapons to its enemies. Perhaps Hamas would like an Iron Dome of its own? Meanwhile, Syrian leaders slaughter tens of thousands of their fellow Muslims, but the world turns away. The dead opponents would have been featured by CNN if they had died at the hands of Israel. This theater of the ridiculous is not without the potential for unspeakable suffering and global conflict. Hamas’ provocation is part of a larger scheme of Islamists who are growing both in radicalism and power. Their aim is to wipe Israel off the map, not to negotiate its borders. Iran is the foremost sponsor, and its fingerprints are literally all over the Gaza conflict, having supplied Hamas with many of the missiles it uses to terrorize Israelis. Another sign of rising danger in the changing Mideast is that Egypt and Turkey were asked by the United States to help mediate between Israel and Hamas. That would be the same Egypt now controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood, an ideological parent to Hamas, and Turkey, where the prime minister called Israel “a terrorist nation.” Israel won’t trust any half-baked deal that’s offered from those governments, which is why Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced she would get involved. Her presence will prove encouraging only if she really has Israel’s back. The test will be whether she makes it seem that both sides are equally guilty. It won’t help or be relevant if she starts blubbering about the “peace process,” as though Hamas just wants a good deal and is prepared to co-exist with Israel. It is not. Israel is fighting for its existence, and Hamas is sworn to never accept that existence. Any concession Israel makes will be pocketed and used against it in the future. A cease-fire, if it comes, is not peace and can’t last. Having tested Israel and found itself greatly overmatched again, Hamas will withdraw, claim victory and start preparing for the next round. In a sense, it is winning. Its militancy is increasingly popular among Palestinians and fits with the growing fundamentalist rage in the region. Now it has been rewarded with the attention of the United States, which is forced to bargain over its demands and grievances. All of which guarantees one thing. We have not seen the last of the war between Hamas and Israel. They’d better make cents Press accounts of an educational forum for 2013 mayoral candidates had a familiar ring. There were mild disagreements over testing, and total fear of offending the teachers union. The pandering was so predictable that it isn’t shocking. But it may not matter much by the time New Yorkers actually get around to voting. Absent a miracle, city finances will be the real issue next year. They already are out of whack because of ever-rising borrowing and spending, and stagnant revenues, and that’s before the bomb that Hurricane Sandy dropped on parts of Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island shows up on the city’s books. The destruction of infrastructure, relief costs and loss of tax revenue will become apparent over the next year. Even with federal and state help, the financial impact will be a major challenge for Mayor Bloomberg and those who want to succeed him. The issue is similar to the national financial crisis that erupted during the 2008 presidential campaign. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain was prepared for it, and the effects still roil our job market and economy today. Candidates are genetically programmed to claim they have solutions that will let voters have their cake and eat it, too — without getting fat. They won’t acknowledge a problem that’s beyond their grasp as long as they can avoid it. New Yorkers shouldn’t fall for the trap. The next mayor must find creative ways to live within the city’s means, or watch the flight of those who can afford to leave. There are no other options. Remember that when the candidates come around promising the sun and the moon. Ask them what they’re going to do about the here and now. Then ask again, so they know you’re serious. Still courting trouble Here’s the good news: The number of US law-school applications has fallen by 14 percent in the last year, a survey says. Here’s the bad: That means there are still more than 65,000 students hoping to get admitted. All the rage in Albany Kevin Parker, the hot-headed Brooklyn Democrat who is known to use his fists when words fail, reportedly wants to head his party in the state Senate. And you thought Albany couldn’t get any more bizarre. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Clarification
These periodic bouts of Jewish ritual slaughter of gentiles are . . . clarifying. For example, it is simply not possible for anyone to watch or read any snippet of Gaza coverage from the mainstream media and miss the fact that the Jews own and control the media, and that they manipulate the coverage for the purposes of advancing the cause of violent Jewish group supremacism. Similarly, the public reaction of the American government, both executive branch and legislative branch, makes clear the cost of Jewish billionaire financing of American political candidates. Meanwhile, the American government is furiously working behind the scenes to try to mitigate some of the horrible damage done to the United States by this pandering to the Jewish billionaires. In a nutshell, the Obama Doctrine - the deal between Barry and the Jewish billionaires - is that the United States will publicly back any bouts of Jewish ritual slaughter of gentiles while maintaining the right to try to reel in the Israeli government quietly and behind the scenes. At the same time, the Americans do not need to put boots on the ground, or take any precipitous steps that might lead to the Americans having to put boots on the ground, in any future Wars For The Jews, as long as they fight any and all Wars For The Jews required of them using: 1. drone warfare, and
2. economic sanctions, and, 3. proxy armies like the MEK or 'al Qaeda'.
"The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages ... http://www.dailypaul.com/.../the...a-back-to-the-middle-ages - Cached
4 days ago ... "The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages. Only then will Israel be calm for forty years." - Interior Minister Eli Yisha
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0) Lots and Lots of babies dying here, A K. Better get after the perp, eh? "In the new global landscape, as in Israel’s occupied territories and the United States’ own imperial projects in Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and Afghanistan, massacres of thousands of defenseless innocents are labeled wars. Resistance is called a provocation, terrorism or a crime against humanity. The rule of law, as well as respect for the most basic civil liberties and the right of self-determination, is a public relations fiction used to placate the consciences of those who live in the zones of privilege. Prisoners are routinely tortured and “disappeared.” The severance of food and medical supplies is an accepted tactic of control. Lies permeate the airwaves. Religious, racial and ethnic groups are demonized. Missiles rain down on concrete hovels, mechanized units fire on unarmed villagers, gunboats pound refugee camps with heavy shells, and the dead, including children, line the corridors of hospitals that lack electricity and medicine. "
#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2) Lots and Lots of babies dying here, A K. Then their parents shouldn't be so stupid. Israel doesn't have to sit back and be bombed. If there is collateral damage I don't care. Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth.
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#2) Lots and Lots of babies dying here, A K. Yeah. Kill their scumbag muslim parents who want them to die for "allah". Send them to hell.
#5. To: mcgowanjm (#2) Here is another target. Put a bullet in his head Bibi.
#6. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited) Then their parents shouldn't be so stupid. Israel doesn't have to sit back and be bombed. If there is collateral damage I don't care. Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth. They have the fastest growing population on earth, which vangies as yourself see as God's blessings. They need to be encourage to move then, maybe to your area. Should be no problem as they believe in the same god of Abraham as you do. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #7. To: mininggold (#6) They have the fastest growing population on earth, which vangies as yourself see as God's blessings. The Muslims don't believe in the same God. Don't be stupid.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#5) Gaza and Energy Geopolitics The military occupation of Gaza is intent upon transferring the sovereignty of the gas fields to Israel in violation of international law. "IF we have to bomb Gaza back to the Stone Age and Genocide the people there to get that gas, then that's what we'll do."
#9. To: A K A Stone, All (#7) Lots and Lots of babies dying here, A K. So at what point, A K, does the baby go from 'Save at All costs, up to and including discarding the womb carrying mother.... to 'Kill them'? At what point, A K? Conception to........at this point the baby is a person, now evil and must be destroyed
#10. To: mcgowanjm (#9) You answer first. You care about foreigners. But you support Obama the baby serial killer.
#11. To: mcgowanjm (#8) The military occupation of Gaza is intent upon transferring the sovereignty of the gas fields to Israel in violation of international law. Take your international law and stick it up Obamas ass. Secondly Gaza is Israel. The Palis are squatters.
#12. To: mcgowanjm (#9) When they are brainwashed like this would be a starting point.
#13. To: mininggold (#12) I hope the Jews find his parents and extinguish their life.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#7) The Muslims don't believe in the same God. Don't be stupid. They believe in the God of Abraham. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #15. To: A K A Stone (#13) (Edited) hope the Jews find his parents and extinguish their life. The trouble with you vangies is you believe the Old Testament and not the New Testament. No matter how many are killed something else will always spring up to make the Jews lives miserable, Jesus was only the first. It's one of the few predictions from the Bible that seems consistently true since that era. They want the USA for themsleves too, but they just can't stop acting like Pharisees. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #16. To: A K A Stone (#3) Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth. noted. How I got here
by A K A Stone
#17. To: A K A Stone (#3) If there is collateral damage I don't care. Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth. So much for the sanctity of life, eh?
#18. To: mcgowanjm (#16) Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth. Blowing people up and bombing people is not compatible with how people should behave. When I say the Jews should wipe out the Palis. I don't think individuals should do that. I think it is their governments job to protect them. Their people are constantly being bombed. They need to say enough is enough and wipe on the perpetrators. That is what a responsible government would do. Remember Gods word also says there is a time for war. If your people are being bombed for 30 years straight that means you are in a war.
#19. To: meguro (#17) If there is collateral damage I don't care. Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth. When a people is constantly attacking another people. They are in war and entitled to defend themselves. Sometimes that will be offense.
#20. To: meguro (#17) If there is collateral damage I don't care. Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth. Notice I said Muslims not Arabs. The Muslim Koran says kill everyone that isn't a Muslim. So they be being a Muslim are at war with me and you. There are some people who call themselves Muslim but aren't really Muslim because they don't really follow the Koran. Just as there are people who call themselves Christian that really aren't really Christian. Look at what Muslims do to their kids
#21. To: A K A Stone (#18) Blowing people up and bombing people is not compatible with how people should behave. And you think ALL Muslims are bombing Jews? It's OK with you that innocent Palestinian civilians, including women and children are being killed?
#22. To: A K A Stone (#20) Look at what Muslims do to their kids But if an Israeli kills a Muslim kid, that's OK?
#23. To: meguro (#17) If there is collateral damage I don't care. Muslims are scumbags that are incompatible with life on earth.
You can't call childrens services on these nuts. Their government is the abusers of children. Their parents are the abuser sickos. You have to be a sicko to be a Muslim.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#20) Notice I said Muslims not Arabs. The Muslim Koran says kill everyone that isn't a Muslim. So they be being a Muslim are at war with me and you. There are some people who call themselves Muslim but aren't really Muslim because they don't really follow the Koran. Just as there are people who call themselves Christian that really aren't really Christian. Funny, I have Muslim friends and they haven't tried to kill me. What's up with that?
#25. To: meguro (#22) Look at what Muslims do to their kids So the Jews should just be bombed and do nothing? That is dumb. It is tragic if an innocent kid loses his life. But no nation has to sit back and be bombed. By firing first the Muslims put their kids in danger. You just hate Jews because the Bible comes from their culture and you hate it because it rightly condemns you. You are inconsistent. If North Korea is firing into South Korea. Then South Korea fires back and hits a kid because the North had them near their weapons. You would side with South Korea not North. But you are irrational and biased because the Bible condemns you.
#26. To: meguro (#24) Funny, I have Muslim friends and they haven't tried to kill me. What's up with that? They must be Muslim in the same sense that Obama is Christian.
#27. To: meguro (#21) And you think ALL Muslims are bombing Jews? People die in wars. The Muslims put their kids in the line of fire. That isn't Israels fault. The Muslims are only in Israel because they hate the Bible and they think that by them being there they make the Bible false and the Koran true. The Muslims that are in Israel are only there to make trouble. If they wanted to they could easily leave tiny Israel and live in a Muslim country. Their are tons of tunnels they smuggle through. So they are free to come and go as they please.
#28. To: mcgowanjm, meguro (#9) Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of one of the founders of the Hamas terrorist organization and author of the book “Son of Hamas,” said on Friday that Israel made a mistake by agreeing to a ceasefire with Gaza’s terrorist rulers. Yousef has spent a number of years abroad following a decade in which he risked his life working undercover as an agent for the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet). His code name during that time was 'The Green Prince.' "What is important is that at the moment there is a ceasefire, and I think we need to look at things and digest all of what happened," Yousef told Israel’s Channel 2 News in a special interview. "I believe the Shin Bet did its best,” he added. “Let's not forget that our enemy is a barbaric one which uses women and children as human shields, and in these situations we are very limited, because we care about the lives of innocent citizens.” www.israelnationalnews.co....aspx/162454#.ULFKtIY01Is
#29. To: meguro, Brian S (#22) Look at what Muslims do to their kids Israel is dealing with lunatics that aren't right in the head. The muslim culture is a sick culture. When dealing with people this sick Israel is going to have to hurt them real bad and kill a lot of them. You can't reason with these sickos. Watch the video and it will help you understand how mentally depraved these Muslims are.
#30. To: meguro (#24)
#31. To: meguro (#24) Funny, I have Muslim friends and they haven't tried to kill me. What's up with that?
I'm sure both of the men in this video call themselves Muslims. The guy in the White outfit I would define as a Muslim. The guy in the suit just calls himself a Muslim so he isn't killed. I am talking about the ones like the kook here in the white suit.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#26) They must be Muslim in the same sense that Obama is Christian. Or in the sense you have a functioning brain.
#33. To: A K A Stone (#29) Israel is dealing with lunatics that aren't right in the head. The muslim culture is a sick culture. When dealing with people this sick Israel is going to have to hurt them real bad and kill a lot of them. You can't reason with these sickos. Watch the video and it will help you understand how mentally depraved these Muslims are. So it's ok to kill Muslim babies in your opinion. I'll make a note of that.
#34. To: meguro (#33) So it's ok to kill Muslim babies in your opinion. I'll make a note of that. And you'd like to keep them alive so you can have sex with them..also noted.
#35. To: Thunderbird (#34) And you'd like to keep them alive so you can have sex with them..also noted. Jealous?
#36. To: meguro (#35) No..but your gerbel is.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#28) # # Why has Mosab Hassan Yousef (the 'Green Prince') turned against ... www.haaretz.com/.../why-h...t-his-own-people-1.449205 - Cached Jul 6, 2012 ... If Mosab Hassan Yousef has adopted an evangelical worldview, his staunch pro- Israel attitude should not be conflated with what is best for ... Thanx for confirmation that Hamas was founded by Israel to stop Nationalism. Same across the Middle East. Why we're such buddy buddies with Muslim Brotherhood now. See CIA founded Al Qaida, never lost contact for more.....;}
#38. To: A K A Stone (#18) Blowing people up and bombing people is not compatible with how people should behave. Exactly. Killing people to show that killing is wrong never works.
#39. To: Thunderbird (#36) No..but your gerbel is. Hmm... somehow I think you are, champ.
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