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Title: Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases)
Source: CNBC
URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550
Published: Nov 7, 2012
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2012-11-07 17:54:49 by Hondo68
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Keywords: want you to lead, a balanced approach, will include higher taxes
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House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.

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Speaker of the House John Boehner

"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. (Read more: Obama Re-elected as Crucial Ohio Goes His Way.)


The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.


The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.

"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said. (Read more: Alarm on Wall Street Grows as 'Fiscal Cliff' Nears.)

Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.

His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.

"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.


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#60. To: Brian S (#57)

Nothing compared to your 'hero', the war criminal, baby bush.

How many babies and children did HE direct the killing of in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Last I checked you voted Bush in 2000.

Last I checked I voted Peroutka in 2004.

Last I checked you support Obama the war criminal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#59)

You're a child molester.

Fuck you,you insane piece of shit! Why don't you go crawl up yukons ass and just live there?

I was just demonstrating your debate style. You proclaim something with no evidence and say it is true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone (#45)

You said Romney was a communist because he wanted to control the globe.

You have the attention span of a gnat,but not as much understanding.

What I said was Romney was a globalist,and globalists were like communists because they want to control the world.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#46)

The ones who Fourth in the revolutionary war would be ashaemed to call you a descendant based on what you say about the first amendment and other parts of the constitution they fought for. Just saying.

WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#47)

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President.

YOU were the one that said this,idiot.

You really are a fool.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: sneakypete (#63)

WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?

You don't believe in freedom of religion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#56)

his lies on abortion, gun rights, small government. He would have put his hand the bible and sworn to uphold the Constitution...when in reality, everything he has done shows his disdain for freedom...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-11-08   21:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#54)

The people who don't vote against Obama give him their consent.

The implication is that there was an alternative to o'Bungler.

And there was. I took advantage of that option... by writing in "Ron Paul."

If you are implying that mcRomneystain was an alternative to o'Bungler, than please provide the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to back up such claims.

Oh, don't worry, stone... I'm not really gonna' hold your feet to the fire, waiting for you to actually PROVIDE such evidence... and that's mainly because such evidence doesn't exist.

Obama won like you wanted. Now live with it toad.

There were advantages and disadvantages- from a long-term perspective- for either sock-puppet. Overall, though, what I wanted was precluded from happening, because useless fucking cowards like you allow the Kabuki theater to continue.

How heavy are the chains you wear, slave???

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#50)

2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.

How do you know WHAT he believes? Does he still believe the things he believed when the conservatives of the conservative state of Massachusetts voted for him to be their governor?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#64)

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President.

YOU were the one that said this,idiot.

You really are a fool.

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,Hillary Clinton or JEB Bush?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 8:41:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #16. To: sneakypete (#15)

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,

Rand Paul

A K A Stone posted on 2012-11-08 8:43:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Rand Paul

You're moving to Ky?

And if you do move there,what makes you so sure the RNC is not going to run someone against him in the primaries to take his seat?

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 16:23:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit

YOU REALLY ARE SENILE PETEY

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Capitalist Eric (#52)

NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

I have long believed and promoted the idea that their should be a "None of the Above" check box on each ballot,and anytime "none of the above" got the most votes the parties that ran the other candidates had to dig into their own pockets and pay for another election to pick a candidate.

I can practically guarantee you that we would get better candidates with a policy like that in place.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#53)

The ten short term demands of the Communist Manifesto:

1.Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4.Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   21:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#61)

You proclaim something with no evidence and say it is true.

Your hypocrisy knows NO bounds, does it???

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#65)

WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?

You don't believe in freedom of religion.

I said that? WHEN? If I ever said it you should be able to produce my post.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: freedomsnotfree (#66)

his lies on abortion, gun rights, small government. He would have put his hand the bible and sworn to uphold the Constitution...when in reality, everything he has done shows his disdain for freedom...

He said he changed his mind on abortion. That troubled me. Maybe he was lying. I can't prove it. So I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Since he would have no affect on it anyway.

On guns. I disagree with the assault weapons ban. I think it to be unconsittutionaly. I don't agree but I can see how reasonalbe good people might want to put some restrictions on guns because they honestly think that it would be in societies best interest. Romney would have been a first term President. The Republicans were not going to pass any gun control legislation. Furthermore at worse he is a tie with Obama. Now Obama is re elected and going to the UN to push gun control.

He wasn't perfect. He was better than Obama no doubt....NONE!

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Abcdefg (#71)

Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

Lets start there. Where does Romney advocate that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Abcdefg (#71)

3.Abolition of all right of inheritance.

Lets throw this one out too. Where does he support that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Abcdefg (#71)

2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

I never saw where he supported that either.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Abcdefg (#71)

5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

He doesn't support that either.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Abcdefg (#71)

6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

I've never seen him speak of this. Did he propose it somewhere?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Abcdefg (#71)

7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

I must have missed this one. Maybe you can provide me with a link. Please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: sneakypete (#70)

I can practically guarantee you that we would get better candidates with a policy like that in place.

I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE...

(which of course, misses the whole point) LOL.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Abcdefg (#71)

.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

Come on he never said or supported this idea.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#69)

I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President. YOU were the one that said this,idiot.

You really are a fool.

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,Hillary Clinton or JEB Bush?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 8:41:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #16. To: sneakypete (#15)

Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,

Rand Paul

A K A Stone posted on 2012-11-08 8:43:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Rand Paul

You're moving to Ky?

And if you do move there,what makes you so sure the RNC is not going to run someone against him in the primaries to take his seat?

sneakypete posted on 2012-11-08 16:23:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit

YOU REALLY ARE SENILE PETEY

You really need to read all that again.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-08   21:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Abcdefg (#71)

10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.

I guess it could be said he is for this one.

Are you against free education for our kids? Pretend the schools are good.

I'm not for factory labor. Unless it is a kid working for his folks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#83)

You really need to read all that again.

No I don't.

You asked me if I was supporting Hillary. She isn't running for state office anywhere.

I said no I support Rand Paul.

You asked if I am moving to Kentucky.

Case closed you lose.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#17) (Edited)

"Ok simpleton. Do you know what a communist is? What about Romney is communist? To the left of Obama. Do you smoke crack?"

You seem tense stonie, here, here is a consolation election cake for ya.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:32:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone (#82) (Edited)

Come on he never said or supported this idea

I am not claiming he did. The subject of Communism came up and I posted the 10 planks of Marx's manifesto.

"Are you against free education for our kids?"

You bet I am. Since when is it free?

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-11-08   21:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Capitalist Eric (#81)

I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE...

No you can do what you want. You think Obama is to the right of Romney. So you are happy. At least Obama is anti Jew. That is what really matters to you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Abcdefg (#87)

I am not claiming he did. The subject of Communism came up and I posted the 10 planks of Marx's manifesto. How about free, compulsory, government controlled education?

Ok thanks for supplying the list and some common sense. The common sense being you never said he was a communist.

Free public education is addressed in post 84.

I sent my kids to private school until last year when it got to expensive.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Capitalist Eric (#81)

"I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE..."

Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Abcdefg (#87)

"Are you against free education for our kids?"

You bet I am. Since when is it free?

I have been in the past. I think it should be done differently then presently. Like the money following the kid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#60) (Edited)

I voted for the bushes at least 10 times in my days (probably more than that) throwing in daddy and jr's governor stint in TX...primaries and all.

At least I can admit my folly, you haven't the balls to.

That said, 'you people' are never going to win another election with your neandrathal mentality.

Move, get out...find another place to live that shares your views.

OH...what? There isn't such a place? LOL

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#88)

You think Obama is to the right of Romney.

Please provide a link to where I said that, or just admit that you're a fucking liar. You are such a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

So you are happy.

Please provide a link to where I said that, or just admit that you're a fucking liar. You are such a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

At least Obama is anti Jew. That is what really matters to you.

Please provide a link to where I said that, or just admit that you're a fucking liar. You are such a lying, disengenuous, IMMORAL HYPOCRITE.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: sneakypete (#73)

"I said that? WHEN? If I ever said it you should be able to produce my post."

Schadenfreude is always Stonie's game.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-11-08   21:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Brian S (#92)

At least I can admit my folly, you haven't to balls to.

You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.

I've said stuff about Bush that I'm glad the secret service didn't come visit me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Brian S (#92)

Move, get out...find another place to live that shares your views.

OH...what? There isn't such a place? LOL

Are you saying that I am unique? Thank you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-11-08   21:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#95)

I've said stuff about Bush that I'm glad the secret service didn't come visit me.

After the illegal slaughter in Iraq, I've had that visit and they loved my tomatoes.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#96)

Are you saying that I am unique? Thank you.

Unique and forever the 'odd man' out.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-08   21:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ferret Mike (#90)

Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.

The ironic part, is that the pacification of sheeple like stone is so effective, that even after "his" candidate was beaten like a God-damned drum, he continues to insist that mcRomneystain was an electable alternative...

Talk about delusional...

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-08   21:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#86) (Edited)

WAKE UP Stone, it was all a bad dream... The Romney Transition Team is hard at work saving Mexico Amercia!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-11-08   21:46:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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