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Opinions/Editorials Title: I want to have a discussion with mininggold Ok lets have a discussion. What is it that you don't like about us conservatives? Why is it bad for taxes to be low for the people? Doesn't that give us more freedom? Your side is for abortion being legal. Can't you understand why our side finds the act reprehensible? Are you not capable of that? Are we bad because we are against killing babies in the womb? Why is that bad? We think people should able to own firearms. Not because we want to commit crimes or hurt people. But because we recognize that a free people must always be on guard against tyranny. You see we love our families and we want them to succeed for generations to come. So one of the things that is important is for our people to be able to own weapons in case some day the government tries to do something really bad. Some people would say we are already there or close. Your side gets upset when someone with money speaks. Shouldn't we all be able to speak and say what we want to? You and your side say but it is a corporation. No it is a person and they have a right to speak. Then there is the welfare state. You can't see that it is destroying us in many many ways. First off it makes people lazy. They won't work because they don't want to lose their food stamps or their welfare. Real middle income people have to pay taxes to support those people. You think that is right? Shouldn't compassion come from the heart and not the threat from government? We spend over a trillion dollars on welfare now? How can that be good? That is a trillion stolen dollars from the people who worked for it. Aren't we entitled to the fruits of our labor? Creation. How can anyone not see that the world was created? It is self evident. The list goes on and on. What do you think? Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 23. #17. To: A K A Stone, Liberator, rowdee, SJN, TooConservative, GarySpFc (#0) Very well laid out. On the welfare state. We get professed Christians who cling to the welfare state because they see it as charity. What do I say? Paul went to Greece to gather the donations of willing believers to care for Christians in need. He did not go to Caesar to petition higher taxes so Rome (not Christian) could redistribute. Seems Paul knew the score...Charity comes from willing believers, not taxes. Paul also told us to work with our hands and eat our own bread, take care of widows and orphans. Those that clearly cannot take care of themselves.
#21. To: redleghunter (#17) (Edited) On the welfare state. We get professed Christians who cling to the welfare state because they see it as charity. What do I say? Paul went to Greece to gather the donations of willing believers to care for Christians in need. He did not go to Caesar to petition higher taxes so Rome (not Christian) could redistribute. Seems Paul knew the score...Charity comes from willing believers, not taxes. Paul also told us to work with our hands and eat our own bread, take care of widows and orphans. Those that clearly cannot take care of themselves. And yet most "conservatives" seem to have no problem throwing money at the biggest welfare state to ever live, Israel. So.. what is it about the American people getting what the citizens of Israel already have that you hate so much?
And Paul wasn't Jesus.
#23. To: mininggold, redleghunter (#21) (Edited) "Seems Paul knew the score...Charity comes from willing believers, not taxes. Paul also told us to work with our hands and eat our own bread, take care of widows and orphans. Those that clearly cannot take care of themselves." The amount allotted too Israel and where the money is used has been posted here, and other forums many times, it is not used for 'welfare', are you too stupid to look up where the money goes, or just lazy? Tell everyone here just what it is you don't understand, or don't agree with about 'redleghunter's' post, or did it just go over your head like everything else? Charity is something the (federal) government should not be mixed in with, they have no right to take from anyone by force (taxes) and give to others, not knowing if those they take from are suffering just as much. It is our individual states and the people themselves, who should take care of their own needs, hunger, housing, medical, widows and orphans, and so on. Oh! And I'm sure you can post some sort of documented proof where Paul has ever proclamed himself, Jesus.... I would have posted this in crayola crayon, but you still wouldn't have a clue, that would actually take thinking on your part instead of the undocumented BS you post.
Replies to Comment # 23. The amount allotted too Israel and where the money is used has been posted here, and other forums many times, it is not used for 'welfare', are you too stupid to look up where the money goes, or just lazy? The whole country of Israel is a welfare state, Pendejo. Without our blood and treasure it would have been relegated to being just an historical footnote, where it rightly belongs. And since you so fervently rationalize and support a theocracy one has to assume you want that for the US too. You appear to be just another example of the Christian Taliban that has taken over the GOP.
#26. To: Murron (#23) Tell everyone here just what it is you don't understand, or don't agree with about 'redleghunter's' post, or did it just go over your head like everything else? Charity is something the (federal) government should not be mixed in with, they have no right to take from anyone by force (taxes) and give to others, not knowing if those they take from are suffering just as much. It is our individual states and the people themselves, who should take care of their own needs, hunger, housing, medical, widows and orphans, and so on. Well, I guess that said it all:) Was getting ready to post a response but you covered it all.
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