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Title: Support Your Local Standing Army? ("Assault Weapons")
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LewRockwell
URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance302.html
Published: Sep 6, 2012
Author: Laurence M. Vance
Post Date: 2012-09-06 18:29:13 by Hondo68
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Why is it that libertarians – who don’t revere the Constitution – have no trouble understanding the Constitution but conservatives – who do revere the Constitution – have so much trouble? In a letter to the editor of The New American published in its August 20, 2012 issue, someone who believes "in the constitutional right of citizens to keep and bear arms for self-defense – the protection of life and property" and in "the right of a person to hunt and harvest a natural resource for food" is nevertheless troubled about Americans having guns for other purposes. In a letter sent via e-mail, Richard Moore writes about military-type guns being the problem. I reproduce his letter here with my observations because his ideas are typical of many conservatives who have accepted the legitimacy of federal gun laws. During the time of the creating of the Constitution, all people, civilians, military, and standing armies, had equal access to small arms, single-shot flintlock firearms, and edged weapons. A person with training and practice could load and accurately fire three rounds in one minute with a flintlock firearm, not hundreds of rounds in minutes. I believe in the constitutional right of citizens to keep and bear arms for self-defense – the protection of life and property. I believe in the right of a person to hunt and harvest a natural resource for food. This is also a humane method used to control wildlife populations. High-power, high-capacity, high-tech weapons are for military use and intended for sales to nations with standing armies, not civilians interested in defense of life and property, or hunting. A civilian model of a weapon designed for military use is still a weapon designed for military use. Not allowing people access to weapons capable of mass destruction does not impede the right to self-defense of life and property or the right to hunt. Prohibiting access to such weapons protects life and property. Ask the dead and wounded at the movie theater in Colorado if they agree. Yes, it is true that guns do not kill people. People kill people. It is also impossible to predict and eliminate such incidents, such as the one in Colorado. However, imagine the outcome if the shooter did not have high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons. I have omitted the writer’s last paragraph because it is not related to gun control. Some observations. 1. What Moore writes could just as easily been written by James Brady, Senator Chuck Schumer, or President Obama. 2. If during the time of the Constitution everyone had access to the same weapons then what is the problem with everyone having access to the same weapons now? 3. If high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons are outlawed, then only outlaws will have high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons. 4. Was the alleged shooter at the Colorado movie theater concerned about violating federal gun laws? 5. Couldn’t the alleged shooter’s Glock .40-caliber handgun alone be capable of mass destruction? Does Moore think it should be banned as well? Why not? 6. If not allowing people access to weapons capable of mass destruction does not impede property rights, then nothing the federal government does impedes property rights. 7. Guns don’t kill people; people kill people – just as Moore says. 8. Imagine the outcome if the victims in the theater had high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons. 9. The right of self-defense includes the right to defend oneself against the greatest aggressor of life, liberty, and property in the history of the world: governments. If only governments have access to high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons, then all the talk about self-defense is meaningless. 10. If the government is going to ban high-power, high-tech, high-capacity weapons, then it ought to ban them from military use and from sales to nations with standing armies. Civilians wrongly kill far fewer people than government soldiers. 11. The Second Amendment confers no positive right. It is an additional limitation on federal power to infringe upon gun rights besides the fact that no authority is granted to the federal government by the Constitution to infringe upon them in the first place. Even if the Second Amendment only applied to non-military weapons, even if it only applied to state militias, and even if it didn’t exist, Americans would still have the natural right to keep and bear arms of any size, accuracy, or magnitude. Under the Constitution, the federal government has no authority whatsoever to ban high-power weapons, high-capacity weapons, high-tech weapons, machine guns, automatic weapons, armor-piercing bullets, "cop-killer" bullets, sawed-off shotguns, assault rifles, gun sales to felons, bazookas, armored personnel carriers, grenades, IEDs, bombs, or tanks. This is because under the Constitution, the federal government has no authority whatsoever to ban marijuana, cocaine, heroin, crack cocaine, ecstasy, meth, hazardous waste, poisons, pesticides, toxic waste, bath salts, incandescent light bulbs, pornography, absinthe, products containing dog or cat fur, drug paraphernalia, or any other substance. Permitting or prohibiting these substances is a matter for each individual state to decide. This doesn’t mean that the states should ban any or all of these substances. It just means that it is for the states to decide. This is federalism in action. Why is it that libertarians are the ones who actually believe that the relation of the federal and state governments under the Constitution should be as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 45: The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. No, military-type guns aren’t the problem. Human nature is the problem. Gun laws are the problem. Government is the problem. Guns themselves are never the problem. N.B.: This was a letter to the editor of The New American, not an editorial by The New American. September 6, 2012 Laurence M. Vance [send him mail] writes from central Florida. He is the author of Christianity and War and Other Essays Against the Warfare State, The Revolution that Wasn't, and Rethinking the Good War. His latest book is The Quatercentenary of the King James Bible. Visit his website.
Poster Comment: An unusually clear understanding of the US Constitution and BOR. The second amendment is not really necessary to our RKBA, and the common misinterpretation guns, are not the same as "arms". Bazookas, tanks, armored personel carriers, suitcase nukes, etc., are all legal, even if you haven't been elected a congressional felon.
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Here's what they have in the works if bam wins. The rampage in Aurora Colorado in which a gunman carrying an assault rifle shot 71 people within 90 seconds rekindled talk of an assault weapons ban in Washington, but no action is expected because of stiff opposition from the National Rifle Association. California Sens. Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, both Democrats, voiced their support Tuesday for renewing the assault weapons ban that was one of Feinstein’s chief accomplishments when she joined the Senate. Her weapons ban was signed by President Clinton in 1994 but expired in 2004 and has not been renewed. “Weapons of war do not belong on our streets, plain and simple,” Feinstein said. “I am considering how I might strengthen the Assault Weapons Ban that expired in 2004 and how best to move forward with that bill.” Both Senators cited the 1993 mass shooting at 101 California St. in San Francisco that lent much of the impulse for the assault weapons ban. Feinstein called for a “sane” discussion on banning assault weapons, which gun control advocates said have little connection to the 2nd amendment right to bear arms. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY, a long time gun control advocate who ran for the House after her son was shot on the Long Island Railroad, said the only reason more people were not killed in Colorado was because the 100-bullet clip jammed. McCarthy accused the NRA of scaring members into thinking that any limits on military-style guns will affect their rights. “Everyone is going to go hunting on Thanksgiving” even if assault weapons are banned, she said. She said the kind of weapon used in Colorado is made “to kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible,” and that the assault weapons ban did get rid of many of those guns. She accused the NRA of “intimidating” members of Congress. Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, D-NJ., has introduced legislation (S 32) to ban the sale or possession of large-capacity gun magazines that can hold more than 10 bullets, as was once the case in the assault weapon ban. Feinstein said she supports Lautenberg’s bill while searching for a way to move her broader ban.
Mitt has already signed a gun ban in Mass, and there's little doubt that Obama would if he gets the chance. No difference except that Mitt would have more R support for it in congress.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
#2. To: calcon, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
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