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Title: How Can Situations Like The Colorado Theatre Shooting Be Prevented?
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Published: Jul 24, 2012
Author: Dennis Marcellino
Post Date: 2012-07-24 08:00:32 by CZ82
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How Can Situations Like The Colorado Theatre Shooting Be Prevented? Written on Saturday, July 21, 2012 by Dennis Marcellino Why didn’t these things happen in the 1950’s? Why didn’t we need airport screenings then? Why didn’t people need to lock their house or car doors then? The answer is simple. There was more order then (especially in families) … which then naturally released more love and peace and security. I lived through it so I know that to be true personally. But a person can verify what I’m saying by listening to the music back then and watching the TV shows and movies. There was a different feeling in the air … even in the most impoverished communities. There was a patriotism in a country that we could be proud of and be united behind. Can we really be proud of today’s music and morals? Here’s what it boils down to. There is a greater tolerance for “sin” now. And the natural, inbred reaction to sin is anger … to “correct” it and to implement “justice.” But political correctness has not only forced people to swallow that sin, but they even are arrested or sued for trying to speak out against it. But then at some point it explodes … in situations like these and domestic violence, even to the point where adults murder their families. We’re seeing it more and more in the news, whereas I never saw it in the news when I was growing up. The immorality of today’s society has made it very difficult to create and maintain a good marriage and family. And the feelings tied to marriage and family are VERY powerful … and therefore the anger to correct also is great. The pressures of today are much greater. And pressure has to be released. But the love in a family helped people in the past. That’s why there weren’t a lot of gang murders, even in the black communities, where women were respected and people dressed nice and worked hard. But more than anything, God and His laws were respected above all else. But now we have rampant pornography and out of wedlock births. And those things tear at the family and cause the greatest pressure … in a person’s heart. So then a person either turns to violence or addictions to try to bring their internal experience to a good and not bad state. And poverty isn’t an excuse, because people were still generally civil even in the great depression. And in the Bible Paul says that he has learned to be content whether in poverty or riches. As a person who is devoted to God, I know that to also be true personally. I’m content in all situations JUST because I’m tied to and understand God. The solution is this: a happy heart doesn’t do violence. And the way to have a happy heart is to love and obey God and just be tied to people who do the same. It’s that simple. But the mainstream institutions constantly work to keep God out of the media and schools. So then kids are pressured to go along with the mainstream. So what can we do? Don’t vote for a democrat. That party is the party that promotes more and more tolerance to sin. And educate yourself and others to the realities that I’ve stated here.
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#47. To: sneakypete (#43)
Not by a public education teacher! It belongs in the home. That's what a father is for--to direct and guide his son through high growing up, formative years. Government has no place in that. They can't even control themselves, so what would make me think they could do a good job with my child?
Children with birth defects has no chance of providing for themselves. They were a luxury people just couldn't afford. For every smothered and murdered deformed or mentally retarded baby there were 100s of thousands that were not and put in homes or cared for by the families. Where is the evidence of this. I only know of ONE,and he was the only child of a upper middle-class family. He was born with a deformed arm. Basically,his left hand was attached to his elbow and it was dead. Never grew and never had any motion. BTW,how can you look at a newborn and tell he or she is retarded? Or did you just throw that in for emotional reasons? Back then there were plenty of church run and faith run homes where such children were properly cared for if the parents could not do it. MORE nonsense. These existed ONLY in the larger cities,and prior to the 1950's most Americans lived in rural areas. So the murderous midwives will have to give account for their deeds on the Last Day. And if they have not repented, it will be most horrible for them. Your kind and loving God is going to torture them for all of eternity,right? On the other hand, I am sure your mom did the right thing and reported the murderous bitch who smothered the babies at birth. Yes,she did the right thing,and kept her mouth shut about it,just like women have done since the dawn of time. You can stick your head in the sand if you want but deformed children were born, have been born and continue to be born and live. Midwives and nurses know by simple response tests if a child is mentally retarded or Downs. I don't know what house of horrors you grew up in or what "children of the corn" town you resided, but your generalizations are bunk. It is clear you condone the murder of deformed children. You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. It is all financial and convenience related. Same bogus claim the abortionists give today. Don't know where you get from my statements that God is going to torture deformed murdered by midwives babies. Those are your words, my words referred to the murderers who would put themselves above God to be their own god to make decisions on who should or should not live. The test of a just society is how they treat those with lesser means and those who cannot help themselves. Your "children of the corn" horror house town fails this test.
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
Tell us all about how YOU would take the food out of the mouth of a healthy child that was able to do the work necessary to help keep a family alive,to give it to a unhealthy/handicapped child that would never be anything but a burden on the family and the whole "tribe". And you approve of this? Where did I say this,and what does my approval OR disapproval have to do with incidents that happened decades to tens of thousands of years ago? In case you haven't noticed,conditions have changed from what they used to be even 50 years ago,never mind 500 years ago. But I can see this happening when parents, midwives and posters have no moral absolutes. What *I* see is people posing with "holier than thou" personalities because they have the ability to block out reality and replace it with "feelings" like the left has. Your posts clearly indicate you approve of the murdering of newborns who do not meet a particular standard. It has nothing to do with "holier than thou", on the other hand it has to do with obeying God's commands and Words. This has nothing to do with "feelings." It has to do with revering God and His Creation. My position is firmly tied to an absolute. You do not kill an innocent life. You do not murder. What the midwife did and your mother condoned was murder. Those that did and condoned the murder did so because they feared their lives would be changed and inconvenienced. That is selfishness and shows those people had no hope or faith in anything other than themselves. Your far out country example does not hold water. Country folk back then had cars or trucks. They had the ability to drive to the pastor or priest for help and get a deformed child to the proper care. "Tell us all about how YOU would take the food out of the mouth of a healthy child that was able to do the work necessary to help keep a family alive,to give it to a unhealthy/handicapped child that would never be anything but a burden on the family and the whole "tribe"." Your above position is clear. But at what age is the "cut off" point for smothering. Suppose the child is 3 years old and developed cancer. Did your family "ville" just drown the kid in the pond or did they try to get the kid help? Was that sensible or did they lock the kid in the basement until he or she died? Did they suffocate granny because she was going to die soon anyway and needed her food for the healthy baby? How absurd and telling this "ville" was and what it produced.
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
There is a true cause and effect you will igore, because you have a deep hatred for those who believe in God and worship Him. You have that backwards. It is the true believers that have a deep hatred for non-believers. Why not just come out and damn me to burn in hell fire for eternity while you are at it? We all know that is what you are thinking. After all,doesn't your kind and loving God say this is what happens to non-believers that don't kiss his ass and the asses of the asses that represent him? No, it was a nation that still revered and believed in God. Horseshit. You keep saying we are not built on Christian principles, I provided numerous references and you could not find one jot in response other than your opinion. I don't hate you, nor do I want to see you punished eternally. I can't do any of what you claim above, only God can. He is the Judge. My job is to point people to His Word. If they ignore or reject, the blood is not on my hands.
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
And those are the recorded accounts of families taking care of their own and working with the hand dealt to them. Even my mother growing up on a dirt poor Irish farm told me about the relatives who had conditions like the ones above. Never did murder come into the mind. Those with less abilities were loved more and protected more. She used to tell us that some winters were lean on food, but on a farm, even a poor farm, you always find ways to feed the clan.
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
Farmers wives could make filling, good tasting meals out of a little lard, flour, milk, and maybe a swish of a cow's tail through it. I lived my first 9 years in farming country. My mother could cook. When we moved to the big city, even in the toughest of times, we always had food on the table--wasn't caviar by any stretch, or filet minon, but downright good tasting and filling. When my elderly mother finally decided to move up here to be near my brother and I, we were both so excited because we couldn't wait to taste her fried chicken again. I've eaten a lot of fried chicken in my time, but hers was simply the best. Toss in some milk gravy and mashed potatoes--yeah, some of her biscuits, too, and you'd be thinking you were already in heaven.
I like Lees Famous Recipe.
I sure can't argue with that.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
And why would it? I would never presume to tell you or anyone else that you can't be religious or what your religious beliefs have to be. We are free to be anything we want in this country as long as we aren't harming anyone else,and I wouldn't change that even if I could. Just look at how boring life would be if you only talked with people that agreed with you on everything.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I agree,but we can't overlook the fact that a awful lot of boys don't have a father at home to coach them on anything,and sadly,it seems like a lot of today's mothers just can't be bothered to try to teach their children anything. And I think you would have to agree that trying to stop the spread of VD is a genuine public interest. They can,they just don't want to.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Of course they are. I'd be willing to bet a bigger percentage are born and live today than at any other time in history,other than the short period in the 50's when some drug was given to pregnant women. That one drug whose name I can't remember right now had nightmare results. They do now,but historically they didn't. I don't know what house of horrors you grew up in or what "children of the corn" town you resided, .... "Children of the corn"? Really? What does your loving God have to say about things like that? It is clear you condone the murder of deformed children. It is clear you are a idiot. You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. It is all financial and convenience related. Same bogus claim the abortionists give today. Also you are either a liar,or too stupid to recognize the difference between reporting/commenting and promoting. I'll leave it to you to pick one.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
And your posts prove why you need a religious leader to tell you how to think. Otherwise you would be playing in the traffic.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
The Love Police - Societal Controls
What a stupid thing to say. He never said one thing about condoning it. Ridiculous. Why are you lying about what he said?
. Hey Mike! Many of us can't see the video you posted. Maybe, you could be a smart poster and post the REAL link to the content of your post. What the HELL are you doing without an explicit ASCII link, anyway?
There you go, sunshine.
You don't understand the way posts work, do you? Especially when you propagate an intentional video or picture with many folks that KNOW you understand how to post?! I don't see any of that CRAP. I ONLY see ASCII text.
Google "love police" and you will find Charlie's site. I am completely disinterested in your alleged consternation. Thank you for sharing though. ;-)
No ASCII post for personal opinion? FUCK YOU!
Not today thanks. All the strippers and street walkers on strike down there are they?
Yo Holmes! What's the happs? I shouldn't use that Holmes name...with the shooting and all.
Obviously, you know something that deserves a thread of pictures and videos without personal comment. What is your personal comment, Mike? Do you have any other comment about yourself or personal perspective other than riding a bike and going to college and loving Eugene, OR, USA and voting fr 0bama other than WAYYYYYY BACK in your personal history..... you climbed a tree and was hacked?
Désolé mec, je ne parle pas anglais.
Not much. Good to see you and hope your summer is going spiffy.
Ahhhhh... such an ashamed attribute about yourself that you don't understand simple poster comments, when there is criticism about your fucked-upped posts. Lets complain to .... I know .... I know .. Moderator X.. she shall fix you up REAL TIME!
Women should be involved, too. Absolutely. I had a dear friend who was more of a father to her two sons than their own father was. The boys got to where they wouldn't even bother to ask their Dad about anything because they never kinew how he'd respond. Those boys talked to Diane about everything, and I mean everything. It takes caring.
I didn't say anything about VD. I prefer that it be taught at home, too. And again, for the same reason. We'll never have a perfect world, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying and 'just let gubmint do it'.
You're probably thinking of thalidomide...babies born without limbs sorts of things. This drug was given to women who experienced morning sickness, as I recall.
There is a lot more involved in this centrist idea that both the ONE and ONLY Republican/Democratic Party wants to admit. They have categorically: removed the idea of individual liberty concerning formal educational efforts about the once worthwhile nation other than direct control from a statist, centrist government.
I am holier then you Sneakypeter.
And it takes someone the children are able to respect.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
What's wrong with BOTH approaches? The good parents that work to raise their children can inform their children at home,and the children who don't have parents that care can get their information at school? How does it hurt your kids to get the information twice?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Yup,that was it. Some pretty scary stuff. Thanks!
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
LOL!
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
I don'tknow that 'respect' is necessarily the word to use. But I do know that it helps if someonecan pique their interest or challenges them in such a way that they don't feel they've been put down because 'they're a kid'. And total strangers can do that--so that is why I quetion the word 'respect'.
I can't trust government. Even if I believed their intent was always good. Organizations like Boys Scouts and Girl Scouts and the mentors of Boys and Girls clubs, so long as they are heterosexual and non child abusers would work for me. Or a private doctor or nurse, given the same restrictions. I would accept church groups, but DEFINITELY with the same restrictions. Even private schools would be better, with the same restrictions, as anything government coul provide. And there is no correcting government schools--all they ever do is throw more money at them and hope it works...there is no concern for the kids.
Now that is funny, AKA!!!
Ok, if name calling is how you deal with this subject, I will ask again and we can both cut through the bull. In your mother's town where they killed babies who were deformed at birth: Do you or do you not support such actions?
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
Last time I checked, I looked both ways, did not get hit and have never run over or hit a "religious leader".
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
Ok, sorry a bit rough with Children of the Corn. Maybe Harvest Home with Betty Davis is more appropriate: As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. Ridiculous. Why are you lying about what he said? Perhaps you have not been following Biff. So below are quotes from sneakypete, with a few posed questions from other posters to give context. All responses are pete's if you scroll up. Pete is also pinged. sneakypete posts on this thread regarding the smothering of children: Dee,the truth is this has always been done,ever since the dawn of time. There are only two differences. One real difference is in days of yore it was midwives smothering the babies,not doctors with a needle. That's why you didn't seem many deformed or crippled kids back in the 50's and earlier. They "died at birth". Working class people back then,especially ones in rural and farm communities just couldn't afford,in ANY sense of the word,a child that couldn't work and contribute to the family. Why wouldn't it be true? My own mother told me about this when I was a child. She had witnessed this happen when the older woman across the street gave birth to a monster back in the early 40's. She said the child was smothered at birth,and the woman who gave birth was told it was stillborn. So what? The truth is often ugly,which is why so many people lie. Granted,they are polite lies (you baby was stillborn) designed to spare someone's feelings,but lies none the less. Wrong. While there was no yowling involved,there damn sure would have been if some of those babies had been allowed to live,and that's not even addressing the burden caring for such a child would have laid on the family. Children with birth defects has no chance of providing for themselves. They were a luxury people just couldn't afford. On the other hand, I am sure your mom did the right thing and reported the murderous bitch who smothered the babies at birth. Yes,she did the right thing,and kept her mouth shut about it,just like women have done since the dawn of time. So you think these midwives were doing the family a favor by murdering their children? Of course. You are applying modern sensibilities to older realities,and feeling righteous about it. Tell us all about how YOU would take the food out of the mouth of a healthy child that was able to do the work necessary to help keep a family alive,to give it to a unhealthy/handicapped child that would never be anything but a burden on the family and the whole "tribe". XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX End of sneakypete's comments XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX So my RLH comment is this. I see no comments from SP stating this was a horrible act. In fact, he tells us above his mother did the right thing.
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
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#48. To: sneakypete (#38)
Yeah,it was. If I'm wrong,direct me to all the photos of deformed children.
#49. To: sneakypete (#39)
Of course. You are applying modern sensibilities to older realities,and feeling righteous about it.
#50. To: sneakypete (#41)
Because it's NOT a fact. We not only DON'T have a religious government,the FF's wee specific about the separation of Church and State.
#51. To: rowdee (#46)
I can also say that one finds this sort of information all the time in going thru family histories. And on census forms you oftentimes come across 'schools' or 'institutions' that have a lot of children in them with notations of their condition.
#52. To: redleghunter (#51)
#53. To: rowdee (#52)
#54. To: rowdee (#44)
I, for one, Pete, don't want any teachers leading prayer in school. They've screwed up the subjects they supposedly trained to teach. I cannot believe they would somehow do a fantastic job on something they seemingly know so little about. JMO.
#55. To: rowdee (#45)
he knows I am a Christian and that hasn't jarred our friendship
#56. To: rowdee (#47)
Not by a public education teacher! It belongs in the home. That's what a father is for--to direct and guide his son through high growing up, formative years.
#57. To: redleghunter (#48)
You can stick your head in the sand if you want but deformed children were born, have been born and continue to be born and live.
#58. To: redleghunter (#49)
Your posts clearly indicate you approve of the murdering of newborns who do not meet a particular standard.
#59. To: sneakypete (#56)
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#60. To: redleghunter (#48)
It is clear you condone the murder of deformed children.
You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed.
Say hi to your mom for me.
#61. To: Ferret Mike (#59)
#62. To: buckeroo (#61)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgqjhBGdCg&feature=player_embedded
#63. To: Ferret Mike (#62)
#64. To: buckeroo (#63)
http://www.cveitch.org/
#65. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
#66. To: buckeroo (#65)
#67. To: Ferret Mike, buckeroo (#66)
#68. To: Ferret Mike (#66)
#69. To: buckeroo (#68)
#70. To: Fred Mertz (#67)
#71. To: Ferret Mike, Moderator X (#69)
Désolé mec, je ne parle pas anglais.
#72. To: sneakypete (#56)
#73. To: sneakypete (#56)
And I think you would have to agree that trying to stop the spread of VD is a genuine public interest.
#74. To: sneakypete (#57)
#75. To: rowdee, sneakypete (#44)
I, for one, Pete, don't want any teachers leading prayer in school. They've screwed up the subjects they supposedly trained to teach. I cannot believe they would somehow do a fantastic job on something they seemingly know so little about. JMO.
It means the philosophy for the humanistic concept about free individual determinism will is subjugated by a bureaucrat eating a donut and standing at the water cooler cooler to chat about retirement in Washington DC.
#76. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#49)
#77. To: rowdee (#72)
It takes caring.
#78. To: rowdee (#73)
We'll never have a perfect world, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying and 'just let gubmint do it'.
#79. To: rowdee (#74)
You're probably thinking of thalidomide...babies born without limbs sorts of things.
#80. To: A K A Stone (#76)
I am holier then you Sneakypeter.
#81. To: sneakypete (#77)
#82. To: sneakypete (#78)
#83. To: A K A Stone (#76)
#84. To: sneakypete (#57)
You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. It is all financial and convenience related. Same bogus claim the abortionists give today.
#85. To: sneakypete (#58)
Your posts clearly indicate you approve of the murdering of newborns who do not meet a particular standard. And your posts prove why you need a religious leader to tell you how to think. Otherwise you would be playing in the traffic.
#86. To: sneakypete (#57)
Children of the corn"? Really?
#87. To: Biff Tannen, sneakypete, A K A Stone, Liberator (#60)
It is clear you condone the murder of deformed children. What a stupid thing to say. He never said one thing about condoning it.
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