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Title: President Obama Signs Order To Stop Deportation Of Young Undocumented Immigrants
Source: GUARDIAN UK
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201 ... ented-immigrants?newsfeed=true
Published: Jun 15, 2012
Author: Ed Pilkington
Post Date: 2012-06-15 11:23:51 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 72183
Comments: 112

The Obama administration has announced a dramatic move to placate the rising anger of Hispanic communities across America by offering a partial Dream Act to young law-abiding immigrants without documents who will now no longer live under the threat of deportation and will have the right to work.

The move will take effect immediately and could have an impact on 800,000 young immigrants, largely Hispanic, who came to the US as children and though hard-working and law-abiding have lived for years under the shadow of deportation.

The department of homeland security said that those who demonstrate that they meet the criteria will be eligible to be taken off the deportation list for a period of two years, subject to renewal, and will be eligible to apply for work authorization.

"Our nation's immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner," said the secretary of homeland security, Janet Napolitano. "But they are not designed to be blindly enforced without consideration given to the individual circumstances of each case. Nor are they designed to remove productive young people to countries where they may not have lived or even speak the language. Discretion, which is used in so many other areas, is especially justified here."

The Obama administration has come under growing criticism in recent months for failing to deliver on its promises to restrict deportation to the most serious criminal offenders. The disappointment expressed about the high levels of deportations has led to speculation it could damage the president's chances of being re-elected in November given the importance of the Latino voting population.

The initiative goes a large way to meeting the desire of Hispanic communities for a so-called Dream Act that would grant young undocumented Latinos a pathway to citizenship. It promises to be a significant measure in an election year in which Latino voters could prove crucial in key swing states – some 500,000 new voters are created every year when legal Hispanic youths turn 18.

The breaking news of the change in policy was received ecstatically by Latino and progressive organisations. "This is a bold move, a smart move by the White House. It relates to the most decent, innocent undocumented folks in this country and we applaud the president's initiative," said Angela Kelley, an immigration expert at the Center for American Progress.

The new deal will be open to anyone who:

• came to the US before the age of 16 and is under 30 years old;

• have continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and are present in the United States at the moment;

• are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a general education development certificate, or are honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States;

• and have not been convicted of any crimes or significant misdemeanours.

The one aspect of the Dream Act that is yet to be achieved is the right to citizenship or permanent residency for young undocumented immigrants.

Kelley said that the battle for that reform would continue. "We need Congress to step up and finish the job," she said

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#45. To: buckeroo (#40)

Are you saying that the US Constitution was buried with the founders?

At the moment only the Founders' nipples are peaking out of the dirt. What I AM saying is: 0buma is as much an option as a painful suicide.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   13:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#45)

Why did you intentionally omit Mighty Mittey the Monster of Flip/Floppers from your selected cabal of evil doers?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   13:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: hondo68 (#41)

Willard M. Romney is a reconquista, running for presidente of Aztlan.

Hondo, I respect and understand your position - believe me.

I don't disagree that Romney is a rabid statist...and pro-Mexican Invasion - as were Stain the two Arbusto Boys (see a trend here?). Yeah, this election sucks as much as either Bush election charade when the opponents were Gore and Kerry - two pompous, elitist a-holes. Look - the NWO agenda has been in the works - it's how Republicans like Bush, Stain, and Romney get the nod.

That said, Romney's not a sadistic America-hating, Whitey-hating, capitalist-hating Commie-Fascist and microwave-saboteur. He'll continue (but slow down) the script that undermines America's sovereignty, standard of living, and identity - SAME AS EITHER BUSH.

The difference though between he and the Kenyan is WE WILL WIN SOME issues and gain traction during Romney's regime; We have ZERO chance - that's 0.00% with another 4 years of 0buma. That on top of a sh*t-storm of hell that POS will be unleashing...

Live and fight another day. Romney give you (and us) another 4 years to organize for a legit Third Party candidate, as well an opportunity to re-take the GOP.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   13:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#46)

Why did you intentionally omit Mighty Mittey the Monster of Flip/Floppers from your selected cabal of evil doers?

It's a little late for me to chastise you for a lack of reading comprehension, Buck.

If you've been familiar with my posts and positions, you'd know better.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   13:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#47)

That said

Re-read your That said post, statist. You have no principles at all.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   13:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Brian S (#0)

This was all about undercutting Rubio.

Rubio was building a bi-partisan coalition for his immigration bill.

The Obama re-election campaign got scared, so they stepped into lawlessness by enacting major changes to our immigration policy through executive fiat.

The Democrat House and 60 person majority in the Senate voted the Dream Act down in 2010. Why didn't Obana act then?

This is nothing more than a cynical ploy to get re-elected.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   13:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#48)

I rarely read you, Liberator. You, IMO, don't say much at all. You have little or few standards or values or principles that you personally stand upon.

I only read your posts where you attack the LP Klougns Posse as they are often phunney and entertain me. Please go back there. An attack group of posters is rising against the LP Klougns without you there taking charge.

Statists are a problem for a nation as dynamic as America is. And for me, you have fallen into this horrible group of posters.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   13:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: TooConservative, Zesta (#19)

Rubio released a statement today saying:

"we should figure out a way to help kids who are undocumented [aka ILLEGAL INVADER ANCHOR BABIES] through no fault of their own, but there is also broad consensus that it should be done in a way that does not encourage illegal immigration in the future..."

So what Rubio is suggesting here is, "What's done-is-done. It's not illegal anchor-babies' fault that the borders aren't enforced and the US Constitution a mockery..."

Wait...Here HE is making a mockery of the Constitution while citing it as some kind of convenient referrence:

"Today’s [de facto AMNESTY-FOR-ALL] announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem. And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one.”

Marco-the-Cuban-Firster is a real cute politician; He TOTALLY support 0buma's Amnesty EO but instead just "reminds" us that he'd rather perform treasonous acts through Congress.

With respect to the "consensus" Rubio refers to AND "responsibility" -- both short & ling term -- has been to enforce the border, get the Illegal Invaders the hell out of the US and deported, and NOT to bankrupt the country by subsidizing 40 million of them.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   13:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#49)

Re-read your That said post, statist. You have no principles at all.

Either you forgot the sarcasm tag or your reading comprehension STILL remain problematic. There's even Option #3: You're not as politically saavy as you think.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   13:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: jwpegler (#50)

This was all about undercutting Rubio.

Rubio was building a bi-partisan coalition for his immigration bill.

The Obama re-election campaign got scared, so they stepped into lawlessness by enacting major changes to our immigration policy through executive fiat.

Interesting theory and observation...

So 0buma pre-empted the RINOs move to grant Amnesty?

Either way, America is getting screwed by having its goobermint un-constitutionally and illegally subsidizing 40 million illegal invaders and parasites...

Why opposing this isn't a winnable platform for the GOP is beyond absurd.

The Democrat House and 60 person majority in the Senate voted the Dream Act down in 2010. Why didn't 0buma act then?

Hmmm....Because he was already shoving 0bumaCare down everyone's throat and spending $800 gazillion on the phony stimulus to his pals?

It might have made him seem a bit greedy. /s

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   13:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Liberator (#52)

Here HE is making a mockery of the Constitution

It doesn't matter who is President or who controls the Congress, they are not going to round up upwards of 15 million people and deport them. It's not even feasible to do this without turning the country into a jack-booted police state.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Where in the Consitution does it give the federal government the power to stop you and ask for your papers? No where.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   13:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#53) (Edited)

I stand on principles. Obviously, you don't. You want Mittey the Monster? OK, go punch your chad-puncher down his dangling hole. It means nothing to me anymore. You are the epitome of modern political consciousness; you are a disgrace to America and why this nation has lost its once proud individual merits.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   14:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Liberator, CZ82, buckeroo, Capitalist Eric, We The People, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#44)


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-16   14:08:27 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: jwpegler (#55)

It doesn't matter who is President or who controls the Congress, they are not going to round up upwards of 15 million people and deport them. It's not even feasible to do this without turning the country into a jack-booted police state.

That's 40 million.

Secondly, IF they had begun the process of deporation of illegal invaders during Dubya Bush's phony "War on Terror," this mess would already have been cleaned up 8 years ago.

Yes, it is not only "feasible," but a necessary act. That is IF you still desire ONE nation under God instead of a Balkanized America that instead is an international host to 40 million parasites.

The illegal invader demographics have not only ensured the hijacking of the most important state in the Union: California, but have FUBARed the entire economy and law & order in states, towns, and neighborhoods from coast-to-coast, Canada-to-Mexico.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

That would be those of us NOT ready, willing, and able to bend over for the Statists. I guess you;re signing on, eh?

Where in the Consitution does it give the federal government the power to stop you and ask for your papers? No where.

That's hilarious!! So you opposed "stopping" the illegal invasion. Demanding ID for social services and drivers licensing? Duly noted.

We'll just ignore ALL the immigration laws, state laws, and municipal laws, ok?

By the way:

Section 1325 in Title 8 of the United States Code, "Improper entry of alien", provides for a fine, imprisonment, or both for any immigrant who:

1. enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration agents, or
2. eludes examination or inspection by immigration agents, or
3. attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.

Hey - answer THIS question: Why bother having ANY border or laws or representative government?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   14:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo (#56)

It means nothing to me anymore.

That kind of indifference might explain why you're quite willing to accept 0buma for ANOTHER Commie-Fascist 4 years.

NICE "principle" on display right there.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   14:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: hondo68 (#57)

Again Hondo, the questions here are which option is more of a liklihood between re-taking the GOP or support of a Third Party FOR THE HERE AND NOW...

a) Which is easier to facilitate?

b) Will an effective winnable Third Party be a possibility in four years? (time IS just about run out)

c) Should we allow the nation to be *totally* cratered by 0buma during the next four years in the meantime as oppose to Romney cratering *half* of it?

d) During a Romneyan Statist Presidency, is it possible that the bleeding can be stopped long enough to remove the SOME statists from within the GOP and bowels of Goob and appreciable restoration American nationalism and constitutionalism achieved?

If it's assumed the GOP can't be re-tamed from within during Romney's regime, a Third Party candidacy MUST be organized and prepared ASAP. It's a bit late now for that to happen, ain't it?

We have two choices:

1) Die today

2) Die another day

Was there a third option during this election?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   14:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#59) (Edited)

NICE "principle" on display right there.

If you vote for MITT, you have no principles; it means you are just another worthless POS poster. My principles about avoiding the other "side" of political gasbags in the American political spectrum is well-noted and shall not be explained again and again and again.

Fuck you for attempting to identify me with your 0bama_nation. You are a worthless [POS] but MITT needs your vote. Go enjoy pushing your chad-puncher into his hole.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   14:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator (#60)

Was there a third option during this election?

Absolutely, since the GOP has not nominated a candidate yet. Consider the many possibilities. They could have come up with a better candidate than "the presumptive nominee", by drawing a name out of a hat. Mitt has all of the charisma of Bob Dole, and the anti-American policies of McCain and Bush. IMO he'll lose because he's no different than Obama, and people just don't like either of them.

ABM!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-16   14:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#58) (Edited)

Yes, it is not only "feasible," but a necessary act.

Like I said, you are delusional.

Demanding ID for social services and drivers licensing? Duly noted.

You are confusing several things here. I oppose government social services. Getting a driver's license and registering to vote are voluntary acts - the government can and does put rules around participation. This is very different than requiring all Americans to carry a national id card, which is exactly where your anti-Mexican hysteria is going to lead.

Why bother having ANY border or laws...

When the U.S. was still a free country, we didn't have any border laws.

The U.S. Border Patrol was created during the Progressive era in 1915. What a surprise.

The federal income tax, Federal Reserve, The Great War (a.k.a. WWI), drug laws, forced sterilizations, Planned Parenthood, and the Border Patrol. I know that this is your kind of government, but it's not mine.

The real statists are people like you who are willing to turn the country into a police state, instead solving the real problems.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   14:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: jwpegler (#63)

The federal income tax, Federal Reserve, The Great War (a.k.a. WWI), drug laws, forced sterilizations, Planned Parenthood, and the Border Patrol. I know that this is your kind of government, but it's not mine...

The real statists are people like you who are willing to turn the country into a police state, instead solving the real problems.

If you don't have ANY laws or its enforcement you have chaos & anarchy. Is THAT what you want and who you are?

And are you telling me it's ok if Mexicans squat in your living room too and guzzling Corona in YOUR EZ-chair? What if you are unable to remove your visitors?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: hondo68 (#62)

ABM!

Great! Can't wait for President Paul's inauguration! (OR will 0buma suffice instead?)

Consider the many possibilities.

I KNOW there are possibilities, but they aren't probabilities at this point. Didn't you get the "GOP Nomination-is-Fixed" memo yet? Geez...

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-16   15:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Brian S (#0)

Borders? We don't need no stinking borders! We are all citizens of the world,comrade!

Except for the honkies,of course.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-16   15:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Liberator (#64)

If you don't have ANY laws or its enforcement you have chaos & anarchy.

So, the first 130 years of the republic were "chaos and anarchy"?

Wow, I didn't know that.

Luckily, we had Woodrow Wilson to rescue the country from that living hell.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   15:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Liberator (#64) (Edited)

And are you telling me it's ok if Mexicans squat in your living room

If anyone enters my house without permission, I'm going to shoot them in the head.

I've been reading your words very carefully.

Illegal immigration isn't your real issue.

Your real issue is anyone who isn't a white protestant.

It's very clear.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   15:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#1)

Another dictatorial EO that violates the US Constitutional (aka that G-D piece of paper).

Heh Heh Heh.....

funny......

It is nothing of the sort....

From the President's perspective it is a good political move.....

President Obama issues a largely meaningless EO - that will appeal to the Hispanic voting bloc..... that forces the gopers to marginalize the Hispanic voters....or support his position.

It's a win-win for Obama and a Lose-Lose for the republicans.......

Ok - so for all of you "seal-the-borders" pragmatists..... tell me- would you rather advocate the construction of an "East-German" style border check-point system....(and you think the TSA sexual-assault centers at the airports are bad...)- or alienate the Hispanic vote and have your party's candidates come in second........again?

Jameson  posted on  2012-06-16   16:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jameson (#69)

From the President's perspective it is a good political move.....

I agreee with you. And all the POS American presidents do this same antic. What is more important to watch is the timing of the antic. Ever notice the creeping election that is around the corner in time, wherein the same EO has no real purpose anyway?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   16:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#21)

The Elite's Fix has been IN regarding these issues - ALL of them: universal health care, gun restrictions (for "crazies" - a GOOD law, btw), creating fake wars, the Patriot Act, TARP, allowing the illegal invasion, colluding with the Federal Reserve, shipping the economy off in a coffin to China, etc ad nauseam.

That said, how and why do you and others continue to rationalize, discount and dismiss the ongoing Scorched Earth policy of 0buma & Co. while presuming Romney will continue 0buma's SAME policies?

I haven't personally, and haven't seen anyone (on the right that is) here even attempt to rationalize, discount and dismiss the ongoing Scorched Earth policy of 0buma & Co.

As far as "presuming Romney will continue 0buma's SAME policies".... you said it yourself when you said, "The Elite's Fix has been IN regarding these issues - ALL of them."

Yes, we will bleed under Romney.

Yes. You vote for that, then you own it.

Sometime, somewhere, Americans have got to stop voting for that. Not this time you say? Then when?

I stopped in 2008 and I will not ever vote for that again.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-16   16:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: buckeroo (#70)

What is more important to watch is the timing of the antic...

yeah......

Look for several more major policy announcements before November......

Including a deal on the Keystone XL pipeline....which will promise tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands??) of jobs and big pay-offs for the oil companies already invested in the project.

Political theater at its best!

Jameson  posted on  2012-06-16   17:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jameson (#72)

Political theater at its best!

Always keep that point in mind. It is always phunney. What is not so phunney, little or nothing is accomplished by the acts of American governance these days other than higher taxes, increased and continuing foreign involvement and a lesser quality of life in America beyond the loss of individual liberties.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   17:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jameson (#69)

advocate the construction of an "East-German" style border check-point system....(and you think the TSA sexual-assault centers at the airports are bad...)

If we had a law abiding president, border crossings would be nothing like TSA checkpoints. All they need to check is citizenship, and taxable goods. Since all arms are legal and protected under the second amendment, no groping or X-ray needed at all.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-16   17:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: hondo68 (#74)

If we had a law abiding president ...

When in your own lifetime have YOU are anyone seen a "law abiding president?" There never was such a person or institution or administration.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   17:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: buckeroo (#75) (Edited)

When in your own lifetime have YOU are anyone seen a "law abiding president?"

Ford was a law abiding guy. He also vetoed 5 times as many bills in his 2 1/2 years in office than Bush vetoed in 8 years.

Ford doesn't get enough credit for defending the country from the 1974 Democrat class of crazies.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   17:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Brian S (#0)

whyofcourse  posted on  2012-06-16   18:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: jwpegler (#76)

Ford was a law abiding guy.

Yeah. Did any objective evidence PROVE his pardons?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   18:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Liberator (#1)

Another dictatorial EO that violates the US Constitutional (aka that G-D piece of paper).

Yukon says the Constitution is obsolete because of electronics.

LOLAYDS (Laugh Out Loud At Yukon Drinking Sperm)

nativist nationalist  posted on  2012-06-16   20:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#78) (Edited)

Did any objective evidence PROVE his pardons?

Pardons ARE LEGAL, PERIOD. No evidence is needed. They are part of the LAW.

You were bellyaching about how all Presidents are lawless.

Tell us all how Ford broke the LAW.

You can't, because he didn't.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   20:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: jwpegler (#80)

jwpegler: Ford was a law abiding guy.

buckeroo: Did any objective evidence PROVE his pardons?

jwpegler: Pardons are part of the LAW.

Or abuse of power. It depends on how one may think of the world.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   20:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: buckeroo (#81)

Or abuse of power. It depends on how one may think of the world.

Completely wrong.

Presidents have the absolute authority UNDER THE LAW to pardon whomever they want.

You said that ALL Presidents are lawless.

PROVE your claim.

You can't.

You may disagree with article 2 section 2 of the Constitution. If you disagree with the Constitution, then just say so. But don't accuse someone of being a criminal because they exercised their Constitutional power to pardon someone.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-16   21:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: jwpegler (#82)

Presidents have the absolute authority UNDER THE LAW to pardon whomever they want.

That doesn't make their decisions correct or moral or ethical in the eyes of the People. Pardoning Nixon was treasonable. The Congress has no will to prosecute the idiot though. Most people wanted an end of Nixon in the public eye.

It is the never-ending double standard about American justice.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-16   21:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#83) (Edited)

That doesn't make their decisions correct or moral or ethical

Moral and ethical has nothing to do with legal. You said that there weren't any law abiding Presidents.

Pardoning Nixon was treasonable

No, it was not. It may have been politically stupid, but it he had the authority under the Constitution to do so.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-17   10:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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