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The Water Cooler Title: If anyone wants their IP info purged let me know I will purge anyones ip info if they want it purged. It will build up again over time but the past ip numbers will be deleted. Just ask. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 39. How does this work?
#9. To: Serenissima Venezia, A K A Stone (#6) How does this work? Most likely as Neil outlined above, you're granted "Trusted" status in the software settings, so it's not just a one time purge but a continuous process. Is this correct Stone? Please add me to the elite "Trusted" group.
#14. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#9) Please add me to the elite "Trusted" group. You're no more elitey or Trusty than I am! I hope you all realize that if anyone here is a target of NSA/FBI, the feds will be recording and storing every packet in and out of here. They are tied directly to every internet backbone as we've known since the Bush era. Purging the logs may provide limited protection against subpoenas in a lawsuit, like a libel lawsuit. But no one is posting their real identity here. If they did, I'd recommend that Stone ban them. There is a rising issue over online libel and making everyone stay anonymous is the best protection. Given that Stone is allowing Google (and others) to spider-search this site to add the results to their search engine, that means it's all available for a number of years in the Google cache and Coral and others. If we were federal targets in a serious investigation, either Stone and/or Neil would be issued national security letters to force them to allow access and to never tell anyone, including the target or to complain to any court about it (since that might tip off the target). And being located overseas doesn't make you safe either unless you're in a major hostile nation that won't extradite (Russia, China, etc.). But most any country would sell you out or they have an extradition treaty. You simply cannot be too paranoid online any more. Sad really. If you're thinking this all sounds a bit too much like a world government that is also a totally wired Big Brother, well...yep.
#36. To: TooConservative (#14) I hope you all realize that if anyone here is a target of NSA/FBI, the feds will be recording and storing every packet in and out of here. They are tied directly to every internet backbone as we've known since the Bush era. Yes, that seems to be the case, which is the reason why the web site (all websites, actually) be encrypted. The feds then would still be able to see where info is coming from/going to, but they won't know what the information is.
Given that Stone is allowing Google (and others) to spider-search this site to add the results to their search engine, that means it's all available for a number of years in the Google cache and Coral and others. All that's available is the postings and the screen name that posted it, which is available directly from this site anyway (unless/until the site is taken down). Not the IP addr info of the poster. That info isn't available to google, as you know.
If we were federal targets in a serious investigation, either Stone and/or Neil would be issued national security letters to force them to allow access and to never tell anyone, including the target or to complain to any court about it (since that might tip off the target). Sure, but if I don't have the info they seek, then there's nothing I/they can do with their letters. And these letters cannot compel me to modify something to gain information, as that would basically be a recruitment into their spy ranks. They can only use them to try to gain information I already have. If IP information is not in my possession, then I won't have info to give them and it's end of story. And without a law requiring me or Stone to retain that information, there's nothing they can (legally) do to me or him. This software offers a "Trusted" status that site owners are free to make use of just like every other feature. If it's illegal, show me the law. (And the jurisdiction to enforce it).
#39. To: Pinguinite (#36) And without a law requiring me or Stone to retain that information, there's nothing they can (legally) do to me or him. This software offers a "Trusted" status that site owners are free to make use of just like every other feature. If it's illegal, show me the law. Good answers. Anyway, it's been a good discussion of what our beloved masters are up to, what they're capable of, and why we should keep in mind that nothing on the web is anonymous. Nothing.
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