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Title: Pastor Sentenced To 2 Years In Prison For Teaching That Parents Should Spank Their Children
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The American Dream
URL Source: http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar ... ts-should-spank-their-children
Published: May 30, 2012
Author: Michael Snyder
Post Date: 2012-05-30 13:09:54 by Hondo68
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Keywords: forbidden contact with church, freedom of speech attacked, teachings of the Bible
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Comments: 7
Do you believe that parents should be able to spank their children? Do you ever express that opinion to others? If so, then you could be sent to prison. Sadly, that is exactly what happened to one pastor up in Wisconsin recently. A minister named Philip Caminiti was sentenced to 2 years in prison for simply teaching that parents should spank their children when they misbehave. Please note that Caminiti was not accused of spanking anyone or of physically hurting anyone. He was put in prison simply for his speech. He was put in prison simply for what he was teaching others to do. Whether you agree with spanking or not, this should be incredibly sobering for all of us. Increasingly, speech is being penalized in the United States. Much of the time, the focus of the attacks by the forces of political correctness is on religious speech. If this trend continues, many of you that are reading this article might be put in jail for the things that you say in the coming years. When many of us were growing up, once in a while our parents would take out a belt or a wooden paddle and give us a paddling on the behind when we did something wrong. Was there anything wrong with that? Of course not. Yes, there is real child abuse that goes on out there, but in the vast majority of instances spanking does not do any lasting physical harm. Rather, it benefits the child because it helps them learn what is right and what is wrong. I know that when I got a licking on the behind as a child that helped me to remember not to do the same thing again. But Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi was absolutely horrified that some parents would actually use a wooden spoon to spank their little children when they misbehaved. Perhaps that judge should actually try to spank someone with a wooden spoon some time. You simply cannot do much damage with a wooden spoon. Instead of going after the parents who were doing the spanking, prosecutors chose to go after the pastor instead. They claimed that Caminiti was "the spoke in the wheel of this conspiracy". Even after Caminiti leaves prison, he will be forbidden from having any contact with his old church.... Caminiti will be on extended supervision for six years after his release from prison. Despite objections on constitutional grounds by Caminiti's lawyers, Sumi ordered that he not have any contact with the Aleitheia Bible Church and have no leadership role in any church. What in the world is happening to this country? Criminal predators are literally eating the faces off of people, and yet authorities want to go after pastors that are encouraging their congregations to follow the teachings of the Bible? Have we stepped into a really bizarre episode of The Twilight Zone? Sadly, this is not the only example of how our free speech is under attack these days. Up in New York, a new bill was recently introduced that would outlaw all "mean-spirited and baseless political attacks". I think that would cover a whole lot of people that leave comments on my blog. The following is how a recent article by Kurt Nimmo described what this new law would require.... New York state government is attempting to pass the measure in both the Senate and the Assembly. The legislation has been referred to the Codes Committee in the Senate, and the Government Operations Committee in the Assembly. Both proposals are identical and would effect messages posted on message boards, blogs, social networks, and “any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages.” The law would require websites to post email addresses for “removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.” Those demanding the removal of content they find objectionable, however, would have their anonymity protected. “Had the internet been around in the late 1700s, perhaps the anonymously written Federalist Papers would have to be taken down unless Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay revealed themselves,” notes David Kravets, writing for Wired. Will we soon see laws such as this nationwide? Will all blogs and websites soon be at the mercy of the politically correct police? Up in Buffalo, New York it is apparently now against the law to hand out Christian tracts on a public sidewalk. At least that is what one man was told recently when he attempted to hand out tracts outside of an Italian heritage festival. The following is from a recent WorldNetDaily article.... While handing out tracts to willing recipients on a public street during a public festival, Owen was approached by a police officer who declined to identify himself but told him that the Buffalo Police Department is “the law” and he should stop handing out tracts. According to the lawsuit: “Subsequently, another police officer, Officer Slomka, arrived on the scene. She quickly informed Owen that they could not hand out tracts in the festival and explained that the prohibition was ‘by our orders.’ Owen asked for her name, and she replied: ‘Slomka, write it down.’ Owen advised that he believed the tracts to be free speech; nonplussed, Officer Slomka reiterated that they couldn’t hand out tracts there and had to go outside of the festival area to continue with their expressive activity.” Then, “Owen inquired as to whether they would be arrested if they continued to hand out tracts in the festival area, to which, Officer Slomka replied: ‘Yes.’” That almost makes me angry enough to take a trip over to Buffalo and hand out tracts right outside the police station. Even if you do not ever distribute literature, you should be alarmed at how our freedom of speech is being eroded. The truth is that whenever anyone has their freedom of speech attacked it is an attack on all of us. If we are not careful, we are going to end up just like Canada. At one high school up in Canada recently, a student was suspended from school for a week for wearing a shirt with the following message.... "Life is wasted without Jesus" The student was told that the shirt was "hate talk" and that he would be suspended for the rest of the year if he tried to wear it to school again. They are coming for our free speech ladies and gentlemen. They are not going to be satisfied until they have either shut all of us up or put all of us in prison. It is imperative that we all stand up for free speech while we still can. Once our freedom of speech is gone, the loss of the rest of our freedoms will only be a matter of time. Poster Comment: The judge wasn't beaten enough by his parents and teachers, and turned into a progressive jack booted thug.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
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LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. 'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry
This just doesn't seem possible in America. It's the type of thing that if somebody were to tell you are about it,you would dismiss it as a internet rumor. Please note that as far as the story goes the man wasn't jailed for promoting actual child abuse or actually beating the children. Anybody with any common sense knows the difference between spanking/discipline and beating/abuse.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
According to this report the police had to intervene because children as young as 2 months were being hit for simply crying. Go forth and read it.
There's no getting past the fact that all he did was teach the Bible. The nanny state libtards freaked out and charged him with "conspiracy". The state doesn't own those kids. If any real child abuse occurred, they would have charged the parents. They had no case! It's a BS attack on religion. IMO
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
The practice, intended to teach children to behave correctly, was stopped after police intervened in November 2010. "The children were beaten for of all things doing what children do, and that is crying," Sumi said." Read more: host.madison.com/wsj/news...2963f4.html#ixzz1wP2VBhcX This is the money quote from the report on this and not the web site that put this story out. The fact is, they didn't arrest anyone for spanking their children, they arrested this pastor for teaching corporal punishment, which the Bible does say to use. "Spare the Rod, spoil the child". So they had no business doing this. There was no crime that he nor any member of the church, that were accused of beating their children. If there was, they would have said so. Right?
I think that's bullshit added to get a conviction. How stupid would you have to be to hit a crying infant to try to make them quit crying? Infants don't understand what "stop crying!" means,but they do cry when smacked. All they are going to do is cry more if you hit them. Infants cry to get attention because they need something. Take care of their needs and then pick them up and hold them for a short time,and they stop crying unless something is really wrong. Who doesn't know this?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
How about vice versa??? She might find out she likes it, and could add it to the list of fetishs she currently partakes in.....
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#2. To: hondo68, *Bill of Rights-Constitution*, *Religious History and Issues*, *Crime and Corruption* (#0)
#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
host.madison.com/wsj/news...e1-94c4-0019bb2963f4.html
#4. To: SJN, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#3)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#5. To: hondo68 (#4)
"Caminiti was found guilty by a jury in March of eight counts of conspiracy to commit child abuse for teaching church members what he said was a literal interpretation of discipline prescribed by the Bible, on children who were between the ages of 2 months and 5 years.
#6. To: SJN (#3)
According to this report the police had to intervene because children as young as 2 months were being hit for simply crying. Go forth and read it.
#7. To: hondo68 (#0)
Perhaps that judge should actually try to spank someone with a wooden spoon some time.
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