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The GOSPEL of the ALIENS | Fallen Angels | Giants | Anunnaki The IMAGE of the BEAST Revealed (REV 13) - WARNING: Not for Everyone Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Historical See other Historical Articles Title: HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868 Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.usmemorialday.org/order11.html Published: May 26, 2012 Author: General John Logan, national commander o Post Date: 2012-05-26 02:00:24 by Mad Dog Keywords: ALL, of, them Views: 62014 Comments: 116 **** HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868 The 30th day of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet church-yard in the land. In this observance no form of ceremony is prescribed, but posts and comrades will in their own way arrange such fitting services and testimonials of respect as circumstances may permit. We are organized, comrades, as our regulations tell us, for the purpose among other things, "of preserving and strengthening those kind and fraternal feelings which have bound together the soldiers, sailors, and marines who united to suppress the late rebellion." What can aid more to assure this result than cherishing tenderly the memory of our heroic dead, who made their breasts a barricade between our country and its foes? Their soldier lives were the reveille of freedom to a race in chains, and their deaths the tattoo of rebellious tyranny in arms. We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance. All that the consecrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their adornment and security is but a fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders. Let no wanton foot tread rudely on such hallowed grounds. Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going of reverent visitors and fond mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice or neglect, no ravages of time testify to the present or to the coming generations that we have forgotten as a people the cost of a free and undivided republic. If other eyes grow dull, other hands slack, and other hearts cold in the solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light and warmth of life remain to us. Let us, then, at the time appointed gather around their sacred remains and garland the passionless mounds above them with the choicest flowers of spring-time; let us raise above them the dear old flag they saved from hishonor; let us in this solemn presence renew our pledges to aid and assist those whom they have left among us a sacred charge upon a nation's gratitude, the soldier's and sailor's widow and orphan. It is the purpose of the Commander-in-Chief to inaugurate this observance with the hope that it will be kept up from year to year, while a survivor of the war remains to honor the memory of his departed comrades. He earnestly desires the public press to lend its friendly aid in bringing to the notice of comrades in all parts of the country in time for simultaneous compliance therewith. Department commanders will use efforts to make this order effective. By order of JOHN A. LOGAN, Commander-in-Chief N.P. CHIPMAN, Adjutant General Official: WM. T. COLLINS, A.A.G. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All (#0) * Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service. There are many stories as to its actual beginnings, with over two dozen cities and towns laying claim to being the birthplace of Memorial Day. There is also evidence that organized women's groups in the South were decorating graves before the end of the Civil War: a hymn published in 1867, "Kneel Where Our Loves are Sleeping" by Nella L. Sweet carried the dedication "To The Ladies of the South who are Decorating the Graves of the Confederate Dead" (Source: Duke University's Historic American Sheet Music, 1850-1920). While Waterloo N.Y. was officially declared the birthplace of Memorial Day by President Lyndon Johnson in May 1966, it's difficult to prove conclusively the origins of the day. It is more likely that it had many separate beginnings; each of those towns and every planned or spontaneous gathering of people to honor the war dead in the 1860's tapped into the general human need to honor our dead, each contributed honorably to the growing movement that culminated in Gen Logan giving his official proclamation in 1868. It is not important who was the very first, what is important is that Memorial Day was established. Memorial Day is not about division. It is about reconciliation; it is about coming together to honor those who gave their all. Memorial Day was officially proclaimed on 5 May 1868 by General John Logan, national commander of the Grand Army of the Republic, in his General Order No. 11, and was first observed on 30 May 1868, when flowers were placed on the graves of Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. The first state to officially recognize the holiday was New York in 1873. By 1890 it was recognized by all of the northern states. The South refused to acknowledge the day, honoring their dead on separate days until after World War I (when the holiday changed from honoring just those who died fighting in the Civil War to honoring Americans who died fighting in any war). It is now celebrated in almost every State on the last Monday in May (passed by Congress with the National Holiday Act of 1971 (P.L. 90 - 363) to ensure a three day weekend for Federal holidays), though several southern states have an additional separate day for honoring the Confederate war dead: January 19 in Texas, April 26 in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Mississippi; May 10 in South Carolina; and June 3 (Jefferson Davis' birthday) in Louisiana and Tennessee. In 1915, inspired by the poem "In Flanders Fields," Moina Michael replied with her own poem: We cherish too, the Poppy red That grows on fields where valor led, It seems to signal to the skies That blood of heroes never dies. She then conceived of an idea to wear red poppies on Memorial day in honor of those who died serving the nation during war. She was the first to wear one, and sold poppies to her friends and co-workers with the money going to benefit servicemen in need. Later a Madam Guerin from France was visiting the United States and learned of this new custom started by Ms.Michael and when she returned to France, made artificial red poppies to raise money for war orphaned children and widowed women. This tradition spread to other countries. In 1921, the Franco-American Children's League sold poppies nationally to benefit war orphans of France and Belgium. The League disbanded a year later and Madam Guerin approached the VFW for help. Shortly before Memorial Day in 1922 the VFW became the first veterans' organization to nationally sell poppies. Two years later their "Buddy" Poppy program was selling artificial poppies made by disabled veterans. In 1948 the US Post Office honored Ms Michael for her role in founding the National Poppy movement by issuing a red 3 cent postage stamp with her likeness on it. Traditional observance of Memorial day has diminished over the years. Many Americans nowadays have forgotten the meaning and traditions of Memorial Day. At many cemeteries, the graves of the fallen are increasingly ignored, neglected. Most people no longer remember the proper flag etiquette for the day. While there are towns and cities that still hold Memorial Day parades, many have not held a parade in decades. Some people think the day is for honoring any and all dead, and not just those fallen in service to our country. There are a few notable exceptions. Since the late 50's on the Thursday before Memorial Day, the 1,200 soldiers of the 3d U.S. Infantry place small American flags at each of the more than 260,000 gravestones at Arlington National Cemetery. They then patrol 24 hours a day during the weekend to ensure that each flag remains standing. In 1951, the Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts of St. Louis began placing flags on the 150,000 graves at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery as an annual Good Turn, a practice that continues to this day. More recently, beginning in 1998, on the Saturday before the observed day for Memorial Day, the Boys Scouts and Girl Scouts place a candle at each of approximately 15,300 grave sites of soldiers buried at Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania National Military Park on Marye's Heights (the Luminaria Program). And in 2004, Washington D.C. held its first Memorial Day parade in over 60 years. To help re-educate and remind Americans of the true meaning of Memorial Day, the "National Moment of Remembrance" resolution was passed on Dec 2000 which asks that at 3 p.m. local time, for all Americans "To voluntarily and informally observe in their own way a Moment of remembrance and respect, pausing from whatever they are doing for a moment of silence or listening to 'Taps." The Moment of Remembrance is a step in the right direction to returning the meaning back to the day. What is needed is a full return to the original day of observance. Set aside one day out of the year for the nation to get together to remember, reflect and honor those who have given their all in service to their country. But what may be needed to return the solemn, and even sacred, spirit back to Memorial Day is for a return to its traditional day of observance. Many feel that when Congress made the day into a three-day weekend in with the National Holiday Act of 1971, it made it all the easier for people to be distracted from the spirit and meaning of the day. As the VFW stated in its 2002 Memorial Day address: "Changing the date merely to create three-day weekends has undermined the very meaning of the day. No doubt, this has contributed greatly to the general public's nonchalant observance of Memorial Day." www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.htm l Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: All (#0) * Decoration Day * Sleep, comrades, sleep and rest On this Field of the Grounded Arms, Where foes no more molest, Nor sentry's shot alarms! * Ye have slept on the ground before, And started to your feet At the cannon's sudden roar, Or the drum's redoubling beat. * But in this camp of Death No sound your slumber breaks; Here is no fevered breath, No wound that bleeds and aches. * All is repose and peace, Untrampled lies the sod; The shouts of battle cease, It is the Truce of God! * Rest, comrades, rest and sleep! The thoughts of men shall be As sentinels to keep Your rest from danger free. * Your silent tents of green We deck with fragrant flowers; Yours has the suffering been, The memory shall be ours. * Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: All (#0) * In Flanders Fields * In Flanders Fields the poppies blow Between the crosses row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. * We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. * Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. * Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918) Canadian Army Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: All (#0) * The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner * From my mother's sleep I fell into the State, And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose. * Randall Jarrell Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: All (#0) * Remember * Remember me when I am gone away, Gone far away into the silent land; When you can no more hold me by the hand, Nor I half turn to go yet turning stay. * Remember me when no more day by day You tell me of our future that you plann'd: Only remember me; you understand It will be late to counsel then or pray. * Yet if you should forget me for a while And afterwards remember, do not grieve: For if the darkness and corruption leave A vestige of the thoughts that once I had, * Better by far you should forget and smile Than that you should remember and be sad. * CHRISTINA ROSSETTI Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   3:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Mad Dog (#5) House Bill HR. 4133. www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr4133 Senate Bill: S. 2165 www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s2165 The U.S.-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 is now under review by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. … Click for Full Text! #1. To: Peo111 (#0) If we survive, the Archives will be full of the following. Replace the Leading Characters/Nations with Today's USSA/Israel fools....;} World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes www.gwpda.org/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ... World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ... REPROVES GERMAN AGITATORS.; Kaiser's Ambassador to ... query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res... You +1'd this publicly. Undo ... says the Vienna correspondent of The Times. In speaking at the German colony s banquet in celebration of the Kaiser's birthday, the Ambassador tendered ... First World War.com - Primary Documents - Kaiser Wilhelm on ... www.firstworldwar.com/sou...kaiserscomments.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Kaiser Wilhelm II and sons Reproduced below are a series of telegrams sent by Baron Tschirschky - German ambassador in Vienna - to the German Kaiser, ... Trenches on the Web - Timeline: Jul-1914: The July Crisis www.worldwar1.com/tlplot.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 15, 2000 – German Ambassador to Vienna, Count Heinrich von Tschirschky, warns ... The twenty day cruise had been planned for months and the Kaiser ... mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:23:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: Peo111 (#0) Charlie Madison via Arthur Silber...powerofnarrative blog: "Many Americans, at least those who prefer to think of themselves as intelligent and well-informed, are willing to laugh at their own idiocies. They are not so ready to admit that their desperately loved self-conception, an idealized view of themselves and their country that they cling to with the neurotic terror of the criminal who fears exposure at any moment, disguises a fact that has assumed awful, overwhelming clarity to much of the rest of the world: that Americans are among the most vicious killers who have ever lived. "It’s not war that’s unnatural to us – it’s virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved. ... I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is. And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies. It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. mcgowanjm mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:26:56 ET mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: mcgowanjm (#6) My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. Then why do you shit on his memory here? On a thread about a day that has ALWAYS had only ONE reason to exist, which is to HONOR AND REMEMBER ALL WHO HAVE DIED IN THE SERVICE. Including your alleged brother. You want to spew your libTURD crap do it elsewhere. Your brother was worth more than 300 MILLIONS of YOU creep. Of your own brother's death you gibber, "NO SPECIAL HEROISM INVOLVED"? You are foul beyond words. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   12:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: mcgowanjm, mad dog (#6) My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation. Have some respect for an american patriot you pig. Veterans die year after year protecting your right to run your stupid fucking mouth. You're an ASSHOLE. "And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace" calcon  posted on  2012-05-26   12:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Mad Dog (#7) He's a fucking pig. "And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace" calcon  posted on  2012-05-26   12:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: calcon (#9) He's a fucking pig. . I agree. But I do think that we need to apologize to pigs who suffer in the comparison. For them ALL, thank you. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   13:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Mad Dog, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#0) Raul (Roy) Perez Benavidez (August 5, 1935 – November 29, 1998) was a member of the Studies and Observations Group of the United States Army. He received the Medal of Honor for his actions in combat near Lộc Ninh, South Vietnam on May 2, 1968. In 1952, during the Korean War, Benavidez enlisted in the Texas Army National Guard. In June 1955, he enlisted in the regular United States Army. He married Hilaria Coy in 1959, the year he completed his airborne training and was assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg. In 1965 he was sent to South Vietnam as an advisor to an ARVN infantry regiment. He stepped on a land mine during a patrol and was evacuated to the United States, where doctors at Brooke Army Medical Center (BAMC) thought he would never walk again. Despite serious injury to his spine, Benavidez walked out of the hospital in July 1966, his wife at his side.[citation needed] Benavidez returned to Fort Bragg to begin training for the elite Studies and Observations Group (SOG). Despite continuing pain from his wounds, he became a member of the 5th Special Forces Group and returned to South Vietnam in January 1968. On May 2, 1968, a 12-man Special Forces team was surrounded by a NVA battalion. Benavidez heard the radio appeal for help and boarded a helicopter to respond. Armed only with a knife, he jumped from the helicopter carrying a medical bag and rushed to join the trapped team. Benavidez "distinguished himself by a series of daring and extremely glorious actions... and because of his gallant choice to join voluntarily his comrades who were in critical straits, to expose himself constantly to withering enemy fire, and his refusal to be stopped despite numerous severe wounds, saved the lives of at least eight men." He was believed dead after finally being evacuated and was being zipped up in a body bag when he mustered the last of his strength and spit in the face of a medic, thereby alerting nearby medical personnel that he was still alive. (see medal citation below) Nearly dead from a total of 37 separate bayonet, bullet and shrapnel wounds received on multiple occasions over the course of the six hour fight between the 13 men and an enemy battalion,[1] Benavidez was evacuated once again to Brooke Army Medical Center, where he eventually recovered. For his heroism, the Army awarded him the Distinguished Service Cross. In 1973, after more detailed accounts became available, Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel Ralph R. Drake insisted that Benavidez receive the Medal of Honor. By then, however, the time limit on the medal had expired. An appeal to Congress resulted in an exemption for Benavidez, but the Army Decorations Board still denied him the Medal of Honor. The board required an eyewitness account from someone present during the action, but Benavidez thought that no others were alive who had been at the "Six Hours in Hell."[citation needed] In 1980, however, Brian O'Connor, a radioman in the attacked Special Forces team, provided a ten-page report of the engagement. O'Connor had been severely wounded (Benavidez had believed him dead), and was evacuated to the United States before his superiors could fully debrief him. O'Connor learned that Benavidez was alive by chance. He had been living in the Fiji Islands and was on holiday in Australia when he read a newspaper account of Benavidez from an El Campo newspaper. It had been picked up by the international press and reprinted in Australia. O'Connor soon contacted his old friend and submitted his report, confirming the accounts already provided by others and providing the missing eyewitness. On February 24, 1981, President Ronald Reagan presented Roy Benavidez the Medal of Honor. Reagan reportedly turned to the press and said: "If the story of his heroism were a movie script, you would not believe it". He then read the official award citation.[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Benavidez Whenever any of us think that life is hard and nobody cares about anybody else,remember reading this and give Roy a thought. If you can't be inspired by him you have no soul and are hopeless. Roy may be one of the most outstanding examples of what made America great,but he's not the only one. Others may have only served right here in the United States ,but they still served,they still gave up a part of their life to serve,and they all knew they could have been called at any time to go into actual combat. All this in order to preserve America and her freedoms,and to allow your children to grow up to enjoy the same life you had. So,it doesn't really matter if it Roy you think of today or your uncle that served as a cook at a stateside training facility. They all served and they all did their part to protect and preserve America. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   13:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Mad Dog (#0) Here this is appropriate..... Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one… CZ82  posted on  2012-05-26   13:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: sneakypete, ALL (#11) Whenever any of us think that life is hard and nobody cares about anybody else,remember reading this and give Roy a thought. If you can't be inspired by him you have no soul and are hopeless. Roy may be one of the most outstanding examples of what made America great,but he's not the only one. Others may have only served right here in the United States ,but they still served,they still gave up a part of their life to serve,and they all knew they could have been called at any time to go into actual combat. All this in order to preserve America and her freedoms,and to allow your children to grow up to enjoy the same life you had. So,it doesn't really matter if it Roy you think of today or your uncle that served as a cook at a stateside training facility. They all served and they all did their part to protect and preserve America. . We are blessed to have such men among us. They await us in the halls of our ancestors. THEY have done their duty and much more. I am not worthy of speaking their names. For them ALL. Amen. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   14:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: mcgowanjm (#6) They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. mcgowanjm You don't think it required an immense amount or courage to storm ashore at Anzio while under fire from dug in heavy and light machine gun positions,artillery fire,mortar fire,and rifle fire? And you should also know that the majority of the acts of bravery are never recognized because of no witnesses or all the witnesses dying. Or even lost paperwork. Read the Medal of Honor citation for Roy Benavidez that I just posted on this thread and take note that it took years for him to get the award he so richly deserved,and that he was lucky he ever got it because he was in a covert unit instead of a regular army unit. Another SOG MoH winner (Bob Howard) was put in for a Medal of Honor on THREE separate occasions before he finally got one. Soooo,don't assume a man is not a hero just because he isn't wearing one of the ribbons. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   14:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: sneakypete (#14) Read the Medal of Honor citation for Roy Benavidez that I just posted on this thread and take note that it took years for him to get the award he so richly deserved So did you ever get to meet him???? I did one time when he came to talk to us about Leadership and Integrity... Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one… CZ82  posted on  2012-05-26   14:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: sneakypete (#11) He was believed dead after finally being evacuated and was being zipped up in a body bag when he mustered the last of his strength and spit in the face of a medic, thereby alerting nearby medical personnel that he was still alive. (see medal citation below) Nearly dead from a total of 37 separate bayonet, bullet and shrapnel wounds received on multiple occasions over the course of the six hour fight between the 13 men and an enemy battalion, Incredible stuff in his heroics and will to survive. I've seen it before over the years and thanks for the fresh reminder of his story. Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-26   14:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: CZ82, ALL (#12) Here this is appropriate..... HERE RESTS IN HONORED GLORY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER KNOWN BUT TO GOD Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   14:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: CZ82 (#15) So did you ever get to meet him???? Yeah,we were casual friends at Bragg. He went to VN and all of this had already happened before I got to SOG. I heard about it once I got there,though. Everybody that knew him had heard about it and were in awe of his actions. I still get the shivers just thinking about going in on a hot LZ on a Brightlight Operation,and that's loaded for bear with a full team,never mind going in alone and armed only with a Bowie knife. As they used to say in frontier times,"THERE's a man with the bark on him!" "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   14:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Fred Mertz (#16) Nearly dead from a total of 37 separate bayonet, bullet and shrapnel wounds received on multiple occasions over the course of the six hour fight between the 13 men and an enemy battalion, Incredible stuff in his heroics and will to survive. Yeah,and I don't think that even counts the burns he got rescuing the crew and passengers from the first chopper that got in and flew out with the wounded and got shot down. As shot up as he was,he dragged them all out of the burning helicopter and dragged them to safety,and then loaded them all up again on the next helicopter that came in. AND....,IMHO the most appropriate ending to this action was as he loaded the last of the wounded on the last helicopter out before he got in himself,a NVA came running around the tail boom with a satchel charge to throw into the chopper,and Roy killed him with his Bowie knife. In fact,the knife was still sticking out of the NVA's chest when the helicopter flew away. Hollywood is completely nuts if they don't make movies about him and Bob Howard. Not only wouldn't they have to make anything up,they might have to omit some of the things these men really did to make it believable. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   14:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: sneakypete (#14) You don't think it required an immense amount or courage to storm ashore at Anzio while under fire from dug in heavy and light machine gun positions,artillery fire,mortar fire,and rifle fire? Sure. Know the people who did Anzio. As well as those that did the Battle of the Bulge And btw, it wasn't 'Nuts to you' on that message to the German Commander from the US Bastogne Commander....;} The Best Evidence on how War is cleaned up for the farscicly deluded innocent American back home. I'm talking about the Very Few Captains of Industry sitting behind their comfortable desks who are sending these boys into the meat grinder. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: sneakypete (#14) And you should also know that the majority of the acts of bravery are never recognized because of no witnesses or all the witnesses dying. Or even lost paperwork. And the fact that they lost that engagement which does nothing for the war effort back home....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: sneakypete (#14) Read the Medal of Honor citation for Roy Benavidez that I just posted on this thread and take note that it took years for him to get the award he so richly deserved,and that he was lucky he ever got it because he was in a covert unit instead of a regular army unit. Another SOG MoH winner (Bob Howard) was put in for a Medal of Honor on THREE separate occasions before he finally got one. When you go covert you're either shot as a spy or a traitor. Part of the job. Why else be covert about it....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: sneakypete (#14) Soooo,don't assume a man is not a hero just because he isn't wearing one of the ribbons. A hero is a coward. Don't join up. Don't go. The bravest thing you can do. War is Hell. Every war story from the trenches at the front around the world has the same lesson. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: calcon (#8) Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation. So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Mad Dog (#7) Then why do you shit on his memory here? So to describe what War is actually like is to shit on someone's memory? please. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: mcgowanjm (#22) When you go covert you're either shot as a spy or a traitor. Not always. That is always a real risk,though. Not a single SOG MIA was ever returned or even acknowledged by the NVA. Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver is the only one I even know of where the NVA admitted they had him in their possession when they admitted they had his head in a radio broadcast that was captured. Every SOG guy had a bounty on his head by the NVA just for being on a SOG team,but Shriver was unique in that he was mentioned by name and had a 10 grand bounty on him. In 1968 and 69 this was BIG money. Especially to a Asian peasant. He scared the piss out of them. Most other people,too. That was in early 1969,and they haven't had one word to say about him since then. They will not admit he was KIA or captured and killed,or anything else about him. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: mcgowanjm, Grand Island (#23) A hero is a coward. Don't join up. Don't go. The bravest thing you can do. You really are insane. You know that,right? BTW,I pinged the one guy that probably agrees with you. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: mcgowanjm (#24) So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. Because they declared war on us and attacked us first? "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: mcgowanjm (#25) md; Then why do you shit on his memory here? creep; So to describe what War is actually like is to shit on someone's memory? please. THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: mcgowanjm (#20) . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: mcgowanjm (#21) .. THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: mcgowanjm (#22) ... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: mcgowanjm (#23) .... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: mcgowanjm (#24) ..... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: sneakypete (#28) So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. Because they declared war on us and attacked us first? wrong. Try again. Has to do with the US breaking the German code as well as the Japanese....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   21:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: All (#35) 10 US invaders killed as Mujahideen shoot down ambulance helicopter Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Monday, 07 Rajab 1433 Monday, 28 May 2012 17:10 PAKTIKA, May 28 – A report says that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate shot a US invaders ambulance while it was about to land in an area in Sarhawza district, Paktika province in order to evacuate the dead and wounded caused during a clash with Mujahideen of the Islamic on Monday. According to the reliable sources, as many as 10 American invaders were killed in the shoot-down whereas four other helicopters approached the area to airlift the dead American terrorists from the site. Witnesses say the area has remained surrounded by the enemy forces thought the day. "Contractor Deaths Exceed Military Ones in Iraq and Afghanistan (2010). At the peak of the Iraq War, 150,000 "contractors" were in-theater so our civilian "leadership" could claim to have reduced the "headcount" of military personnnel serving in Iraq. As with everything else in America, the artifice was swallowed whole because the truth was too ugly and difficult for us to bear. The sacrifices of our contractors in Iraq have been ignored by everyone: the Pentagon, the politicians and the public. Nobody wants to acknowledge the losses of those we hired to replace "official" soldiers, even though many of those contractors were ex-U.S. Armed Forces service members. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   21:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: All (#36) Military-Industrial Complex Porn: Congress To Spend More On Tanks Than The Pentagon Wants mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   7:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: sneakypete (#28) Everything you need to know on why WWII: Many thanx, Robin As I know my family, I know that the bush's got their start thru this. IT ALL rings true, right down to their method of criminalizing/'he's mentally unbalanced' dirt in the face methods.....;} "While there is no suggestion (bullsite. I'm 'suggesting it, asshole...;} that Prescott Bush was sympathetic (look up fascvist in the dictionary and see Poppy Bush;} to the Nazi cause In 1941, Thyssen fled Germany after falling out with Hitler but he was captured in France and detained for the remainder of the war. (Now THAT's the first time I've heard that. Right there is Everything you need to know. I'd like to know what the disagreement was about. And be a fly on the wall of that discussion.....;} Erwin May, a treasury attache and officer for the department of investigation in the APC, was assigned to look into UBC's business. The first fact to emerge was that Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush and the other directors didn't actually own their shares in UBC but merely held them on behalf of Bank voor Handel. Strangely, no one seemed to know who owned the Rotterdam-based bank, including UBC's president. Even then it could be argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor. (So did Thyssen leave Germany before or after Pearl Harbour?....;} The trouble started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the government, but instead UBC was maintained intact (!!!!!) and eventually returned to the American shareholders after the war. (!!!!!) Some claim that Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation continued, *****despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler's rise to power. The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery:******* (The Only 'mystery' is why the case was stopped cold.....;} the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz. "The Consolidated Silesian Steel Company situation has become increasingly complicated, and I have accordingly brought in "Sullivan and Cromwell" HUGE law firm implicated in the Truman Doctrine. Still alive and well. Their fingers in more pies than Goldman/Sachs....;}, in order to be sure that our interests are protected," wrote Knight. "After studying the situation Foster Dulles But the ownership of the CSSC between 1939 when the Germans invaded Poland and 1942 when the US government vested UBC and SAC is not clear. "SAC held coal mines and definitely owned CSSC between 1934 and 1935, but when SAC was vested there was no trace of CSSC. All concrete evidence of its ownership disappears after 1935 and there are only a few traces in 1938 and 1939," says Eva Schweitzer, the journalist and author whose book, America and the Holocaust, is published next month. :::::: Silesia was quickly made part of the German Reich after the invasion, but while Polish factories were seized by the Nazis, those belonging to the still neutral Americans (and some other nationals) were treated more carefully as Hitler was still hoping to persuade the US to at least sit out the war as a neutral country. ::::: Schweitzer says American interests were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The Nazis bought some out, but not others. Ford Motor Truck Plant was srutinized by the Nazis, but they found that Germany could not make Ford Trucks any faster or better than Ford.....;} "The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. BULL SHITE Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were." ;} "There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany." Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time. "My take on him was that he was a not terribly successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis any more than they cared about their (Sound Familiar? Poppy Bush cries in front of the Fla Leg knowing that he made the wrong son POTUS....8D) investments with the Bolsheviks." "the essential facts have appeared on the internet and in relatively obscure books but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes". Buchanan suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats, contained in e-mails, suggested that he would expose the journalists as "traitors to the truth". Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls returned. See Fortunate Son author commits suicide for details....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   8:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: Sneaky Pete, All (#38) #133. To: All (#132) CSPAN this AM. The forum was about Obama being able to kill any American he wished, at any time for any reason he deemed fit. Of course that's not the way they worded their 'thread.'....;} But a caller stated that and called for a Reading of the Declaration of Independence and Jefferson's famous 'refreshing the Tree of Liberty' quote. The Hostess (twinkie) then asked what another caller (same line of thought on 'Unconctitutional';} thought the solution was. Of course the caller wasn't expecting that question, which was designed to silence her. She fumbled around and I turned the channel, wishing they'd ask me....;} But of course, if she HAD answered the way I would've liked, or if I had started to answer for the solution, we would both have been cut off. For the answer is that the Empire is now collapsing. The solution is to speed up the collapse and peacefully open ALL secret archives in the USSA and rename our Secret Service Agencies: The SS, CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security. Re Education Camps for all convicted of treason. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   9:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: mcgowanjm (#35) So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. Because they declared war on us and attacked us first? wrong. Try again. No,I am NOT wrong. Germany declared war on us when we declared war on Japan. We declared war on Japan after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. And they were sinking our merchant shipping long before they declared war. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   9:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (41 - 116) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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