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Title: The Myth About Marriage
Source: New York Review of Books
URL Source: http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblo ... s%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
Published: May 13, 2012
Author: Garry Wills
Post Date: 2012-05-13 10:23:43 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 64075
Comments: 126

Why do some people who would recognize gay civil unions oppose gay marriage? Certain religious groups want to deny gays the sacredeness of what they take to be a sacrament. But marriage is no sacrament.

Some of my fellow Catholics even think that “true marriage” was instituted by Christ. It wasn’t. Marriage is prescribed in Eden by YHWH (Yahweh) at Genesis 2.24: man and wife shall “become one flesh.” When Jesus is asked about marriage, he simply quotes that passage from Genesis (Mark 10.8). He nowhere claims to be laying a new foundation for a “Christian marriage” to replace the Yahwist institution.

Some try to make the wedding at Cana (John 1.1-11) somehow sacramental because Jesus worked his first miracle there. But that was clearly a Jewish wedding, like any other Jesus might have attended, and the miracle, by its superabundance of wine, is meant to show the disciples that the Messianic time has come. The great Johannine scholar Father Raymond Brown emphasizes this, and concludes of the passage: “Neither the external nor the internal evidence for a symbolic reference to matrimony is strong. The wedding is only the backdrop and occasion for the story, and the joining of the man and woman does not have any direct role in the narrative.”

The early church had no specific rite for marriage. This was left up to the secular authorities of the Roman Empire, since marriage is a legal concern for the legitimacy of heirs.

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Those who do not want to let gay partners have the sacredness of sacramental marriage are relying on a Scholastic fiction of the thirteenth century to play with people’s lives, as the church has done ever since the time of Aquinas. The myth of the sacrament should not let people deprive gays of the right to natural marriage, whether blessed by Yahweh or not. They surely do not need—since no one does—the blessing of Saint Thomas.

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#45. To: All (#0)

Why do some people who would recognize gay civil unions oppose gay marriage?

And I still haven't seen anybody mention the real reason why gays want to get married in the first place......

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-13   14:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: CZ82 (#45)

And I still haven't seen anybody mention the real reason why gays want to get married in the first place......

For one local (sort of) radio personality, it is because he was kept from his domestic and professional partner in the hospital - doctors wouldn't even talk to him, his partner died because doctors didn't have information that could have saved his life and that he could have provided had he been allowed.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-13   19:34:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: lucysmom (#95)

For one local (sort of) radio personality, it is because he was kept from his domestic and professional partner in the hospital - doctors wouldn't even talk to him, his partner died because doctors didn't have information that could have saved his life and that he could have provided had he been allowed.

You mean to tell me that as much love as they had for each other they were unwilling to use our laws, legally to express their desires to be part of each others lives? Do you mean that only had they been married they could have done this? I hope you not only see the faulty in your reasoning, but acknowledge that homosexuals have had the ability to protect themselves all along though utilizing the law to protect them and their loves ones. How absurd to deny that as a fact in our society.

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#123. To: SJN (#122)

I hope you not only see the faulty in your reasoning, but acknowledge that homosexuals have had the ability to protect themselves all along though utilizing the law to protect them and their loves ones. How absurd to deny that as a fact in our society.

He sued and won, but that didn't bring back his partner.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14 10:20:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: SJN (#122)

You mean to tell me that as much love as they had for each other they were unwilling to use our laws, legally to express their desires to be part of each others lives?

California domestic partnership laws exist in part because of him.

Why do you care if gays are allowed to marry? What skin is it off your nose?

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