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Title: The Chickens of Socialism Come Home to Roost: Mass Suicides in Greece as Government Fails
Source: HPP.com
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/ ... greece-suicides_n_1461164.html
Published: Apr 30, 2012
Author: Erik Kirschbaum
Post Date: 2012-04-30 06:25:53 by CZ82
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Comments: 21

Greece Suicides: Increasing Suicide Numbers Cause Alarm

By Erik Kirschbaum

ATHENS, April 28 (Reuters) - On Monday, a 38-year-old geology lecturer hanged himself from a lamp post in Athens and on the same day a 35-year-old priest jumped to his death off his balcony in northern Greece. On Wednesday, a 23-year-old student shot himself in the head.

In a country that has had one of the lowest suicide rates in the world, a surge in the number of suicides in the wake of an economic crisis has shocked and gripped the Mediterranean nation - and its media - before a May 6 election.

The especially grisly death of pharmacist Dimitris Christoulas, who shot himself in the head on a central Athens square because of poverty brought on by the crisis that has put millions out of work, was by far the most dramatic.

Before shooting himself during morning rush hour on April 4 on Syntagma Square across from the Greek parliament building, the 77-year-old pensioner took a moment to jot down a note.

"I see no other solution than this dignified end to my life so I don't find myself fishing through garbage cans for sustenance," wrote Christoulas, who has since become a national symbol of the austerity-induced pain that is squeezing millions.

Greek media have since reported similar suicides almost daily, worsening a sense of gloom going into next week's election, called after Prime Minister Lucas Papademos's interim government completed its mandate to secure a new rescue deal from foreign creditors by cutting spending further.

Some medical experts say this form of political suicide is a reflection of the growing despair and sense of helplessness many feel. But others warn the media may be amplifying the crisis mood with its coverage and numbers may only be up slightly.

"The crisis has triggered a growing sense of guilt, a loss of self-esteem and humiliation for many Greeks," Nikos Sideris, a leading psychoanalyst and author in Athens, told Reuters.

"Greek people don't want to be a burden to anyone and there's this growing sense of helplessness. Some develop an attitude of self-hatred and that leads to self-destruction. That's what's behind the increase in suicide and attempted suicide. We're seeing a whole new category: political suicides."

Police said the geology lecturer, Nikos Polyvos, who hanged himself, was distraught because a teaching job offer had been blocked due to a blanket hiring freeze in the public sector.

NATION IN SHOCK

Experts say the numbers are relatively low - less than about 600 per year. But increases in suicides, attempted suicides, the use of anti-depressant medication and the need for psychiatric care are causing alarm in a nation unaccustomed to the problems.

Before the financial crisis began wreaking havoc in 2009, Greece had one of the lowest suicide rates in the world - 2.8 per 100,000 inhabitants. There was a 40 percent rise in suicides in the first half of 2010, according to the Health Ministry.

There are no reliable statistics on 2011 but experts say Greece's suicide rate has probably doubled to about 5 per 100,000. That is still far below levels of 34 per 100,000 seen in Finland or 9 per 100,000 in Germany. Attempted suicides and demand for psychiatric help has risen as Greece struggles to cope with the worst economic crisis since World War Two.

Nikiforos Angelopoulos, a professor of psychiatry, has a busy psychotherapy practice in an upmarket Athens neighbourhood. He said the crisis has exacerbated the problems for some already less stable people and estimates that about five percent of his patients have developed problems due to the crisis.

"We're a nation in shock," he said, even though he suspected that it was the media coverage of suicides that had increased dramatically rather than the actual numbers of suicides. He nevertheless says the crisis is behind a notable rise in mental health problems in Greece.

"I had one patient who came in with a severe depression - he owns a furniture making company that got into financial trouble and he had to lay off 20 of his 100 workers," he said. "He couldn't sleep and couldn't eat because of that. He said his good business was being ruined and he couldn't cope anymore."

The furniture maker spent four months in therapy and was also helped by anti-depressants, Angelopoulos said.

"He's better now. He realised what happened just happened. But there are many others who are unstable or psychotic to begin with and the crisis is increasing their anxiety and insecurity."

Angelopoulos, 60, has also suffered himself because about 20 percent of his patients can no longer afford his 100 euro ($130) per hour sessions. Some have asked for a half-price discount while others tell him they simply can't afford to pay anything.

"I never turn people away," he said. "If a patient says to me 'I have no money', I couldn't tell them to go away. I tell them okay you don't have to pay now but remember me later."

HAPPY GREEKS?

There are several possible explanations for Greece's low suicide rate that go beyond the fact that the country has an abundance of sunshine and balmy weather.

To avoid stigmatising their families, some suicidal Greeks deliberately crash their cars, which police often charitably report as accidents. Families often try to cover up a suicide so their loved ones can be buried because the Greek Orthodox church refuses to officiate at burials of people who commit suicide.

Another important factor behind the low suicide rate is that Greeks have extremely close knit families as well as a highly communicative and expressive culture.

"Greece is a country where everyone will talk to you," said Sideris, the Athens psychoanalyst. "You'll always find someone to share your suffering with and someone's always there to help.

"It's not only the good weather. It's the powerful network of support that has made the suicide rate in Greece so low. It's still there but this crisis is still too much for some people."

Many Greeks have also not lost their sense of humour.

Dimitris Nikolopoulos, a 37-year-old salesman, laughed at the idea that the suicide rate was so low because Greeks are well-adjusted and a generally happy people.

"Greeks used to be very happy people because we were living off money that didn't belong to us," he said with a wry smile. "But sometimes you have to face reality. It wasn't our money."

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

"Greeks used to be very happy people because we were living off money that didn't belong to us," he said with a wry smile. "But sometimes you have to face reality. It wasn't our money."

And besides, all the military deals with France/Germany were out of sight and off the books.

How could we have known that we were paying 10.2% of our GDP on war when France/Germany were only paying 2.2%?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

"I see no other solution than this dignified end to my life so I don't find myself fishing through garbage cans for sustenance," wrote Christoulas, who has since become a national symbol of the austerity-induced pain that is squeezing millions.

It's "dignified" to shoot yourself in the head in public because you are a 77 year old professional that has worked for 60 years and have ZERO savings and are a parasite that was totally dependent on the taxes of others?

Never mind. I know why he thought that way. He was a leftist,and living under the illusion that he didn't need to save or invest because the government would tax the "wealthy" (defined as anybody that earns 1 dollar a week more than him) to pay for his comfortable retirement. Yeah,"Everybody is going to have everything they want,and it's not going to cost anybody anything!"

Some people are just too stupid to live.

"Greek people don't want to be a burden to anyone

Bullshit! That was what they dreamed of. Otherwise they wouldn't be socialists. Being a burden on everyone is the root of socialism.

"I had one patient who came in with a severe depression - he owns a furniture making company that got into financial trouble and he had to lay off 20 of his 100 workers," he said. "He couldn't sleep and couldn't eat because of that. He said his good business was being ruined and he couldn't cope anymore."

This guy I have sympathy for.

Dimitris Nikolopoulos, a 37-year-old salesman, laughed at the idea that the suicide rate was so low because Greeks are well-adjusted and a generally happy people.

"Greeks used to be very happy people because we were living off money that didn't belong to us," he said with a wry smile. "But sometimes you have to face reality. It wasn't our money."

This guy is a genius compared to the rest of them. He sees the problem clearly.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   10:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

So why does Greece need to spend 10% of GDP on war.

Who's getting ready to attack?

And why is the military excluded from austerity?

They can stop payments to France/Germany today?

The crime continues....for how long.

What will you be saying when the tanks hit the streets, SP?

The military didn't belong to the Greeks either? ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

And why is the military excluded from austerity?

Somebody needs to keep order.

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lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-30   10:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

So why does Greece need to spend 10% of GDP on war.

Why ask me? I not only don't know,I don't even care. What I care about is why WE spend so much on war when we aren't at war with anybody other than ourselves (war on drugs,war on poverty,etc,etc,etc).

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   10:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#2)

It's "dignified" to shoot yourself in the head in public because you are a 77 year old professional that has worked for 60 years and have ZERO savings and are a parasite that was totally dependent on the taxes of others?

Never mind. I know why he thought that way. He was a leftist,and living under the illusion that he didn't need to save or invest because the government would tax the "wealthy" (defined as anybody that earns 1 dollar a week more than him) to pay for his comfortable retirement. Yeah,"Everybody is going to have everything they want,and it's not going to cost anybody anything!"

Some people are just too stupid to live.

That could not have been said any better.

How in the hell can a 70 year old pharmacist not have SOMETHING tucked away for his retirement?

We The People  posted on  2012-04-30   18:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: We The People (#6)

That could not have been said any better.

Thanks.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   21:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#5)

Why ask me?

Because you said this. And you couldn't have said it better....;}

" .

It's "dignified" to shoot yourself in the head in public because you are a 77 year old professional that has worked for 60 years and have ZERO savings and are a parasite that was totally dependent on the taxes of others? "

The Military: ' has worked for 60 years and have ZERO savings and are a parasite that was totally dependent on the taxes of others? "

You shoot and light yourself afire to show your dedication to despair.

See Tunisia 2011 for details...

Protest against education and health care spending cuts in Madrid on April 29, 2012

The populist reaction to bankster-led austerity in Europe is reaching a boiling point now, as elections near in several countries (Greece, France) and there is no way for politicians to spin the record levels of unemployment and ubiquitous conditions of credit/economic contraction that now exist.

22 Signs That The Collapsing Spanish Economy Is Heading Into A Great Depression.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   22:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8) (Edited)

Just wait until they have been through a few years of economic depression. Once that happens, millions of people begin to lose all hope. A recent Reuters article discussed the epidemic of suicides that is happening in Greece right now....

On Monday, a 38-year-old geology lecturer hanged himself from a lamp post in Athens and on the same day a 35-year-old priest jumped to his death off his balcony in northern Greece. On Wednesday, a 23-year-old student shot himself in the head.

In a country that has had one of the lowest suicide rates in the world, a surge in the number of suicides in the wake of an economic crisis has shocked and gripped the Mediterranean nation - and its media - before a May 6 election.

And you know what?

The nightmares that we are seeing unfold in Spain and Greece right now are just a preview of what is coming to most of the rest of the world.

The next wave of the economic crisis will soon envelop the United States, Japan and the rest of Europe.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...g-into-a-great-depression

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   23:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

Hint to the USSA:

You really really need to get out of the Afghans while you can....just sayin'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   23:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

The Military: ' has worked for 60 years and have ZERO savings and are a parasite that was totally dependent on the taxes of others? "

That's just an insane thing to say. The military isn't in the business of making savings,and they are dependent on the taxes of others by design and necessity.

Unlike some countries where the military run things.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   23:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#11)

That's just an insane thing to say. The military isn't in the business of making savings,and they are dependent on the taxes of others by design and necessity.

Sounds like one big entitlement program to me.

meguro  posted on  2012-04-30   23:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: meguro (#12)

Sounds like one big entitlement program to me.

Only because you are a fool that would have preferred growing up speaking Japanese or German.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   23:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#13)

Only because you are a fool that would have preferred growing up speaking Japanese or German.

Would have helped me now that I live in Japan. :-)

meguro  posted on  2012-04-30   23:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#11)

That's just an insane thing to say.

This is insane.

The J 35 is barely off the drafting table and is projected to cost well over $1 Trillion.

WTF is our military protecting?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: meguro (#14)

Would have helped me now that I live in Japan. :-)

tokyo and North, you're pissing Cesium.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: meguro (#14)

Would have helped me now that I live in Japan. :-)

If the Japanese had won WW-2 there is no way they would allow a Caucasian to live in Japan unless it were as a slave.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-01   9:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: meguro (#12)

That's just an insane thing to say. The military isn't in the business of making savings,and they are dependent on the taxes of others by design and necessity. Sounds like one big entitlement program to me.

That's because you are a Dim,and reality is just a semi-interesting concept to you.

The REALITY is that congress can cut the military budget to practically nothing any time they want,and in fact they have a history of doing this.

Which is why we were so unprepared for WW-2 despite our industry already being geared up to produce for countries already at war.

It was selling goods and weapons to countries at war that got us out of the Depression,not any brain fart of King Franklin or his commie pals.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-01   9:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#15) (Edited)

The J 35 is barely off the drafting table and is projected to cost well over $1 Trillion.

WTF is our military protecting?

It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the military to ALWAYS be prepared to defend against and defeat ANY future threat.

It is the RESPONSIBILITY of CONGRESS (You know them,the people who decide if we go to war or not and who we go to war against?) to decide which programs get the funding.

Blame Congress for the J-35,not the military. The military is doing what they are supposed to be doing.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-01   9:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

tokyo and North, you're pissing Cesium

Is that why my pee is purple?

meguro  posted on  2012-05-01   12:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: meguro (#20)

Is that why my pee is purple?

If your pee is purple and it doesn't hurt you need to put out a vid that will go viral....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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