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Title: New Law Would Force Churches to Accept Gay Marriage
Source: Creative Minority Report
URL Source: http://www.creativeminorityreport.c ... -force-churches-to-accept.html
Published: Apr 24, 2012
Author: matthew archbold
Post Date: 2012-04-24 16:26:50 by Hondo68
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Keywords: gay & lesbian or transgender, Human Relations Commission, the protected classes
Views: 38083
Comments: 86

A city council is weighing a proposed ordinance that would force churches in the Kansas town to rent their facilities for gay weddings.

This kind of thing nationwide is inevitable. Folks who are for gay marriage see it as a civil rights issue. And may see the Catholic Church and conservative Christian organizations as the enemy. Do you really think they'd fight for civil rights and then agree that the institutions they hate don't have to acknowledge those civil rights? Of course not. Like I said, this kind of law is inevitable everywhere.

Todd Starnes of Fox News reports:

The Hutchinson City Council will consider adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes in the city’s human relations code. They are expected to vote on the changes next month.

According to the Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, churches that rent out their buildings to the general public would not be allowed to discriminate “against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.”

Meryl Dye, a spokesperson for the Human Relations Commission confirmed to Fox News that churches would be subjected to portions of the proposed law.

“They would not be able to discriminate against gay and lesbian or transgender individuals,” Dye said. “That type of protection parallels to what you find in race discrimination. If a church provides lodging or rents a facility they could not discriminate based on race. It’s along that kind of thinking.”

Matthew Staver, chairman of the Liberty Counsel Action, told Fox News the proposed law is “un-American.”

“It is a collision course between religious freedom and the LGBT agenda,” Staver said. “This proposed legislation will ultimately override the religious freedom that is protected under the First Amendment.”

He argued that churches cannot be forced by the government to set aside their religious convictions and their mission. And, he warned, some churches could even be forced to rent their buildings for drag parties.
Hey, if religious institutions can be forced to cover abortifacients and sterilization procedures, what's the problem with forcing churches to rent their halls to folks celebrating a gay marriage. Come on, what's a little drag party between friends?

I'd suggest that churches start decorating their halls in very drab colors to avoid interest from gay marriage celebrations. And maybe put up lots of sports memorabilia. Wait, the lesbians might like that. How about a wall of inspirational posters with pictures of sunsets and lakes and stuff with quotes from Maggie Gallagher saying things like, "Europe, which gave us the idea of same-sex marriage, is a dying society, with birthrates 50 percent below replacement."


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#19. To: Mad Dog (#10)

So called "race" is NOT an optional behavior.

Who cares, I don't need an excuse to keep someone out of my church. Maybe I just don't like their looks, or they drive a Chevy Volt.

Public property would have to be just that... open to the public.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-25   17:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SJN (#18)

Once you succeed in driving Christians underground sooner than later there will be hell to pay and you'll be holding the catchers mitt.

A catchers mit will be insufficient when lead is reigning down on him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   17:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#13)

If some queer comes to a church and wants to be married. Put a bullet in the queers head and dump them in the river.

Were you molested as a child?

Sure the hell sounds like it...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-04-25   17:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#13)

"Put a bullet in the queers head and dump them in the river."

That was the German Nazi solution for homosexuality as well as for the Jews. How does if feel to sound like Hitler?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SJN (#18)

"Church is supposed to be where the Gospel of Christ is taught."

Oh, you mean that stuff all full of love and tolerance? You could of fooled me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

"Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you."

Talk that way to my face and act like you are going to do it, you would be smart to hope you don't get made room temperature first.

I'm not intimidated by you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#20)

"A catchers mit will be insufficient when lead is reigning down on him."

Funny how that works both ways, junior.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Brian S (#21)

"Were you molested as a child?

Sure the hell sounds like it..."

He's still a child emotionally, sad but true.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   23:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#22)

"That was the German Nazi solution for homosexuality as well as for the Jews."

German Nazis aren't killing Jews anymore, but fags have that little something that just keeps on giving killing.

ANYONE who knowingly carries a deadly venereal disease, but continues to spead DEATH by playing russian roulette with innocent lives, deserves nothing short of a bullet between the eyes, and if you are among those desease ridden, filthy animals, do yourself, and more innocent people a favore, and off yourself as a good example, maybe others will follow your example. jmho!

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-04-25   23:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#17) (Edited)

Ping to Ferret Mike!

"hope they lose the legal battle, but even if they don't, the controversy won't end, and this will be merely one of many places this battle is fought before this war against bigotry and intolerance is won."

"Until normal good people get tired of freaks like you and exterminate you.

If you think for one moment that any so-called legal battle will change a persons mind over this abomination mike, think again, and you (if you actually do have the guts to fight, which I seriously doubt), and all these other desease ridden vermon, had better be armed with more than just your purses to throw at them, because blood will be spilled.

Where their abominal desease came from, and who carries and spreads it!

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-04-26   0:24:20 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

Hey baby killer. When the church building speaks then you can tax it. If you don't like it. Jump off a cliff.

Churches need to stop being wards of their local governments and start paying their own way. I'm tired of supporting mega churches and their rich congregations that are getting a free ride on the taxpayers.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-26   1:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#29)

You aren't supporting them! lol

Another liberal screaming about how others need to pay more to the Government.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-26   2:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Oh, you mean that stuff all full of love and tolerance? You could of fooled me.

You wouldn't know what truth and love are if it bit you between the eyes.

God does not tolerate evil and neither did Christ.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-26   2:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#29)

"Churches need to stop being wards of their local governments and start paying their own way. I'm tired of supporting mega churches and their rich congregations that are getting a free ride on the taxpayers."

I fully agree with you. especially in this hrsh economic time, it's time for these freeloaders to pay their way.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   3:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SJN (#31)

Apparently I know the truth better then a bigot like you. ;-)

Your subjective opinions of bigotry are your own. Otherwise one could make the argument the reason heterosexual marriage fails so often is because the Christian/Jewish/Muslim God disapproves of it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   3:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Murron (#28)

"Where their abominal desease came from, and who carries and spreads it!"

Careful, much of the diseases that wiped out many Native Americans because they didn't have European resistance to diseases that abounded in European culture due to lack of hygiene in European cities and culture by your own logic were caused by unclean devils that spread their poison to innocents in the Western hemisphere.

Your inference we of European ancestry are disease ridden vermin is unrealistic and uncalled for.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   3:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Murron (#28) (Edited)

HIV is a huge problem in Heterosexual relationships in much the world.

How HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals It is a myth that AIDS is a gay disease. The fact is, 32% of Americans who were diagnosed with HIV/AIDS in 2007 were heterosexual. (See chart.)

HIV does not discriminate. Anyone can get it if he or she is not careful. You have probably heard many times about the importance of using condoms and practicing safe sex. Here is another reminder, and some tips about communicating openly with your sex partners.

Let's Talk About Safe Sex! We know it can be awkward talking about safe sex with your partner. But it's important to take the initiative and be strong. Your partner may also respect you more because you're showing that you care about yourself and your future. Don't wait until the heat of the moment to bring up the topic. It's easier to discuss ways to have safer sex ahead of time so you'll both be clear. It might even get you in the mood!

Talk to your partner as if he/she were your best friend. "Above all, I respect you as a friend, and I don't want either of us to get HIV and other STDs. We've got to be safe and use condoms."

Suggest getting tested for HIV together. The experience may bring you closer emotionally. "I'll feel better if we know our HIV status before having sex. Let's get tested together."

Be prepared to state your concerns around HIV and/or pregnancy and don't back down. "I really want to be with you, but we haven't been tested yet. We've got to be safe and use condoms."

If you haven't used condoms in the past and want to start, try explaining that you need to do things differently. "I know we haven't used condoms in the past, but now I realize that was a mistake. We need to be smarter." http://www.hvtn.org/community/straight.html

Worldwide, most HIV infections are caused by heterosexual contact. And as we see by the above story, the demographics of the disease in the U.S. is changing as it is increasingly being passed in heterosexual relationships.

Your line of bait is not only pointless, but it's assumptions are out of date too. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   4:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Oh, you mean that stuff all full of love and tolerance?

Tolerance is evil. You don't tolerate evil. You destroy it.

Mikey you are a fullfillment of Bible prophecy. You call good evil and evil good. Mike it is people like you that are the problem in this country. And you will vote for Obama. You worship it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-26   6:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold (#29)

Churches need to stop being wards of their local governments and start paying their own way. I'm tired of supporting mega churches and their rich congregations that are getting a free ride on the taxpayers.

Yes. And we real Americans are tired of you breathing our air.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-26   6:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#35)

HIV is Increasing Among Heterosexuals

Due to bisexual wiccan junkie gay marriages.

"We want to ask Barack Obama, is this what he wants to bring to Africa?"


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-26   8:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#36)

"Tolerance is evil. You don't tolerate evil. You destroy it."

Thstmis the way Hitler felt about people he hated, gays being one of the groups as well as Jews. He was just as wrong as you are here.

And so what is your plan 'my little wannabe Fuhrer,' kill gays and lesbians every time there is one through the rest of history? There have been homosexuals as long as the species has existed, and this will always be the case.

Or do you grow up and realize that you are sane and realistic and learn to accept people the way they are?

Your final solution for homosexuality is very Nazi of you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   8:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: hondo68 (#38)

No, these are quite rank and file people that are coming down with this disease through heterosexual intercourse. Interesting how you add your racism to Stone's homophobia.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   8:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#40)

Interesting how you add your racism to Stone's homophobia.

Says the anal licking racist cracka.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-26   9:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

Hitlers regime and rank and file were filled with sodomites and rumors of him having been one as well. The fact that sodomites turned on each other if they weren't hailing the fuher doesn't surprise me in the least!

SJN  posted on  2012-04-26   9:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

The only argument that washes is sinful man. Heterosexuals are sinful people as well as every other man, woman and child on the earth. There is only one cure for that state of being.

Homosexual acts is sinning against God. You cannot have communion with God when engaged in homosexual acts.

Bottom line.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-26   9:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#41)

"Says the anal licking racist cracka."

Ecpet unfortunately for you, I am quite heterosexual. It is a common tactic of haters and baiters to label anyone against irrational bigotry, hatred and scapegoating to try to paint anyone against this inhumanity as doing it because they allegedly belong to the demographic group the hatred and scapegoating targets.

All this proves is you know how to hate and try to belittle and harrass others. And that is it.

Oh, and I'm a 'corn cracker' who is a quarter Puerto Rican, which is a group that has it's haters who are just as brutally ignorant and vicious as thos who labelled the Irish immigrating to this country over it's histery as 'White Niggers,' another group whom I as someone named McCarthy know well.

You don't worry or bother me little guy, I see what sort of scoundrel you are quite well.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   9:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: SJN (#42) (Edited)

"Hitlers regime and rank and file were filled with sodomites and rumors of him having been one as well. The fact that sodomites turned on each other if they weren't hailing the fuher doesn't surprise me in the least!"

And Scott Lively who used to be part of the discredited anti-gay group we at Basic Rights Oregon successfully fought and accredited called the Oregon Citizen's alliance (OCA) wrote about this in a revenge book called 'The Pink Triangle.'

This book was vetted and discredited as inaccurate and deceptive by historians and academia. Yours' is the same sort of deceptive attack that Hondo makes here trying to paint me as being a homosexual because I have bigotry and irrational scapegoating.

Hatred and intolerance never gives haters and baiters much wiggle room to do your dirty work, does it?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   9:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: SJN (#43)

"The only argument that washes is sinful man. Heterosexuals are sinful people as well as every other man, woman and child on the earth. There is only one cure for that state of being."

People committing genocide always use this argument, and ultimately lose and are shown to be the monsters they are.

Sorry, but your rhetorical KKK robe complete with Nazi armband doesn't impress me in the least.

Homosexuality has been removed as an affliction in the DMS quite simply because impartial studies that were well vetted showed that aside for their sexual orientation, gays and lesbians are no different than anyone esle in how functional and productive they are in living their lives.

You need to stop worrying about who goes to bed with whom and start to worry about your own personal problem with the cancers of hatred and bigotry.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   9:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

The answer is very simple, and the churches should be brought to task for their bigotry.

Faggotry is a sin, as is beastiality. You will never be married in a church Mike.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-04-26   10:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Thunderbird (#47)

Faggotry is a sin, as is beastiality.

So is bearing false witness and yet the SCOTUS upholds lying as a 1st Amendment right.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   10:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Thunderbird (#47) (Edited)

I wasn't married in a church because I am not Christian, but my ex-wife was (and still isn't a man. And my kid and grand kids didn't come from a male/male relationship.

And if I remarry, she will probably be cose to my age and thus past child bearing years. So because people like me can't or won't produce more kids, we should not remarry/marry; right?

Bestiality is not consensual and homosexuality is not animal abuse. You don't have anything to this post except an attempt similar to others some make here by trying to paint me as being gay. I would say nice try, but it is something with no originality or basis in fact.

You don't have to be Jewish to hate the Shoah the Nazi Germans are responsible, or do you think that is a prerequisite for such empathy for others?

If so, you are way wrong.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   10:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

You don't have anything to this post except an attempt similar to others some make here by trying to paint me as being gay.

Which is a sin, according to the Ten Commandments, and bothers him not.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   10:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lucysmom (#50) (Edited)

Of course not, because as in situations where someone was lynched for being black, gassed for being Jewish, or massacred at Wounded Knee for being Indians, the ends justifies the means with people like this.

It never is about right or wrong with them, it's about promoting an agenda by making scapegoats. Which is what issues used as a wedge to split people away from where they are to get them to join our camp is all about.

What the hate homosexuals movement is about is nothing new. It involves tactics and agendas that have been used historically by many people, not just people like Adolph Hitler.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   10:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#37)

Yes. And we real Americans are tired of you breathing our air.

Then you "real" Americans, AKA pedophile lovers, need to come and try to do something about it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-26   11:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

Homosexuality has been removed as an affliction in the DMS quite simply because impartial studies that were well vetted showed that aside for their sexual orientation, gays and lesbians are no different than anyone esle in how functional and productive they are in living their lives.

And that is the key to defining a mental illness. If and how certain behaviors affects one's ability to function as measured by the cultural average. I expect conservatism to be considered a mental disorder if the dysfunctional symptoms shown by many here are any indication.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-26   11:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mininggold (#52)

Then you "real" Americans, AKA pedophile lovers, need to come and try to do something about it.

Says the San Francisco Bay area's "fisting" champion.

You and your mentor Bernie Ward make quite a pair, just not church worthy.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-04-26   12:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike, hondo68 (#44)

"Says the anal licking racist cracka."

Ecpet unfortunately for you, I am quite heterosexual. It is a common tactic of haters and baiters to label anyone against irrational bigotry, hatred and scapegoating to try to paint anyone against this inhumanity as doing it because they allegedly belong to the demographic group the hatred and scapegoating targets.

All this proves is you know how to hate and try to belittle and harrass others. And that is it.

Oh, and I'm a 'corn cracker' who is a quarter Puerto Rican, which is a group that has it's haters who are just as brutally ignorant and vicious as thos who labelled the Irish immigrating to this country over it's histery as 'White Niggers,' another group whom I as someone named McCarthy know well.

You don't worry or bother me little guy, I see what sort of scoundrel you are quite well.

LMAO!

You really are a hypocritical LYING libTURD POS cornflake boy.

LOL!

You are so "open minded" that you TRY to attack people that you hate by calling them queers.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Just like you have tried to do with me you LYING little HYPOCRITICAL bitch.

Pointing at YOU laughing!

Explain to us all how IF you really do respect QUEERS, then why do you TRY to use being QUEER as an insult and attack on others you gibbering HYPOCRITE bitch?

Oh yeah... YOU ARE a LYING HYPOCRITICAL libTURD piece of shit.

LOL!

You simpering little pussy.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-26   13:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mad Dog (#55) (Edited)

"You are so "open minded" that you TRY to attack people that you hate by calling them queers."

Actually Steve, I never called you homosexual, just asked about a thread that Stone has verified that he removed a short time after it was posted.

I merely posted it, and then asked you about it.

Sorry if all that makes you defensive and uncommunicative, but that's the breaks kid. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   13:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Mad Dog (#55) (Edited)

"Explain to us all how IF you really do respect QUEERS, then why do you TRY to use being QUEER as an insult and attack on others you gibbering HYPOCRITE bitch?"

Glad to. I do not consider being called a homosexual an insult. And I withheld judgment on the thread that had been posted to your account out of consideration that someone not to long ago emptied my bozo list, a function Neil McIver verified to me as something one would have to be in my account to do.

Thuis, I was and am curious as to waht you had to say about this, as if someone is cracking accounts with the intent of playing around with them, we all should know about this.

Any more questions?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   13:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

Yawn ...

LMAO!

You really are a hypocritical LYING libTURD POS cornflake boy.

LOL!

You are so "open minded" that you TRY to attack people that you hate by calling them queers.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Just like you have tried to do with me you LYING little HYPOCRITICAL bitch.

Pointing at YOU laughing!

Explain to us all how IF you really do respect QUEERS, then why do you TRY to use being QUEER as an insult and attack on others you gibbering HYPOCRITE bitch?

Oh yeah... YOU ARE a LYING HYPOCRITICAL libTURD piece of shit.

LOL!

You simpering little cowardly LYING pussy.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-26   13:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Mad Dog (#58)

You can go into your Rodeo clown spam routine all you want. I recognize you do this in an attempt to frustrate and anger whomever it is you are targeting.

All I intend on doing is post in a way that deals with the facts and invites dialog. And should you not like this, it is your problem; not mine. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-26   13:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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