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Title: Florida Law Requires GOP To Allow Concealed Weapons At Convention
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RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/ ... ncealed-weapons-at-convention/
Published: Apr 3, 2012
Author: David Ferguson
Post Date: 2012-04-03 20:28:54 by Brian S
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Views: 21686
Comments: 42
Be advised if you plan on attending the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida this summer. You can’t bring your water gun to the designated protest zones, but your concealed pistol? That’s just fine, according to an article in the Tampa Bay Times.
Under Florida Statute 790.33, local municipalities are forbidden to make or pass any restrictions on the “sale, purchase, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, storage or transportation of guns or ammunition.” So, when Tampa city officials attempted to regulate gun possession with the so-called “Clean Zones” around the proposed convention site, they found that they were already overruled.
“Even if we tried to regulate it, it would be null and void,” City Attorney Jim Shimberg told the Times.
Assistant City Attorney Mauricio Rodriguez said, “”It was just kind of common sense. We felt if we’re going to regulate people carrying sticks and poles, why wouldn’t we regulate people carrying firearms, because those could pose significant risks to police and other protesters.”
But, facing disciplinary action by the state, including “judgments of up to $100,000 against local governments that enforce local gun ordinances” and action against local officials that could include removal from office, fines of up to $5,000, and denial of representation by city or county attorneys, Tampa legislators backed down.
The outlines of the “Clean Zone” have not been set, but it is expected to cover all of downtown Tampa, the Ybor City neighborhood, and several other areas. Within the zone is the protest area, where demonstrators will be screened to keep out weapons and other potentially hazardous items.
The city has placed limits on the size and duration of parades and rallies, as well as restrictions as to where and when gatherings can be held. Derek Netwon of the Florida ACLU says that the civil liberties group has a number of concerns about the city’s handling of potential protesters, and that ACLU attorneys are looking over the current list of rules.
“We have concerns any time there’s an attempt to restrict speech,” said Newton, and that the organization would make its findings public as soon as the legal review is complete.
No firearms except those belonging to on-duty law-enforcement personnel will be allowed inside the convention. The U.S. Secret Service has the authority to establish and maintain its own secure perimeter within the convention area.
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#3. To: Mad Dog, Capitalist Eric, *RON PAUL 2012* (#2)
Actually I think it is a 'good thing' for all to be packing and carrying in the GOP Convention...
"Keep hope alive..."
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
#4. To: Brian S (#3)
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Sure you do, you gibbering WHORE for TYRANNY.
Why do you libTURD FILTH piss yourselves when you see FREE people busy being FREE?
Why are you such a WHORE for TYRANNY as long as it's called libTURDISM WHORE?
Why WHORE?
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
#5. To: Brian S (#0)
You can’t bring your water gun to the designated protest zones, but your concealed pistol? That’s just fine, according to an article in the Tampa Bay Times.
Well that should help keep out all of the Loony toon Leftard protesters!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)
Almost every state in the country allows carry permits. Most of them are required to approve carry permits to people who aren't felons. (A small number of states required a reason for get a permit, but most don't). The fact that leftist loons don't seem to understand this underscores just how of out touch with reality they actually are.
Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate
#7. To: Brian S (#3)
Actually I think it is a 'good thing' for all to be packing and carrying in the GOP Convention...
The DNC convention is being held in North Carolina in Sept.
North Carolina is a 'shall issue' state. But you'll be safe, cause Dems are too pussified to carry.
#8. To: We The People (#7)
But you'll be safe, cause Dems are too pussified to carry.
I know a lot of 'dems' that carry and support 2A 110%.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
#9. To: Brian S (#8)
A lot?
I don't believe you.
#10. To: We The People (#7)
cause Dems are too pussified to carry.
lol Seems the pussies are those who are so scared of being attacked that they feel need a gun to protect themselves.
#11. To: NewsJunky, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#10)
Assault Weapon Watch - You could be the one that spots the assault weapon violence.
Currently monitoring an M14 assault rifle with 20 round magazine.
http://assaultweaponwatch.com/camera2.html
You're probably the sort of pussy who has a roof on their house for protection, and locks on their doors and windows.
Let us know when that M14 goes on a rampage.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
#12. To: NewsJunky (#10)
lol Seems the pussies are those who are so scared of being attacked that they feel need a gun to protect themselves.
Are you one of them?
Are you speaking from experience or is that just a general feeling that you have?
Do you feel that everyone who carries a weapon is a pussy?
#13. To: NewsJunky (#10)
Seems the pussies are those who are so scared of being attacked that they feel need a gun to protect themselves.
My preferred weapon is the Kimber Stainless II, .45 ACP.
Am I scared of being attacked? Hardly. Carrying this weapon- and two Wilson Combat magazines- gives me a warm feeling.
People sometimes ask why I carry? The answer is simple: the police are under NO legal obligation to protect me or my family. This has been affirmed repeatedly in the courts. Thus, the responsibility falls to me.
Your point is based upon gross ignorance.
Thanks for playing. :)
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#14. To: Capitalist Eric (#13) (Edited)
The likelihood of you ever being assaulted with a deadly weapon is very very low especially if you take precautions. You are more likely to die from a car accident so maybe you should not drive to "protect" your family.
#15. To: NewsJunky (#14)
The likelihood of you ever being assaulted with a deadly weapon is very very low especially if you take precautions.
The old saying still applies, "without data, you're just another person with an opinion."
So here are some data-points.
I've had people try to assault me with a deadly weapon on two separate occasions, even though I took normal precautions.
I've also been in three different situations where I drew my weapon, and legally would have been "clean" had I decided to pull the trigger. but part of being a responsible gun owner means knowing when and when not to actually squeeze the trigger, regardless of whether I'm legally justified in doing so. Each time, the presence of a weapon has caused the person I drew on, to back down, and I've never actually had to go that final step.
You are more likely to die from a car accident so maybe you should not drive to "protect" your family.
You're unable to substantiate that claim, since the police don't keep data where the presence of a weapon de-escalated a crime situation.
But nice try. I find your gyrations amusing.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#15)
I've also been in three different situations where I drew my weapon, and legally would have been "clean" had I decided to pull the trigger. but part of being a responsible gun owner means knowing when and when not to actually squeeze the trigger, regardless of whether I'm legally justified in doing so. Each time, the presence of a weapon has caused the person I drew on, to back down, and I've never actually had to go that final step.
Where were you? What part of town?
#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#15)
I've had people try to assault me with a deadly weapon on two separate occasions, even though I took normal precautions.
I doubt if an asshole like you could go ten feet without half a dozen people wanting to kick your punk ass.
Pulled your weapon three times is complete bullshit from a pussy trying to play tough guy. The only thing you've ever pulled is your tiny little dick.
#18. To: NewsJunky (#16)
Eric's a pussy, he probably got assaulted by some teenage girls who took his lunch money.
#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#15)
And also using gun outside the home can lead to innocent people being hurt so there are significant downside risks to using a weapon in those situations. In the heat of the moment people actions aren't always predictable.
#20. To: calcon (#18)
Eric's a pussy, he probably got assaulted by some teenage girls who took his lunch money.
lol
#21. To: calcon, Capitalist Eric (#17)
I've had people try to assault me with a deadly weapon on two separate occasions, even though I took normal precautions.I doubt if an asshole like you could go ten feet without half a dozen people wanting to kick your punk ass.
You two have more in common then then disagreement. You both want the old America back. You both think Obama sucks. There is a start.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)
You two have more in common then then disagreement. You both want the old America back. You both think Obama sucks. There is a start.
Eric likes Russians, that's hardly an old American value unless one is Lee Harvey Oswald.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#23. To: mininggold (#22)
Eric likes Russians
What is wrong with Russians? It is their government that is the problem. For them and potentially us.
Do you hate Russians?
How do I know what you say is true?
#24. To: A K A Stone (#23) (Edited)
What is wrong with Russians? It is their government that is the problem. For them and potentially us.Do you hate Russians?
How do I know what you say is true?
That holds true for every country on earth.
Are you saying that loving Russia is an old American tradition?
Ask him.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#25. To: NewsJunky (#16)
Seattle, 1989. San Diego, 1991. Sunnyvale, CA, 1996.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#26. To: NewsJunky (#19)
And also using gun outside the home can lead to innocent people being hurt so there are significant downside risks to using a weapon in those situations.
True. While I *often* "use" my guns outside the home- usually at ranges in my area- I've been lucky in that the *threat* of using deadly force, has been sufficient to deter the opponent from continuing on the same path.
In the heat of the moment people actions aren't always predictable.
Agreed. Again, I consider myself lucky, especially in this regard.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#27. To: Capitalist Eric (#26)
So you routinely brandish your weapons? LOLOLOL
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#28. To: A K A Stone (#21)
There is a start.
Hardly. Calcon has inadequacy issues. He doesn't know what it means to be a man, so he poses as one. It's all he's got.
His statements can be viewed through that prism, in that he believes everyone else is the same; trying to prove their "grit," you could say... Yet his ubiquitous taunting only serves to demonstrate how weak he really is.
<<< Smirk >>>
With regard to loonyming, she attacks because she dislikes anyone who rejects her world-view, where Socialism cures all ills, American women are the cats' meow. To her, any man who rejects the propaganda she so happily accepts, is a threat, someone to be attacked and minimized.
Getting back to calcon, he's far more similar to rat-boy, in that he's weak, intellectually lost, and directionless.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#29. To: Capitalist Eric (#28)
Yet his ubiquitous taunting only serves to demonstrate how weak he really is.
Couldn't the same be said about your name calling, for example To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
#30. To: lucysmom (#29)
Couldn't the same be said about your name calling, for example To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.?
He considers you an attacker, and he carries and routinely warns off intruders with a gun. I would be very careful if I was you.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#31. To: mininggold (#30)
I would be very careful if I was you.
If Stone published my name and address, that would make him complicit wouldn't it?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
#32. To: lucysmom (#31) (Edited)
If Stone published my name and address, that would make him complicit wouldn't it?
Who knows? He might be doing this at the behest of Eric, who seems to have a strange attraction to you.
Stone is setting himself up for a whole host of problems by letting his emotions overrule any common sense he might have left.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#33. To: Capitalist Eric (#28)
I don't need a gun to protect myself, pussy.
#34. To: mininggold, lucysmom, capitaless erica (#30)
He considers you an attacker, and he carries and routinely warns off intruders with a gun. I would be very careful if I was you.
Not to worry ladies, i'm sure both of you are tough enough to kick his butt.
All his macho gun talk means one thing to me, he's not man enough to protect himself without a gun.
5 will get you 10, he wasn't man enough to serve in the military, either.
#35. To: calcon (#33)
I don't need a gun to protect myself, pussy.
Eric says he lives in California AND routinely brandishes his gun to ward off intruders. I wonder if he's allowed to do the same while visiting his Russian in-laws?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#36. To: mininggold (#32)
...Eric, who seems to have a strange attraction to you.
He does, doesn't he?
Do you think he would be half as attracted if he knew we were two separate people?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
#37. To: lucysmom (#36)
He does, doesn't he?Do you think he would be half as attracted if he knew we were two separate people?
I think that between the two of us (three if you include Eric), the only one who has had a concealed carry permit is me.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
#38. To: mininggold (#37)
I think that between the two of us (three if you include Eric), the only one who has had a concealed carry permit is me.
You could be right about that.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
#39. To: mininggold (#35)
Eric says he lives in California AND routinely brandishes his gun to ward off intruders.
Probably some teenagers skateboarding in the street or preschoolers riding their trikes.
#40. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, mininggold, calcon (#28)
LOL.
Rule of Disinformation #17: Change the subject.
Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
Rule of Disinformation #18: Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.
If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
Disinformationalist Trait #4: Teamwork
They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.
LMAO.
Thanks for playing!!!!!!!!
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#41. To: lucysmom (#31)
If Stone published my name and address, that would make him complicit wouldn't it?
That would never happen.
I don't have it anyway.
#42. To: Capitalist Eric, lucysmom, mininggold, (#40)
Numbnuts, would you like me to pm you some good posts. You keep repeating the same old lame post.
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