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Title: Dawkins Admits He Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist
Source: GFP.com
URL Source: http://godfatherpolitics.com/4011/d ... nnot-prove-god-does-not-exist/
Published: Mar 5, 2012
Author: Giacomo
Post Date: 2012-03-05 13:55:53 by CZ82
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Views: 37253
Comments: 108

Dawkins Admits He Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist

March 5, 2012 by Giacomo

For centuries, people have claimed to be atheists because no one could prove to them that God exists. One of the most ardent members of that group has been British author Richard Dawkins. I’ve read and listened to Dawkins challenge believers to prove to him that God exists and that if they could he might believe in God.

But in reality, the opposite is true. The onus is on people like Dawkins to prove there is no God and this is something he has finally realized he cannot do. With the realization that he cannot prove God does not exist, Dawkins shocked many throughout the world with his announcement that he is not an atheist after all, but rather he would classify himself as an agnostic.

The definition of an agnostic is someone who believes that the existence of God is unknown and that human knowledge is limited to physical evidence plus things that can be experienced and this is where Dawkins find himself.

However, many Christians, like evangelist and author Ray Comfort, challenge Dawkins statement about being an agnostic and that it has everything to do with evidence and proving that God does not exist. Rather, Comfort says that people like Dawkins are making a decision on the moral choice to deny the existence of God. If they acknowledged God in any form, they would have to realize that they would have a moral obligation to be responsible to Him.

Comfort goes even further and describes Dawkins as not only being ignorant but of being an ignoramus. He explains,

“Richard Dawkins is ignorant when it comes to the existence of God. However, it’s a willful ignorance. He has in the past stated that he believes that nothing created everything, which is a scientific impossibility. It’s not only impossible, it’s crazy to believe that. That’s why the Bible uses the word ‘fool’ to describe someone who says that God doesn’t exist.

“Professing atheists will often slip into pleading ignorance, but that plea doesn’t solve their case, because they just move from being a ‘fool’ to being an ‘ignoramus.’

“The word ‘ignoramus’ is a legal term derived from a Latin word meaning ‘we do not know. An ignoramus is like a man who looks at a building and says that he ‘doesn’t know’ if a builder exists. Obviously, the building is proof that there was a builder, because buildings don’t build themselves.

“The reason why anyone would be that ignorant is clear. It’s not a case of a lack of evidence. The problem with Professor Dawkins isn’t intellectual, but moral. He doesn’t want to admit that God exists, because if he does, he’s admitting that he’s morally responsible to Him.”

I found the definition of agnostic interesting because it is not only based on physical evidence, but also relies on things that can be experienced. I don’t know about you, but I’ve experienced the presence of God numerous times in my life. I’ve witnessed things that defy all natural explanation and can only be explained by a God who watches over and gets involved in our lives. To be honest, I didn’t pick my wife some 42 years ago, but rather I can see where God caused a number of things to happen, that shouldn’t have happened, that led to us getting together. (Knowing that God picked her out for me also tells me that I have to do whatever it takes to make sure nothing happens to destroy our marriage.)

Deep inside all of us we experience the presence of God as we were made in His image with an ingrained knowledge of him from the very beginning. One of my favorite examples of this was Helen Keller, who at the young age of 19 months developed a fever that left her blind and deaf. She was so young at the time that she had little memory of vision or hearing. She grew up in a black and soundless world without any communication with others, other than touch until Ann Sullivan found a way to communicate to her.

In one of her letters, Helen told Bishop Brooks that she had always known about God, even before she had any words. Before she could call God anything, she knew God was there. She didn’t know what it was. God had no name for her — nothing had a name for her. She had no concept of a name. But in her darkness and isolation, she knew she was not alone. Someone was with her. She felt God’s love. And when she received the gift of language and heard about God, she said she already knew.

If Richard Dawkins is correct, Helen Keller should never have been able to experience the presence of God, but she did because the knowledge of God is part of who we all are. Therefore, Ray Comfort is absolutely correct when he says that Dawkins and others are making a moral decision to deny the existence of God since they know that God exists in them and cannot prove to others that He doesn’t

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#66. To: Mad Dog (#60)

you don't even know what WORK is.

but at least i can spell it, simpleton

calcon  posted on  2012-03-07   18:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: NewsJunky (#64)

There are millions of compounds that have less energy in them than the elements of which they are composed. That sentence is a quiet bombshell. It means that the second law energetically FAVORS — yes, predicts firmly — the spontaneous formation of complex, geometrically ordered molecules from utterly simple atoms of elements. Popular statements such as "the second law says that all systems fundamentally tend toward disorder and randomness" are wrong when they refer to chemistry, and chemistry precisely deals with the structure and behavior of all types of matter.

To summarize this important conclusion that is known by very few who are not chemists: Energetically, the second law of thermodynamics favors the formation of the majority of all known complex and ordered chemical compounds directly from their simpler elements. Thus, contrary to popular opinion, the second law does not dictate the decrease of ordered structure by its predictions. It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously.

Also, to repeat a caution: The foregoing only describes energetic relationships involving the second law. It does not mean that most complex substances can be readily synthesized just by mixing elements and treating them in some way. The second law has nothing to do with pathways or procedures of synthesis – only with energy and its tendency to spread out/disperse.

You make a great point that chemistry and physics do not agree on this. And further arguments would be made from a biologist.

"It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously."

And that little statement makes the entire point you are making invalid.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-07   18:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: redleghunter (#65)

I don't understand the gobbledygook. Just explain it to me in your own words.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: redleghunter (#67) (Edited)

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All (#69)

"It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously."

And that little statement makes the entire point you are making invalid.

Why?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: redleghunter (#67)

Here is another argument by a physicist:

http://www.dctech.com/physics/features/old/evolution.php

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: NewsJunky (#68)

don't understand the gobbledygook. Just explain it to me in your own words.

Seems pretty straight shooting. Give it a whirl.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-07   19:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: NewsJunky (#70)

It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously." And that little statement makes the entire point you are making invalid.

Why?

Because your point was something can happen "spontaneously." Which means it should be spontaneous and not rely on a demand. If "it only demands a 'spreading out' of energy" then it is no longer spontaneous. There is now some order to it.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-07   19:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: redleghunter (#72)

Seems pretty straight shooting. Give it a whirl.

I don't understand it. If it is straightforward then explain it me.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: redleghunter (#73)

Which means it should be spontaneous and not rely on a demand.

But spreading out of energy can happen spontaneously.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: NewsJunky (#74)

I don't understand it. If it is straightforward then explain it me.

What is there to explain. God is telling Job a human, how could he know of the Great Creation, since Job was a creation. You are being dishonest. What I posted from Job is in the English language. You are either unwilling to read it or don't care to read it. It is there. I entertained your scientific jargon which revealed a contradiction. At least do me the courtesy of reading my posts.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-07   19:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: NewsJunky (#75)

But spreading out of energy can happen spontaneously.

Sometimes, always or never?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-07   19:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: redleghunter (#76)

God is telling Job a human, how could he know of the Great Creation, since Job was a creation.

That's not an answer. Explain it to me.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: redleghunter (#77)

Always

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-07   19:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: redleghunter (#63)

Thus, you CLAIM ORDER comes naturally, and spontaneously, from infinite CHAOS given infinite TIME.

This cannot be, from the rules/LAWS of nature that you CLAIM to believe in.

Given the LAWS of nature that you CLAIM to believe in, ORDER cannot just "fall out of" CHAOS.

The postmodern worldviews can all be found in a "bong."

LOL!

But even the stoners I know mostly admit that there is more to existence than mere finite man can see let alone understand.

I believe that these people are lying to themselves on purpose because they don't want there to be a God.

I don't even pretend to know why.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-07   22:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: NewsJunky (#64)

Bullsh!t.

NEW compounds form for sure, LOWER more simple molecules, ie. oxidation products such as RUST result over time.

ENTROPY means that things FALL APART over time.

It means that EVERY PHYSICAL THING falls apart given enough TIME.

EVERYTHING.

BUT germaine to THIS conversation, Chevys don't fall out of RUST. EVER.

Dude this is BASIC physics.

Get a clue.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-07   22:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: calcon (#66)

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LOL!

You really ought to quit before you embarrass yourself any more FOOL.

Personally I like it when you prove what a FOOL you are.

But, ... "whatEVER chongo."

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-07   22:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: calcon (#66)

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btw faggot, I see that you don't even TRY to argue with me about YOU having ever WORKED a F' ing day in your little snot nosed faggot life.

You are a limp wristed PUSSY. But at least you are smart enough not to try to lie about having worked at actual WORKING jobs.

Because a faggot like you just couldn't pull off such a radical LIE.

Now if we wanted to talk about feminine products, or mini skirts, or Justine Berber's hair cut, ... whatever ... you'd be our "man" eh faggot?

LMAO!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-07   22:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Mad Dog (#83)

My, My, you sure seem upset little man. I'm betting your holding your breath and stamping your feet right now.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-07   23:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Mad Dog (#81)

Cite a physicist who agrees with you.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-08   1:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Mad Dog (#80)

But even the stoners I know mostly admit that there is more to existence than mere finite man can see let alone understand.

I believe that these people are lying to themselves on purpose because they don't want there to be a God.

I don't even pretend to know why.

They do not want to the Light to shine on their sin and wickedness. Shows that deep down they still have a conscience. Most of the anti God philosphers from the 19th century died miserably knowing their conscience was not satisfied, they knew their sin and because they spent their lives hand waving no Diety or moral absolutes they could not bring themselves to godly sorrow and repentance. This is called vanity and arrogance as you know. Which means they could not bring themselves to submit to God's authority and plan of Salvation.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-08   13:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: NewsJunky (#85)

Cite a physicist who agrees with you.

LOL! Your IGNORANCE is legion!

It's BASIC F'ing high school physics that ENTROPY means that ALL things breakdown over time.

For supposedly believing in the LAWS of physics you sure don't know squat about what ENTROPY even means.

What do you think "spreading out of energy" means genius?

This isn't even debatable.

ENTROPY means that ALL things breakdown/fall apart given enough TIME.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   14:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: redleghunter (#86)

But even the stoners I know mostly admit that there is more to existence than mere finite man can see let alone understand.

I believe that these people are lying to themselves on purpose because they don't want there to be a God.

I don't even pretend to know why.

They do not want to the Light to shine on their sin and wickedness. Shows that deep down they still have a conscience. Most of the anti God philosphers from the 19th century died miserably knowing their conscience was not satisfied, they knew their sin and because they spent their lives hand waving no Diety or moral absolutes they could not bring themselves to godly sorrow and repentance. This is called vanity and arrogance as you know. Which means they could not bring themselves to submit to God's authority and plan of Salvation.

You are likely correct, but I admit that it still confuses me.

IF you believe in GOD you have to believe in SATAN and we all know what ends up happening to him and his in the fullness of time.

I LOVE seeing "satanist" kids in malls and such, I ALWAYS walk up and engage them in talking about SATAN. Usually satan is kewl, and worshipping him really pi$$e$ their parents and geezers off.

In the end I always say laughing, well I see your point, but if heaven and hell are real as satan is, then you already KNOW where you are going for sure forever if you follow him.

Then I walk away laughing, (hoping that that worm will work it's way through their skulls full of mush).

You can lead them to water but ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   14:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: calcon (#84)

LOL!

Faggot why do you even talk to me?

I told you already the 'ol DOG don't swing that way.

You try to pick a fight then you run.

LOL!

What a powerless little insect you are calFAG.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   14:28:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Mad Dog (#88)

You are likely correct, but I admit that it still confuses me.

IF you believe in GOD you have to believe in SATAN and we all know what ends up happening to him and his in the fullness of time.

I see your point. You are well aware of the conflict because you know the Lord. We may not understand "why" they act the way they do NOW, but at one point we were all lost. Ephesians chapter 2 explains it well:

1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.(NKJV)

Those who are not alive in Christ need our compassion and prayers. 15-20 years ago, you could share the above verses with a non-believer and they would "rap" with you about it. This current postmodern generation can't get past Genesis 1:1. The postmodern man and woman seek the elusive worldly "happiness" and shut out the Joy in Christ. In order to chase this worldly "happiness" they stuff their lives with the things of the world to satisfy lust, pride, vanity, arrogance and comfort. JP Moreland, a Christian philosopher, tells us that man was built for "drama." In the postmodern age, the drama is fed with worldly things (gossip, social media, reality TV, self improvement schemes, etc). As Christians, the Lord fills us with a different drama focused on Him and doing His Will for the Kingdom of God. I heard one Christian call this muscular Christianity---Working for the King of kings in every aspect of our lives.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-08   14:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: redleghunter (#90)

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Point taken.

I can never think of myself as "saved" or of "knowing the Lord" since I'm still such a sinner. I understand that salvation is a GIFT that has nothing to do with deserving it. But the admonition to "go and sin no more" is a problem for a weak old man such as me.

Nonetheless I have seen a great increase in hostility to people of faith in this nation. It's been the kulture of death's goal to do this, and they have succeeded in no small part.

However, if you can engage the non believers, the same questions that have bothered humanity for all time still bother them.

The Lord never closes a door without opening a window. Where the church is most oppressed is where it flowers the most.

GOD IS.

NOTHING can change that.

Where do you go when you have faced the abyss?

When the abyss has faced you back?

There is a hole in every human that only GOD can fill. Every human longs for the Lord. But some quit listening to HIM and so HE quits talking.

When I was a kid in San Francisco taking the same Muni bus to school every day meant that every day I would see this little "old", (to me anyhow), lady walk down the bus aisle asking every passenger as she passed, "have you spoken to the Lord today?"

I remember being embarrassed for her and by her brave testimony for the Lord.

Now I am ashamed I ever felt that way, (I was just a jr hs kid at the time).

I can still see her beautiful nut brown face and it's expression of peace and security even now.

That lady was SO brave, she knew the Lord for sure.

It helps me understand how we develop our faith as life goes on.

btw; I don't buy this myth of Christians having to be metro sexual drones and limp wristed PC sissies. The time is past where we were to sell our garments and buy our swords. Too long have Christians allowed heathens and worse to define us.

I won't have it.

I remember that little lady slowly walking down the bus aisle doing this almost every day for years.

I imagine that she wouldn't have it either.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   15:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Mad Dog (#91)

I can never think of myself as "saved" or of "knowing the Lord" since I'm still such a sinner. I understand that salvation is a GIFT that has nothing to do with deserving it. But the admonition to "go and sin no more" is a problem for a weak old man such as me.

Would you like to discuss this further?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-08   15:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Mad Dog (#87)

LOL! Your IGNORANCE is legion!

I was asking you to cite a physicist who thinks that evolution is inconsistent with the laws of physics.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-08   16:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: NewsJunky (#93)

I was asking you to cite a physicist who thinks that evolution is inconsistent with the laws of physics.

My mistake.

I ask physicists questions about physics not theology or biology.

I'm funny that way.

Silly old me, we learned before junior high school was done that it is a logical impossibility to PROVE a negative.

ENTROPY means that ALL things fall apart given enough time. It means that physical things NATURALLY move towards maximum entropy over time, towards CHAOS.

MANY physicists agree that complex structures CANNOT evolve out of CHAOS over time BECAUSE of the tendency of ALL things to move towards DISORDER not ORDER.

You want a name?

Look em up yourself.

You can't have it both ways.

SCIENCE either matters or it does NOT, and SCIENCE says that complex ORDER cannot/does NOT fall naturally over time out of disorder or chaos. This includes macro-eveolution.

In fact, I find it really interesting that you church of evolution people NEVER mention that Darwin's Origin of Species in fact states his own DISBELIEF in MACRO-evolution. Darwin believed in micro-evolution which he believed that he was able to observe.

My only point is that so called macro "evolution" is NOT science based, in fact it is impossible to be "scientific" since it violates basic, known, LAWS of physics.

If you like or agree with that, it is of no importance to me. It's established SCIENCE.

I wish you and yours the best.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   21:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: redleghunter (#92)

I can never think of myself as "saved" or of "knowing the Lord" since I'm still such a sinner. I understand that salvation is a GIFT that has nothing to do with deserving it. But the admonition to "go and sin no more" is a problem for a weak old man such as me.

Would you like to discuss this further?

Thank you for the offer, but I don't think that just talking will get it done.

I understand that you have to release your own guilt and not use it as an idol.

It turns out that it's way more simple to forgive strangers than it is to forgive yourself.

I'll just keep praying on it, and trust the Lord.

"If you ask your FATHER for a loaf of bread would he give you a stone?"

(The answer is NO btw.)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   21:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Mad Dog (#94)

MANY physicists agree that complex structures CANNOT evolve out of CHAOS over time BECAUSE of the tendency of ALL things to move towards DISORDER not ORDER.

You want a name?

Look em up yourself.

You made the claim so you need to back it up .

SCIENCE either matters or it does NOT, and SCIENCE says that complex ORDER cannot/does NOT fall naturally over time out of disorder or chaos. This includes macro-eveolution.

Science is practiced by scientists and I am waiting for you to find one who agree with your opinion since its obvious you aren't an expert on the matter.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-08   22:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mad Dog (#94)

I wish you and yours the best.

I appreciate your respect. Same to you although I am little surprised to see it.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-08   22:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: NewsJunky (#96)

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LOL!

I assure you, you will keep waiting.

I don't do remedial Physics.

All you are doing is evading the argument by clumsy temporizing.

It's way more than kind of weak.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   22:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: NewsJunky (#97)

I wish you and yours the best.

I appreciate your respect. Same to you although I am little surprised to see it.

.

Why?

Does it REALLY matter to you what I believe?

Do you really think that I care what you believe?

Neither of us really matter to each other do we?

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-08   22:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Mad Dog (#95)

can never think of myself as "saved" or of "knowing the Lord" since I'm still such a sinner. I understand that salvation is a GIFT that has nothing to do with deserving it. But the admonition to "go and sin no more" is a problem for a weak old man such as me.

Would you like to discuss this further?

Thank you for the offer, but I don't think that just talking will get it done.

I understand that you have to release your own guilt and not use it as an idol.

It turns out that it's way more simple to forgive strangers than it is to forgive yourself.

I'll just keep praying on it, and trust the Lord.

"If you ask your FATHER for a loaf of bread would he give you a stone?"

(The answer is NO btw.)

Understand. It is clear to me you know the Gospel and how to "get right" with God. You have my earnest prayers as you continue to seek The Lord.

In my own experience, I found that I had to seek God's forgiveness before I could be at peace with myself. Having peace with God through His Son, freed me and by His Grace put me at peace with fellow mankind. In Revelation Christ is referred to as Faithful and True. He was certainly Faithful and True to change my life with putting Him as the focus. I would be dishonest in telling you it has been an "easy" ride, it has not, but the comfort of knowing that He walks with me daily gets you through the rough spots.

I have a close family member that for years wanted to "clean up" his life before he surrendered himself to God's Grace. No way could he go before the King of kings and Lord of lords still in a state of "practicing sin." He could in his estimate never get there. At the age of 83 and after an accident he saw that he had to surrender to Christ and trust Him to make him a new creature. I have seen the change in this close relative. He knows he is forgiven, for he trusts in the Power of Christ to save and heal his life. He also knows the bridges he burned and wrongs he did to others through his journey on earth won't be made "all better" overnight...the sin is forgiven, but the earthly consequences of our past "actions" will still leave some scars with fellow man. But now with Christ in his life, making that peace with others and seeking their forgiveness, and forgiving, is the quality we have as the new creature only God can make.

God Bless

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-09   12:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: redleghunter (#100)

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Thank you for your kind words.

Some sinners like me get the life time to understand how wrong we have been, many do not.

Some of us end up facing the abyss, and when it faces us back, we come to understand that without OUR Lord, we are truly alone.

I know, (from experience), OUR Lord is the ONLY "thing" you can really count on in this life.

If I could go back and UN-sin I would.

But what is IS.

I have no fear.

HE is infinitely GOOD.

I trust HIM.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-09   17:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mad Dog (#101)

Some sinners like me get the life time to understand how wrong we have been, many do not.

Some of us end up facing the abyss, and when it faces us back, we come to understand that without OUR Lord, we are truly alone.

So you've lived your life as a useless douchebag and now that you're getting ready to die you've found god.

Typical of you bible thumpers, scared shitless your "douchebaggery" is going to land you in hell. Your god would have to be a moron to fall for that scam.

Get your spf 10billion ready, you're gonna need it.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-09   21:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: calcon (#102)

So you've lived your life as a useless douchebag and now that you're getting ready to die you've found god.

Typical of you bible thumpers, scared shitless your "douchebaggery" is going to land you in hell. Your god would have to be a moron to fall for that scam.

Get your spf 10billion ready, you're gonna need it.

LOL!

Feel DE LOVE!

It deeply touches me how humane and kind and loving you are inside calFAG!

Really it does.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would expect nothing more from an infamous known piece of sh!t fraud such as you calFAG.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks SO much for "sharing" calFAG!

LMAO!

Have a NICE day calFAG!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-09   22:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: calcon (#102) (Edited)

Former Pastor Chuck Baldwin was on Alex Jones today,discussing the Treason of Panetta and Obama,..and the other Magi of the Senior US military that bows to the UN.
He mentioned that the First people to pull on the Redcoats,...was a Pastor and his church members who were also Militia.
They pulled on the British at Lexington Green,...as the British were on their way to Concord to take Adams and Hancock,and seize weapons.
This is like not taught in the history books...
Baldwin admitted the Christian Church in America has sold out to vanity and money extortion.
The system bought them off....and now they teach their flocks to be compliant to Romans 13[Submission to governments], and to be good metro sexuals for Jesus.

The US military is falling away.....more and more give lip service to the Constitution,
they are being conditioned....as the christian church is....to go along to get along.

The Church of 1775 would have rebelled on Obama.....maybe even Bush after the lies of Iraq and A Stan were exposed.
Back in the early 90's when I was visiting the bluejackets from USS Isherwood's WW-2 crew,
many confided to me that things were going to shit.
Now...Aged US Veterans from WW-2,..or any era for that matter,...are humiliated by TSA at airports,....yelled at and abused by complete morons. All these greeny metro sexuals running loose on the lease while Obama scowls at America.
Its time for another Revolution,...but who has the resolve to go out to Lexington Green now?

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-03-09   23:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Parrot with speed dial (#104)

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WTF has any of that to do with calFAG's post?

We are awash in cowards and fools like him.

How's Canukistan draft dodger?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-10   0:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Mad Dog, redleghunter (#91)

I can never think of myself as "saved" or of "knowing the Lord" since I'm still such a sinner. I understand that salvation is a GIFT that has nothing to do with deserving it. But the admonition to "go and sin no more" is a problem for a weak old man such as me.

Nonetheless I have seen a great increase in hostility to people of faith in this nation. It's been the kulture of death's goal to do this, and they have succeeded in no small part.

However, if you can engage the non believers, the same questions that have bothered humanity for all time still bother them.

The Lord never closes a door without opening a window. Where the church is most oppressed is where it flowers the most.

GOD IS.

NOTHING can change that.

Where do you go when you have faced the abyss?

When the abyss has faced you back?

There is a hole in every human that only GOD can fill. Every human longs for the Lord. But some quit listening to HIM and so HE quits talking.

When I was a kid in San Francisco taking the same Muni bus to school every day meant that every day I would see this little "old", (to me anyhow), lady walk down the bus aisle asking every passenger as she passed, "have you spoken to the Lord today?"

I remember being embarrassed for her and by her brave testimony for the Lord.

Now I am ashamed I ever felt that way, (I was just a jr hs kid at the time).

I can still see her beautiful nut brown face and it's expression of peace and security even now.

That lady was SO brave, she knew the Lord for sure.

It helps me understand how we develop our faith as life goes on.

btw; I don't buy this myth of Christians having to be metro sexual drones and limp wristed PC sissies. The time is past where we were to sell our garments and buy our swords. Too long have Christians allowed heathens and worse to define us.

I won't have it.

I remember that little lady slowly walking down the bus aisle doing this almost every day for years.

I imagine that she wouldn't have it either.

Great story about the old lady and your own testimony, Dawg.

We're ALL sinners, pal. At the moment the most pious Christian dies, even his tiniest little sin is too filthy to pollute Heaven. You DO know the Lord. And He knows your heart.

Liberator  posted on  2012-03-10   0:29:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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