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Title: Dawkins Admits He Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist
Source: GFP.com
URL Source: http://godfatherpolitics.com/4011/d ... nnot-prove-god-does-not-exist/
Published: Mar 5, 2012
Author: Giacomo
Post Date: 2012-03-05 13:55:53 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 36917
Comments: 108

Dawkins Admits He Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist

March 5, 2012 by Giacomo

For centuries, people have claimed to be atheists because no one could prove to them that God exists. One of the most ardent members of that group has been British author Richard Dawkins. I’ve read and listened to Dawkins challenge believers to prove to him that God exists and that if they could he might believe in God.

But in reality, the opposite is true. The onus is on people like Dawkins to prove there is no God and this is something he has finally realized he cannot do. With the realization that he cannot prove God does not exist, Dawkins shocked many throughout the world with his announcement that he is not an atheist after all, but rather he would classify himself as an agnostic.

The definition of an agnostic is someone who believes that the existence of God is unknown and that human knowledge is limited to physical evidence plus things that can be experienced and this is where Dawkins find himself.

However, many Christians, like evangelist and author Ray Comfort, challenge Dawkins statement about being an agnostic and that it has everything to do with evidence and proving that God does not exist. Rather, Comfort says that people like Dawkins are making a decision on the moral choice to deny the existence of God. If they acknowledged God in any form, they would have to realize that they would have a moral obligation to be responsible to Him.

Comfort goes even further and describes Dawkins as not only being ignorant but of being an ignoramus. He explains,

“Richard Dawkins is ignorant when it comes to the existence of God. However, it’s a willful ignorance. He has in the past stated that he believes that nothing created everything, which is a scientific impossibility. It’s not only impossible, it’s crazy to believe that. That’s why the Bible uses the word ‘fool’ to describe someone who says that God doesn’t exist.

“Professing atheists will often slip into pleading ignorance, but that plea doesn’t solve their case, because they just move from being a ‘fool’ to being an ‘ignoramus.’

“The word ‘ignoramus’ is a legal term derived from a Latin word meaning ‘we do not know. An ignoramus is like a man who looks at a building and says that he ‘doesn’t know’ if a builder exists. Obviously, the building is proof that there was a builder, because buildings don’t build themselves.

“The reason why anyone would be that ignorant is clear. It’s not a case of a lack of evidence. The problem with Professor Dawkins isn’t intellectual, but moral. He doesn’t want to admit that God exists, because if he does, he’s admitting that he’s morally responsible to Him.”

I found the definition of agnostic interesting because it is not only based on physical evidence, but also relies on things that can be experienced. I don’t know about you, but I’ve experienced the presence of God numerous times in my life. I’ve witnessed things that defy all natural explanation and can only be explained by a God who watches over and gets involved in our lives. To be honest, I didn’t pick my wife some 42 years ago, but rather I can see where God caused a number of things to happen, that shouldn’t have happened, that led to us getting together. (Knowing that God picked her out for me also tells me that I have to do whatever it takes to make sure nothing happens to destroy our marriage.)

Deep inside all of us we experience the presence of God as we were made in His image with an ingrained knowledge of him from the very beginning. One of my favorite examples of this was Helen Keller, who at the young age of 19 months developed a fever that left her blind and deaf. She was so young at the time that she had little memory of vision or hearing. She grew up in a black and soundless world without any communication with others, other than touch until Ann Sullivan found a way to communicate to her.

In one of her letters, Helen told Bishop Brooks that she had always known about God, even before she had any words. Before she could call God anything, she knew God was there. She didn’t know what it was. God had no name for her — nothing had a name for her. She had no concept of a name. But in her darkness and isolation, she knew she was not alone. Someone was with her. She felt God’s love. And when she received the gift of language and heard about God, she said she already knew.

If Richard Dawkins is correct, Helen Keller should never have been able to experience the presence of God, but she did because the knowledge of God is part of who we all are. Therefore, Ray Comfort is absolutely correct when he says that Dawkins and others are making a moral decision to deny the existence of God since they know that God exists in them and cannot prove to others that He doesn’t

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

British author Richard Dawkins

AFIAK, he's also failed to prove that he's not an ape raised by British liberals.

Is he paid in bananas?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-05   14:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82 (#0)

Likewise, it cannot be proven that Thor, the God of Thunder does not exist.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-05   15:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: calcon (#2)

Likewise, it cannot be proven that Thor, the God of Thunder does not exist.

That is what i was going to say. You can't prove a negative..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-05   15:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: NewsJunky (#3)

Thor's a much cooler god anyway.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-05   16:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: calcon (#4)

LOL!

"The FOOL has said in his heart that there is no God."

ONLY a FOOL would do so.

FOOL!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-05   17:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NewsJunky (#3)

That is what i was going to say. You can't prove a negative..

Yes you can.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   17:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: NewsJunky (#3)

“The word ‘ignoramus’ is a legal term derived from a Latin word meaning ‘we do not know. An ignoramus is like a man who looks at a building and says that he ‘doesn’t know’ if a builder exists. Obviously, the building is proof that there was a builder, because buildings don’t build themselves.

So who then did make that "watch?"

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-05   17:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Yes you can.

Are you still pushing ropes? Isn't it easier to "pull" ropes unless you fully in control the environment holding the rope, the forces both magnitude and vectors beyond knowing what the fuck you are talking about?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-03-05   18:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8)

Are you saying it can't be proven there is no santa clause. Hmm lightweight?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   18:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)

I can easily prove the existence of Santa. You can not. Do you wanna know why I can and you can't?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-03-05   18:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

You can prove a negative. You saying you can't makes you a lightweight parrot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   18:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Unlike you, you can't prove anything but falling off a roof-top and laid up for a week or two with the OUCHIES with your hard working wife nicely whispering in your ear ... "nice try CHAMP ... maybe, next time." And she abruptly left you with a hotspot of weak tea for your next climber position.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-03-05   18:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#7)

So who then did make that "watch?"

Mr. Natural Selection. :)

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-05   18:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited)

I really believe that people call themselves agnostic, because they are spiritual at some level- and some religious person has has inaccurately represented spirituality in a religion- sending them off to escape illogical ideas.

Most agnostics are clearly intellectual humans.

Of course he would have to admit that no one can prove that God does not exist. We can't prove that Santa doesn't exist.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2012-03-05   19:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#7)

So who then did make that "watch?"

Why must there be a creator?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-05   19:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: NewsJunky (#15)

Why must there be a creator?

Because "things" exist.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-05   19:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mad Dog (#5)

LOL!

"The FOOL has said in his heart that there is no God."

Yeah, yeah,

god is great, god is good, YEA GOD

calcon  posted on  2012-03-05   19:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#16)

Because "things" exist.

What if they have always existed?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-05   19:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited)

The onus is on people like Dawkins to prove there is no God

Actually, neither proposition is provable.

We live in the context of the universe in which we exist. We cannot possibly know what lies outside of the universe, how it started, or why it is here.

Some of us have faith that there is something more to our existence than random biological processes. But we can't prove it.

The atheists also cannot prove otherwise.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-05   19:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#19)

But we can't prove it.

Didn't God say in the Bible that just looking at nature was enough to prove it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   19:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Didn't God say in the Bible that just looking at nature was enough to prove it?

The dozens of Hindu gods may have said something different. Karl Marx had a book too, which said something different as well.

We believe in Jesus due to our faith.

It is not probable or disprovable that our faith is wrong.

It's our faith.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-05   19:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#21)

Everyone is given a measure of faith.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   19:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: calcon (#17)

god is great, god is good, YEA GOD

I am glad you said that. I am now sending funding to Harold Camping because of the repeated failures he has performed:

The Oakland-based Christian radio group that predicted the end of the world in May said it did its math wrong –- and rapture is now expected to occur Friday.

Preacher Harold Camping's Family Radio International posted a special message on its website on Thursday with a lengthy explanation about the Day of Judgment, which is expected to last five months. That "Day of Judgment" began on May 21 -– the date Camping had predicted as the end of the world, the website said. But it is now expected to last through Oct. 21.

"This is all describing a spiritual reality," the message states. God's elect are still physically wherever they happen to be in the world; but spiritually, He has gathered them all together by the act of saving them and brought them into His bed chamber----awaiting the very last day (October 21, 2011)."

Camping has long predicted the apocalypse, including in 1994, but the May 21 date received unprecedented publicity thanks to a worldwide $100-million campaign of caravans and billboards, financed by the sale and swap of TV and radio stations.

Tom Evans, who had acted as Camping's PR aide, said in May when the the day came and went without any cataclysmic events: "You can imagine we're pretty disappointed, but the word of God is still true. We obviously went too far, and that's something we need to learn from."

Camping suffered a stroke in June and remained hospitalized for months. But he is now back on the radio.

I figure, I can help him with his message.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-03-05   20:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Everyone is given a measure of faith.

Yes, but the question is whether they use the faith that they have or not.

Being a Christian is all about believing that Jesus was the son of god.

Too many people have hardened their hearts to this for a lot of no good reasons.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-05   20:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: calcon (#17)

Yeah, yeah,

god is great, god is good, YEA GOD

Spoken as the true fool that we all know you to be.

FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   2:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler, A K A Stone (#24)

Being a Christian is all about believing that Jesus was the son of god.

Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

There.

FIXED it for ya.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   2:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mad Dog (#26)

Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

And judging by you, swearing like a drunk sailor and being an absolute asshole (except on Sunday of course).

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

(Boris Y) "I'd vote for obama"

(Mad Dog, Paul voter) IF RonniePAULIE runs as a repukelican't, (OR even as a demonRAT), against the messiah "king" obammy; I'd vote FOR him.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2012-03-06   2:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mad Dog (#25)

Say a prayer to Allah for my heathen ass then and save me.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-06   10:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: NewsJunky (#18)

Because "things" exist. What if they have always existed?

Do you have any evidence that they always existed?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-06   13:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: redleghunter (#29)

Do you have any evidence that they always existed?

Do you know it hasn't?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-06   14:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mad Dog (#26)

MD- Jesus is alive. :)

diva betsy ross  posted on  2012-03-06   15:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Wood_Chopper (#27)

md; Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

boy; And judging by you, swearing like a drunk sailor and being an absolute asshole (except on Sunday of course).

You really are stoooooopid as a fence post aren't you woody boy?

Lets recap woody boy, a mere man, a sinner, knows what Christianity IS and so a God hating fool such as you wants to judge my putative "level" of Christianity, AND then to judge Christianity on it's LEAST and most flawed member, (me)?

LOL! What a F' ing FOOL you are woody! Pretty typical thought process for a libTURD loser such as YOU little boy. A admitted BAD individual, (ME), claims to be a Christian; so then God hating FOOLS such as you TRY to make THAT CHRISTIANITY'S fault or problem?

LOL!

That's what you libTURD scum do isn't it woody boy? You TRY to kill the TRUTH by attacking those who present it, eh loser?

Too bad for FOOLS such as you woody boy that the TRUTH is the TRUTH no matter who states it. But if SATAN himself speaks the actual TRUTH it is still the TRUTH you gibbering FOOL.

Where did I ever claim to be a GOOD Christian you gibbering piece of sh!t?

I'm a SINNER, my sins are CRIMSON, I have broken EVERY COMMANDMENT, I have KILLED, I have MURDERED (in the name of my nation), and MORE.

Yep I'm a SINNER ASSHOLE, EVERY day, including Sundays woody boy.

By MY SINS I am DOOMED, save for the MERCY and sacrifice for ME of the one true GOD.

But even I can HOPE for salvation through OUR Lord's sacrifice for us ALL.

I represent only myself.

BUT that does not change the TRUTH fool,

Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

If I was YOU little boy I'd be way more worried about my own sins and destination.

But, thank the Lord I'm not anybody but myself.

Don't like that little boy?

Here's 50 cents little boy, call somebody that cares.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   15:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: calcon (#28)

Say a prayer to Allah for my heathen ass then and save me.

Unlike little punk posers such as you calfag, I do what I say I believe.

I pray for you, and all like you, every day calfag.

But I sure can't make the Lord do anything, all I can do is ask.

It is important to remember that NO is an answer also.

Maybe the Lord will give you time, maybe not?

That's actually kind of YOUR problem FOOL.

Although I am hopeful for your development into a sane adult.

Of course I'm a Cubbies fan too.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   15:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: diva betsy ross (#31)

Jesus is alive. :)

Saint Paul said that without the living GOD, Christians would ALL be FOOLS, or worse.

JESUS IS.

Otherwise there really is NO such thing as "Christianity".

JESUS IS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   15:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: NewsJunky (#30)

Do you have any evidence that they always existed? Do you know it hasn't?

Your questions prompt me to ask if you believe something came from nothing? Also, is the universe ordered or chaotic?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-06   15:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Mad Dog (#33)

I'm really sorry to see that your syphilis is destroying the few brain cells you have left.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-06   16:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: redleghunter (#35)

believe something came from nothing

No that is why I posited that there was no beginning.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-06   16:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mad Dog (#34)

I have seen Jesus, MD. You are right. He is alive. Take heart. He really is everything He said He was. All of the promises of the Bible are for the faithful. Be good and keep faith. peace.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2012-03-06   16:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: redleghunter (#35)

Also, is the universe ordered or chaotic?

It is governed by the laws of physics so in one sense it is ordered. That doesn't mean that there must be something to supernatural that makes it ordered.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-06   16:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: NewsJunky (#39)

It is governed

Governed implies a Governor.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-06   16:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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