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Title: What Version of the Christian Holy Bible Do You read?
Source: LF
URL Source: http://hereandnow
Published: Feb 18, 2012
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2012-02-18 17:52:56 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 272695
Comments: 449

Assuming you have a Christian Holy Bible of one flavor or another, what version do you read?

As several examples, here are several variations: the New King James Version, New Living Translation, New International Version, New Revised Standard Version and so forth.

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#409. To: GarySpFC (#408)

Sorry dude, he more than likely did not exist, and that religion was formulated and groomed for the purpose to exercise social control over people.

I have zero use for Christianity, and no belief in it in the slightest bit. I never have, and that sort of thing will never happen.

You have leave to feel what you want about it, but I have no toleration for intolerance of others over religion; whether the Jihadist is Islamic, or Christian. Try to force me to comply with belief, and get reciprocal force back atcha.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-14   6:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: Ferret Mike (#409)

Sorry dude, he more than likely did not exist, and that religion was formulated and groomed for the purpose to exercise social control over people.

I am not here to force anything on you, rather I am here to witness to the FACTS of the Gospel, which are solid historical EVIDENCES. Myth? There is enough evidence to send ten men to the gas chamber. That said, I will not force what I know for certainity on you. Your blood is on your head.

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-14   8:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#411. To: Ferret Mike (#409)

I have zero use for Christianity, and no belief in it in the slightest bit. I never have, and that sort of thing will never happen.

Like the word says willingly ignorant. We all choose where we go in the afterlife. You have willingly chose the hot place.

I pity you fool.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-14   8:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#412. To: A K A Stone (#411)

"I pity you fool."

Likewise, you arrogant dumb shit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-14   13:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#413. To: GarySpFC (#410)

Your blood is on your head."

That is so sales pitch oriented only. It has nothing to do logically with the inherent nature of living things to move to a higher plateau of consciousness.

As a Wicca practitioner, I have been very forgiving of Stone's childishness in his ineffective bull in a china shop routine trumpeting your religion.

I am left very satisfied I am comporting myself religiously far better than some of you Christians.

No complains against you specifically, but some of you all are ate the fuck up when it comes to allegedly witnessing your faith to those of us who will never want to hear any more about the sales pitch we reject.

I'm glad your faith gives you comfort, but it does nothing for me, and never will. I never believed it when I was coerced to go to church as a child, and I will never return to a faith I never had in the slightest bit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-14   14:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#414. To: Ferret Mike (#413)

What do you get from your Wicca faith?

Don  posted on  2012-03-14   14:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#415. To: Don (#414)

Mike probably doesn't see Wicca as a faith, but it clearly is his faith.

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-14   14:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#416. To: GarySpFC (#415)

Everyone has some sort of faith. It is hotwired into humans to have faith in something even if it is only yourself.

Don  posted on  2012-03-14   14:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: Don (#414)

Stone has been a poison pill dampening that aspect of religious discussion. He has harassed me about my strong religious beliefs since before he had a forum.

Any place like this one where he is the moderator is going to be a place of hatred and loathing of anyone not Christian or Jewish.

I would love to answer you; but not in this climate. he has to grow up and learn to respect others before that sort of discussion is remotely possible at flamerland.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-14   19:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#418. To: Ferret Mike (#417)

You're ashamed of your "faith". Good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-14   19:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#419. To: Ferret Mike (#417)

he has to grow up and learn to respect others before that sort of discussion is remotely possible

Translation: I like Wiccan because there's no 10 commandments or hell, so anything goes!

God bless Stone for keeping FM from revealing the truth. /s

Your cop out excuse is weak, very weak.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-14   19:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#420. To: Ferret Mike (#417)

"Stone has been a poison pill dampening that aspect of religious discussion. He has harassed me about my strong religious beliefs since before he had a forum. Any place like this one where he is the moderator is going to be a place of hatred and loathing of anyone not Christian or Jewish. I would love to answer you; but not in this climate. he has to grow up and learn to respect others before that sort of discussion is remotely possible at flamerland."

("Every fetus that DOESN'T go on welfare in 18 years because he/she was aborted yesterday... brings a smile to my face today" ~ GrandIsland - LibertyPost)

Murron  posted on  2012-03-14   19:45:36 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#421. To: A K A Stone (#418)

You're ashamed of your "faith". Good.

Too bad more Christians don't practice their 'faith'.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-14   20:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: A K A Stone (#418)

You're ashamed of your "faith". Good.

Fuck off. I am disgusted by your childish and intolerant nature.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   5:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#423. To: Murron (#420)

Nice picture of you, hope your split tongue heals well.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   5:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: hondo68 (#419)

Cop out? your spin is stupid.

I am supposed to discuss something that causes the childish and immature forum moderator to whine because everyone is not as toxic in their religion as him and that's a cop out? I don't think so.

Talk about weak bait. Very amusing Hondo, very amusing.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   5:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: mininggold (#421)

"Too bad more Christians don't practice their 'faith'."

Stone is very self centered and malicious, and he uses his faith to bait others with.

Perhaps the boy will grow up someday, but I doubt it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   5:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#426. To: A K A Stone (#418)

You presume I am here to continue posting as usual on your site. The religious topic is hardly the only thing I have written off as a useless exercise in discussion with you.

You are no one I feel comfortable talking to on many things, not just my faith.

I am concerned you are increasingly removed from reality and irrationally insulting and aggressive. You are not a good choice of a person to discuss much of anything with.

Hope this reality check helps.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   5:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#427. To: Ferret Mike (#426)

Mike, you ignorant slut...

When are you going to make good on your promise to stop posting on this site?

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-03-15   7:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: Ferret Mike (#422)

Fuck off. I am disgusted by your childish and intolerant nature.

Mike. I am intolerant of evil. I want to squash it like a bug. Mike you are a cockroach. You aren't a cultural American. Your religion is the path to Satan. Your religion is that of murderers. I spit on the wiccan "religion".

Now watch your mouth or I will give you the boot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-15   7:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: Ferret Mike (#426)

You are no one I feel comfortable talking to on many things, not just my faith.

If you don't like it here leave and never come back. You will hardly be missed. This is a pro American website. Not a satanist website. I will mock your religion as long as you are here. I don't care for it. I certainly have no respect for it or its adherents. It isn't even a religion you have. It is just a bunch of stupid beliefs by drug abusers and losers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-15   7:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: Ferret Mike (#425)

Stone is very self centered and malicious, and he uses his faith to bait others with.

Not to bait little dweeb. To bash your sick Obama voting ass with. You voted for the destruction of America. You aren't a real American. You should consider leaving this land, it isn't for you and your satanists. It is for christians and people with values. You have none. None at all.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-15   7:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: Ferret Mike (#424)

I am supposed to discuss something that causes the childish and immature forum moderator to whine because everyone is not as toxic in their religion as him and that's a cop out?

I'm red hot. God doesn't want luke warm. But you don't know about God you only know about you pretend "goddess" who is actually the devil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-15   7:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: A K A Stone (#430)

You should consider leaving this land, it isn't for you and your satanists.

They would never leave because they know anywhere else they go they probably wouldn't be around very long..... besides that the handouts are too enticing!!

A taxpayer that votes for Obama is like a chicken that votes for Col Sanders!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-15   7:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: A K A Stone (#430)

Your childish and quite pedestrian baiting does not bother me, and impresses very few in here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   8:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: A K A Stone (#411)

Like the word says willingly ignorant. We all choose where we go in the afterlife. You have willingly chose the hot place.

I pity you fool.

Jeremiah 17 says it all:

5 Thus says the Lord:

“Cursed is the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, Whose heart departs from the Lord. 6 For he shall be like a shrub in the desert, And shall not see when good comes, But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, In a salt land which is not inhabited.

7 “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, And whose hope is the Lord. 8 For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters, Which spreads out its roots by the river, And will not fear[b] when heat comes; But its leaf will be green, And will not be anxious in the year of drought, Nor will cease from yielding fruit.

9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it? 10 I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.

11 “As a partridge that broods but does not hatch, So is he who gets riches, but not by right; It will leave him in the midst of his days, And at his end he will be a fool.”

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-15   21:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: Ferret Mike (#424)

What does your faith say about abortion? Is it murder or a choice?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-15   21:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: redleghunter (#435)

I am against abortion. Generally my faith is like the Christian one; some support a woman's choice to do so, some don't.

This is another reason I don't care for the jerk owning this forum. I give my opinion on this topic, and he capriciously and maliciously claims I believe the opposite.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-15   22:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: Ferret Mike (#436)

This is another reason I don't care for the jerk owning this forum. I give my opinion on this topic, and he capriciously and maliciously claims I believe the opposite.

Just the facts.

You voted for Obama. Pro abortion.

You voted for Gore. Pro abortion.

You voted for Kerry. Pro abortion.

You voted for Clinton. Pro abortion.

You voted for Dukakis. Pro abortion.

You voted for Mondale. Pro abortion.

You voted for Carter. Pro abortion.

Was McGovern Pro abortion too?

Your record is the record of a pro abortionist. Actions speak louder then words.

I expect you to vote for pro abortion Obama this election.

You are a known liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-15   23:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: A K A Stone (#437) (Edited)

I am anti-abortion. And any interlocutor with so much hubris and insanity they would argue against a person having a view they have had for seventeen years is too stupid to take serious except as a wacko.

Face it Stonie, you can't stand having people support an end to abortion who once believed in it.

But that is exactly what we need to have happen to end the procedure. Good political advocacy involves spending time and energy working to change opinions; not crucifying those who once supported abortion.

If you succeed in pissing people off enough to change ther minds again to be pro-choice, what have you accomplished? Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

What a waste of time and energy that could be spent in advocacy to end abortion.

You are insane and a clown who cares more about baiting fellow anti-abortion advocates than in ending the practice. Go away boy; you bother me. You probably upset any farm animals you get close to too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-16   8:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#439. To: Ferret Mike (#438) (Edited)

"I am anti-abortion. ..Face it Stonie, you can't stand having people support an end to abortion who once believed in it...

If you succeed in pissing people off enough to change ther minds again to be pro-choice, what have you accomplished? Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?"

If you are sincere in what you say in the first place, NOTHING stone says, or anyone else for that matter, will change your mind, if you change your mind because someone pissed you off, you wern't honest to begin with. jmho!

("Every fetus that DOESN'T go on welfare in 18 years because he/she was aborted yesterday... brings a smile to my face today" ~ GrandIsland - LibertyPost)

Murron  posted on  2012-03-16   11:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#440. To: Murron (#439)

Actually Moron with a U and extra r, people can be made to look agasp at some of the characters they are aligned with in the pro-life movement and decide that though they do not like abortion, they would rather the problem as it exists than to empower insatiable fanatics that are out for their blood for having once been pro-choice.

If you want to make the difference in the life of a child and keep her or him alive, a wee bit of diplomacy and pragmatism works wonders to make people feel comfortable with a new way of looking at the issue.

We are not going to get the numbers needed to stop the foul practice of abortion with routine fifteen minutes of hate sessions complete with torches and pitchforks to chide and belittle people for once believing in a pro-choice philosophy.

One way of building consensus saves the lives of children, the other starts a cultural war and gives the pro-abortion ammunition.

Of course though, your angle is a typical reflexive reactionary attitude toward anything I say. And you will not grasp the concept I explain that has always been a component in well organized and run activism.

Now run along back to your still now mammy, you hear? You are a big a bother as boy Stonie.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-16   12:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: Ferret Mike (#436)

I am against abortion. Generally my faith is like the Christian one; some support a woman's choice to do so, some don't.

I cannot speak for your faith, but those who profess to be Christian and are pro abortion are fooling themselves. They are obviously following a different Gospel preached by Jesus Christ. For the Christian the premise for pro Life is the Bible. What is your premise for being pro Life?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-16   13:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#442. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#440)

"And you will not grasp the concept I explain that has always been a component in well organized and run activism."

What you mean, you bloviating narcissist pig, is that I, like a few others, have your act down pat, we don't fall for your sugar coated politically correct bull shit, you never say anything without an ulterior motive.

You're not here for anything as nobel as 'pro-life', you're here, in your own words, to "encourage anyone here to shun (stone's) your forum"....

You've made your boast that if you ever get into a forum with stone again, you will 'kick his ass', well, I'm waiting, when does it begin, because so far, it's your ass that's getting kicked.

You're a small minded person who has high ideas about himself, yet you've never created anything of importance yourself, you're no good at it, but you have proven yourself good at going from forum to forum, under anonymous psuedos, attempting to round up other's who will join you in the fun, attempting to destroy what another person has built up.

You use people, you lie to them, and about them, you'll say anything to get them to let their guard down, you're a snake in the grass....

Loathing you, and everything about you Mike, is my only 'angle'. I may be a 'mammy' to you and the lil idiots who think you're cute, but I have your number, and you know it, and you hate me for it! jmho!

("Every fetus that DOESN'T go on welfare in 18 years because he/she was aborted yesterday... brings a smile to my face today" ~ GrandIsland - LibertyPost)

Murron  posted on  2012-03-16   17:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#443. To: Murron, cornflakefag (#442)

I have your number, and you know it, and you hate me for it!

It hates me more, the cornflake girl bozoed me! LOL

It can't handle the truth.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-16   17:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#444. To: hondo68, murron (#443)

Any guy who calls himself corn flake girl doesn't have even a passing acquaintance with truth.

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-03-16   18:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: Murron (#442)

"You use people, you lie to them, and about them, you'll say anything to get them to let their guard down, you're a snake in the grass...."

Sounds like you are scratching the meth mites a wee bit too hard, mammy. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-17   0:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#446. To: Rudgear (#444)

the fact that I outed the returning bannee account after I was done with it says I do. I always outed all my returning bannee accounts on FR too as the point was not to post as someone else to fool anyone for any length of time. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-17   0:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: redleghunter (#441)

If I saw someone beating a child, i'd jump on and defend the young one even if it put my life in jeopardy. That is just good ethical conduct, and one need not apply religion to get comprehension of what is or is not ethical.

I have talked people out of getting an abortion, and pointedly told others who got them I did not believe in the practice. I believe that the fight to end abortion requires respect of the fact it is legal when the law is followed, because being violent to end violence in this case actually will cost lives, as it gives the pro abortion ammunition they use to polarize the issue in their favor.

The fight to end abortion must be a legal one that does not undermine our system of governance, and the manner in which we enforce and prosecute crime.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-03-17   10:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: Ferret Mike (#447)

The fight to end abortion must be a legal one that does not undermine our system of governance, and the manner in which we enforce and prosecute crime.

In order for this to happen, there has to be some moral principles followed. How are moral principles determined in your worldview?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-19   17:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: Murron, Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#442)

Ok, your post was just TOO good to pass up...! And your conclusions are exactly correct.

However, I believe you missed some very interesting details that clarify what rat-boy is all about... So I'll go point-by-point...

What you mean, you bloviating narcissist pig, is that I, like a few others, have your act down pat, we don't fall for your sugar coated politically correct bull shit, you never say anything without an ulterior motive.

You're not here for anything as nobel as 'pro-life', you're here, in your own words, to "encourage anyone here to shun (stone's) your forum"....

You've made your boast that if you ever get into a forum with stone again, you will 'kick his ass', well, I'm waiting, when does it begin, because so far, it's your ass that's getting kicked.

rat-boy gives away plenty about who he really is... All you have to do is remember the details- which I happen to be very good at.

Rat-boy was washed out of the Army, for having a big mouth, and being a political activist (an incrediby stupid thing to do, while you're in the military!). You can't even really call him a "soldier," as he was simply a mechanic in a helicopter yard.

After he got booted from the Army, he slummed around for a while, working odd jobs, and bragged about the "trust" someone put in him, by hiring him to be a janitor.

LMAO. I can just imagine the building manager saying, "yeah, we TRUST him... to unplug the toilets!"

WOW. Aren't you impressed?

So rat-boy, to be blunt, has no marketable skills, a huge ego, and is basically broke.

Here, let me give you an example: He alluded that the pic I posted of a twin to my 2000 Mercury Gran Marquis- a 10 year-old [disposable] tuna-boat car that I paid $5000 cash for- was a fancy "luxury" car... LMAO. God knows what POS he drives... and still makes monthly payments on!

So you see, he's a complete loser, basically living off of others, because he's infected with a such dull stupidity, yet too arrogant to realize he's got nothing.

His high-falootin' ideology aside, he's a friggin' janitor. This is how he makes himself feel like a man... because he's too weak, and too effeminate, to ever actually BE a man.

(And yes, he posted his pic, once... imagine Lenny Kosnowki, AKA "Lenny," from the Laverne and Shirley Show:

As you now understand, the closest he gets to "kicking ass" is when he pounds somebody's fist with his face three, maybe four times, to get the message across...

He's a douche, pure and simple.

You're a small minded person who has high ideas about himself, yet you've never created anything of importance yourself...

Exactly correct, as the above explanation clarifies.

but you have proven yourself good at going from forum to forum, under anonymous psuedos, attempting to round up other's who will join you in the fun, attempting to destroy what another person has built up. You use people, you lie to them, and about them, you'll say anything to get them to let their guard down, you're a snake in the grass....

No, he does this because this is the ONLY way he can feel "power." It's all he's got.

At the end of the day, he's just another wannabe, a person who envies what he has neither the courage nor strength to work for and get on his own. Because he can't earn what he wants, he'll settle for stealing it from others who did earn what they have... And thus he's established that he'll be a loser for the rest of his pathetic life...

Being so shallow, so feckless, he'll never have a family, never know what life is really all about.

There are two kinds of people: those who give, and those who take. rat-boy will never be able to afford to give to others, because his life is devoid of anything worthy. Taking from others is all he knows. And taking condemns him to an unhappy, pathetic existence.

He isn't to be hated, just ignored as the feral little mutt he is. And if he tries to take from you, then dispatch him, without remorse.

To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.

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