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Title: Santorum: Birth Control ‘Harmful To Women’
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs ... 012/02/15/gIQASRukFR_blog.html
Published: Feb 15, 2012
Author: Jennifer Rubin
Post Date: 2012-02-15 18:40:04 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 8031
Comments: 32

Yesterday I speculated on some of the reasons Rick Santorum has problems with women voters. This interview from 2006 sure isn’t going to help Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: All (#0)

Rest of the article:

For starters, does he realize that married women (men too!) use birth control? The impression that Santorum finds the prevalent practice of birth control “harmful to women” is, frankly, mind-numbing. If he meant to focus on teen sexual promiscuity, he surely could have, and thereby might have sounded less out of touch.

Now, he qualifies his religious views by saying he doesn’t vote against contraception “because it’s not the taking of a human life” (in other contexts he has emphasized that as a legal matter he has no problem with contraception). But how does that square with his professed belief that a candidate’s values are essential to understanding and predicting his behavior? Perhaps that’s an abortion-only rule. (And really, where are George Stephanopoulos’s questions on this topic when you need them?)

In any event, this sort of thing undermines Santorum’s electability argument. (Current polling match-ups between President Obama and each of the two frontrunners, before the GOP has a nominee and before Santorum’s record is out there, are virtually useless.) This is how, in part, he lost Pennsylvania — by appearing extreme and schoolmarmish, too far to the right of average voters in a purple state. If he is the nominee in 2012, he might get some blue-collar fellows, but what about those women in Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.? And what about more secularized suburban communities? Fuggedaboutit.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-02-15   18:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#1)

This is one place I have to agree with Santorum on but not for the religious reasons he proposes.

Contraception like all modern drugs is a product of BIG PHARMA and anything big pharma is involved in is in all probability bad for you.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2012-02-16   1:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#1)

Santorum > Obama

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   6:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Santorum > Obama

Maybe greater, but still not great.

He'd have a team of armed soldiers peeking in windows making sure you weren't getting a blow job.

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-02-16   10:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Biff Tannen (#4)

Maybe greater, but still not great.

He'd have a team of armed soldiers peeking in windows making sure you weren't getting a blow job.

No he wouldn't.

I don't care if people use birth control by the way. But Catholics and other churches shouldn't be forced to buy them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   10:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

If they have a health care entity, and their customers want contraseptives, they should provide them.

That is the bottom line.

You can't use religion to argue against giving those getting health care services, it's as simple as that.

The Catholics are wrong on this one. But take it from someone who has a lifetime of knowing Catholic hypocrisy intimately; it is not the first time they have been wrong, and it's not the most profoundly they have been wrong.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-16   11:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

If they have a health care entity, and their customers want contraseptives, they should provide them.

That is the bottom line.

The Catholics aren't wrong. You are wrong. You are a dumbfuck if you think Catholics should have to pay for rubbers. Do they have to pay for them for faggots too? Hmm tard?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   11:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

and their customers want contraseptives, they should provide them.

You don't always get what you want.

I saw some loser bitch on TV complaining her birth control pills cost her 30 bucks a month and it was wrong for the Catholics not to provide them for her. The lady was a nurse. Probably one of the dumb asses that voted for Obama. Her mother should have used a diaphragm instead of having her.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   11:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)

Our system is set up for people to vote for whom they want to be president.

You can be angry at Obama's success at running for and winning the White House all you want, but to wish people were dead rather than to have voted for him makes you come across more like Captain Ahab angry at the Great White Whale that took his leg so much he is blinded by a vendetta rather than a peaceful, loving man of God.

That is just how it is. You can diatribe against the many who voted for him all you want, but it is not a constructive approach, and it makes you come across as being incredibly vindictive and petty.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-16   11:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#5)

He thinks the US should orient their laws in line with God's laws.

That's the taliban, dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnu1Ibwb5c

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-02-16   11:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Biff Tannen (#10)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-16   11:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#8)

Her mother should have used a diaphragm instead of having her.

The diaphragm is a pretty unreliable form of birth control, but none the less disallowed by the Church.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   11:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Biff Tannen (#10)

He thinks the US should orient their laws in line with God's laws.

That's the taliban, dude.

Sharia law IS Old Testament law.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   11:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#7)

You are a dumbfuck if you think Catholics should have to pay for rubbers. Do they have to pay for them for faggots too? Hmm tard?

Since they have no problem hiring them as priests, I'd say they do.

Skip Intro  posted on  2012-02-16   11:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Biff Tannen (#10)

He thinks the US should orient their laws in line with God's laws.

That's the taliban, dude.

The Taliban are satanist muslims. That isn't Gods law.

What is wrong with stealing being wrong. That is Gods law.

Murder is also against Gods law.

What laws of God shouldn't we follow?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

Our system is set up for people to vote for whom they want to be president.

We elect a President to follow the constitution. Not some stupid monkey to try and Gorilla force us to do stuff we don't want to.

But then again you were never a constitutionalist. You are a witches bitch first second and last.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#14)

Since they have no problem hiring them as priests, I'd say they do.

That is a good line. But is it what you really believe?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#13)

Sharia law IS Old Testament law.

The Koran isn't the Old Testament.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#12) (Edited)

The diaphragm is a pretty unreliable form of birth control,

It would have been better for us all if Obama was born retarded.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Say what?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-16   12:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#15)

I don't have much of a problem with having to follow God's laws.

I have a huge fucking problem with someone else telling me what God's laws are and forcing me to follow them.

Again, that's the taliban. And that's what this idiot thinks is right, the government being in charge of setting and enforcing God's laws for the citizens.

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-02-16   12:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)

It would have been better for us all if Obama was born restarted.

Born restarted - what does that mean?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   12:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Biff Tannen (#21)

I have a huge fucking problem with someone else telling me what God's laws are and forcing me to follow them.

God said murder and stealing is wrong. Do you have a problem with the government telling you that.

What we have right now is a left wing kook satanist. Would you rather follow satans law? You can't possibly get a worse president then this pervert in the white house.

Santorum isn't my first second or third or fourth for fifth or hundredth choice. I don't even really like him. But I would pick him over Obama 365 out of 365 days of the year over the dark skinned murderer. I would agree with you if you had someone saying God said no TV. No more TV.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Biff Tannen (#21)

And that's what this idiot thinks is right, the government being in charge of setting and enforcing God's laws for the citizens.

I don't think he is for enforcing Gods laws. I think he bases his philosophy on what he learned from the Bible. He probably doesn't always get it right.

But just because abortion is against Gods Law doesn't mean we are obliged to do the opposite. It isn't like God is a bad guy or anything.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#22)

Born restarted - what does that mean?

It means I didn't look close enough at the spell checker.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

What did you mean to write?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-16   12:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

I already corrected it Fred.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-16   12:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#15)

You just don't like freedom of religion period.

To you, someone is insanely evil for merely not being the sort of religion you are.

There are over a billion Muslims on the planet, they come in a broad range of cultures and degree of belief in their religion, and that faith has good and bad in it just like Christianity does.

All that pissing in the wind rhetorically about them does for you is make you smell a wee bit like a wet, fill diaper every time you diatribe away at everything Islamic.

Islam is not going away anymore than Christianity is, you should get antiquated with that wee bit of reality. The First Amendment giving Americans freedom of religion is something that should be respected and supported.

Too bad you don't agree with that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-16   12:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#23)

I would agree with you if you had someone saying God said no TV. No more TV.

He'd start out saying we're only saying don't murder and steal and he'd end up putting in laws for whatever he thought was right for our sake, in God's name.

That's what they all do after a while, which is why you can't let them get started.

They get power and control mad.

They wouldn't ban TV though, they'd only restrict the shows that could get aired.

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-02-16   12:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#24)

I don't think he is for enforcing Gods laws. I think he bases his philosophy on what he learned from the Bible. He probably doesn't always get it right.

I think he's saying whatever it takes to get elected to power. Just like the rest of those fuckheads.

If he understood the Bible he wouldn't be in favor of using government power to force it onto people's lives.

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-02-16   12:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#19)

It would have been better for us all if Obama was born retarded.

Oh.

It would be better for the health of LF if you gave up being stupidly provocative. In the first place it is manipulative, which is the antithesis of freedom, and maybe more importantly, it falls flat everytime.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-16   12:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#18)

The Koran isn't the Old Testament.

How would you know since you don't seem to have actually read what is in either Testaments of the the Bible? And I can bet a Black and White thinker like you has never read the Koran.

Maybe you should read the Talmud too.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-16   13:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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