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Title: Virginia Moves forward To Let Agencies Bar Gay Adoption
Source: AssociatedPress
URL Source: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/201 ... b/09/us-virginia-gay-adoption/
Published: Feb 9, 2012
Author: staff writers
Post Date: 2012-02-09 18:23:09 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 34265
Comments: 87

Virginia Moves forward To Let Agencies Bar Gay Adoption

The Virginia state Senate passed legislation Thursday allowing private adoption agencies to deny placements that conflict with their religious or moral beliefs, including opposition to homosexuality.

The mostly party-line 22-18 vote virtually ensures the Republican-backed bill will become law. The House of Delegates has an identical version of the bill and Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell says he will sign it. Virginia would become just the second state with such a law, which supporters said was modeled after North Dakota's.

State Sen. Jeffrey McWaters, a Republican from Virginia Beach, said his "conscience clause" bill protects the religious rights of private child placement agencies, including dozens that contract with the state to provide foster care and adoption services.

"This is completely consistent with state and federal law," McWaters said. "It does not change who can or cannot adopt a child."

Sen. Adam Ebbin, D-Alexandria and the only openly gay member of the General Assembly, suggested all the talk about religious freedom is a smokescreen for discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.

"It has always been about denying LGBT Virginians the right to form families, no matter what we say," Ebbin said.

He said the bill will endanger gay and bisexual children, who make up a disproportionate share of youths awaiting a home, by allowing agencies to place them with parents opposed to homosexuality.

"This does not uphold anyone's moral principles," Ebbin said. "It's morally wrong."

Sen. John Edwards, D-Roanoke, said agencies that contract with the state should not be allowed to discriminate.

"You have a right to exercise religion as you see fit, but you don't have a right to impose it on someone else using state dollars," he said.

Sen. Mark Herring, D-Loudoun, said the bill conflicts with the principle that the best interest of the child is paramount.

"Neither the interests of the placement agency nor their beliefs should stand in the way," he said.

The Family Foundation of Virginia, which lobbied for the legislation, lauded the Senate's action.

"The passage of conscience protection for private child placement agencies by a bipartisan majority in the Senate is a tremendous victory for religious liberty and for the thousands of children and families around Virginia that are served by these agencies," Victoria Cobb, the foundation's president, said in a written statement.

The Child Welfare League of America had sent a letter to senators earlier in the week urging them to reject the bill, saying it would just make it more difficult to place the approximately 1,300 Virginia children waiting for a home.

"These children have been through so much already," Christine James-Brown, president of the organization, wrote. "It is cruel to deny them a secure home with a qualified family that happens to differ from the religious or moral beliefs held by a particular agency."

If either the House or the Senate approves the other chamber's bill unchanged, it will go to the governor. If either chamber amends the bill _ which seems unlikely after the Senate rejected a string of amendments proposed by Democrats on Wednesday _ it could be sent to conference committee to resolve the differences.

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#6. To: Murron (#0)

It is wrong to deliberately place a child in a home lacking either male or female influences.

Also, male children should never be placed with lesbians - who uniformly take out their man-hate on them - or with gay males, who very often will raise them for the purpose of molestation.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-09   18:51:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: thoughtomator (#6)

Also, male children should never be placed with lesbians - who uniformly take out their man-hate on them - or with gay males, who very often will raise them for the purpose of molestation.

Where the fuck do you come up with your drivel? Do you just make it up?

meguro  posted on  2012-02-10   2:20:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: meguro (#9)

It's called common sense and those who do not have homosexual mental problems and are not brainwashed by Marxism can see it as self-evident.

Giving children to homosexuals is offensive to Nature itself - which, it should be noted, gives no children to homosexuals.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-10   2:42:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: thoughtomator (#10)

All people have children, and all people come in all range of grace, goodness or ability.

I know many gay men and women with children who do very well in life.

And their parent's gender preference doesn't influence their own.

As homosexuality is just another human trait, and is certainly no mere choice.

Your bigotry is pitiable, and an affliction that hurts you the most.

That is the bottom line.

Marriage has just become legal for all in Washington state, and will soon be legal all up and down the west coast.

As much of the marriages of heterosexual people fail with nary a word of concern or even advocacy to change that from people like you; it's not worry about the future of children or the state of marriage that drives you; it is the promotion of hate and wedge issues that enervates you.

You are to be pitied. I feel sorry for people like you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   6:09:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

That was one hell of a recitation of Marxist politically correct bullshit.

I'll tell you what, if I want to hear that kind of totally unsubstantiated bullshit, I'll turn on my TV, OK?

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-12   9:35:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: thoughtomator (#15)

You can use the word Marxist as a one word cover all for anything you do not agree with.

But the research of the APA and many other entities that have done good, impartial research backs up my position well enough to make it impossible for bigotry to triumph in the end on this issue.

Your hatred and deep fear based on the worst sort of human ignorance is your problem, and it is something you need to work out before you can defeat this stumbling block of hatred and ignorance that prevents you from growing as a human being.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   12:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

But the research of the APA and many other entities that have done good, impartial research backs up my position well enough to make it impossible for bigotry

Why do you call us bigots? That is a ridiculous charge. You are talking in pedophile code in order to try and lure kids into perversion and a destructive lifestyle. When you say that it is ok and normal you are assaulting kids. What do you call someone who assaults kids? That is what you would be. So cut the pedophile code talking out. It is sick.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:22:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Why do you call us bigots?

You're not a bigot. Just a stupid dipshit who doesn't know any better.

I also suspect you're a closet gay.

meguro  posted on  2012-02-12   21:34:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: meguro (#65)

That is what you perverts say when you whenever anyone challenges your perverting society.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   21:51:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#66)

That is what you perverts say when you whenever anyone challenges your perverting society.

It's true, isn't it?

meguro  posted on  2012-02-12   23:14:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stonemeguro (#67) (Edited)

New Study Links Homophobia with Homosexual Arousal

August 1996 Press Release

WASHINGTON -- Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the August 1996 issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.

Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 nonhomophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.

Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male tumescence.

Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the video depicting male homosexual sex: 'The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the control [nonhomophobic] men did not.'

Broken down further, the measurements showed that while 66% of the nonhomophobic group showed no significant tumescence while watching the male homosexual video, only 20% of the homophobic men showed little or no evidence of arousal. Similarly, while 24% of the nonhomophobic men showed definite tumescence while watching the homosexual video, 54% of the homophobic men did.

When asked to give their own subjective assessment of the degree to which they were aroused by watching each of the three videos, men in both groups gave answers that tracked fairly closely with the results of the objective physiological measurement, with one exception: the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of arousal by the male homosexual video.

Do these findings mean, then, that homophobia in men is a reaction to repressed homosexual urges, as psychoanalysis theorizes? While their findings are consistent with that theory, the authors note that there is another, competing theoretical explanation: anxiety. According to this theory, viewing the male homosexual videotape may have caused negative emotions (such as anxiety) in the homophobic men, but not in the nonhomophobic men. As the authors note, 'anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection,' and so it is also possible that 'a response to homosexual stimuli [in these men] is a function of the threat condition rather than sexual arousal per se. These competing notions can and should be evaluated by future research.'

Article: 'Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Arousal?' by Henry E. Adams, Ph.D., Lester W. Wright, Jr., Ph.D. and Bethany A. Lohr, University of Georgia, in Journal of Abnormal Psychology, Vol. 105, No. 3, pp 440-445.

http://www.philosophy-religion.org/handouts/homophobia.htm

Here is a brief explination of that study. Read it and learn, Stone.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-13   1:08:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#76. To: Ferret Mike (#69)

Here is a brief explination of that study. Read it and learn, Stone.

No need to read it. You are an evil witch that wants to make it easy for faggots to molest kids. You are a sicko. Post your picture. You look like one too. It is in your eyes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-13 06:41:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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