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Title: Virginia Moves forward To Let Agencies Bar Gay Adoption
Source: AssociatedPress
URL Source: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/201 ... b/09/us-virginia-gay-adoption/
Published: Feb 9, 2012
Author: staff writers
Post Date: 2012-02-09 18:23:09 by Murron
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Comments: 87

Virginia Moves forward To Let Agencies Bar Gay Adoption

The Virginia state Senate passed legislation Thursday allowing private adoption agencies to deny placements that conflict with their religious or moral beliefs, including opposition to homosexuality.

The mostly party-line 22-18 vote virtually ensures the Republican-backed bill will become law. The House of Delegates has an identical version of the bill and Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell says he will sign it. Virginia would become just the second state with such a law, which supporters said was modeled after North Dakota's.

State Sen. Jeffrey McWaters, a Republican from Virginia Beach, said his "conscience clause" bill protects the religious rights of private child placement agencies, including dozens that contract with the state to provide foster care and adoption services.

"This is completely consistent with state and federal law," McWaters said. "It does not change who can or cannot adopt a child."

Sen. Adam Ebbin, D-Alexandria and the only openly gay member of the General Assembly, suggested all the talk about religious freedom is a smokescreen for discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.

"It has always been about denying LGBT Virginians the right to form families, no matter what we say," Ebbin said.

He said the bill will endanger gay and bisexual children, who make up a disproportionate share of youths awaiting a home, by allowing agencies to place them with parents opposed to homosexuality.

"This does not uphold anyone's moral principles," Ebbin said. "It's morally wrong."

Sen. John Edwards, D-Roanoke, said agencies that contract with the state should not be allowed to discriminate.

"You have a right to exercise religion as you see fit, but you don't have a right to impose it on someone else using state dollars," he said.

Sen. Mark Herring, D-Loudoun, said the bill conflicts with the principle that the best interest of the child is paramount.

"Neither the interests of the placement agency nor their beliefs should stand in the way," he said.

The Family Foundation of Virginia, which lobbied for the legislation, lauded the Senate's action.

"The passage of conscience protection for private child placement agencies by a bipartisan majority in the Senate is a tremendous victory for religious liberty and for the thousands of children and families around Virginia that are served by these agencies," Victoria Cobb, the foundation's president, said in a written statement.

The Child Welfare League of America had sent a letter to senators earlier in the week urging them to reject the bill, saying it would just make it more difficult to place the approximately 1,300 Virginia children waiting for a home.

"These children have been through so much already," Christine James-Brown, president of the organization, wrote. "It is cruel to deny them a secure home with a qualified family that happens to differ from the religious or moral beliefs held by a particular agency."

If either the House or the Senate approves the other chamber's bill unchanged, it will go to the governor. If either chamber amends the bill _ which seems unlikely after the Senate rejected a string of amendments proposed by Democrats on Wednesday _ it could be sent to conference committee to resolve the differences.

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#1. To: Murron (#0)

Duh! That is just common sense.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-09   18:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Duh! That is just common sense.

Somebody pee in your cheerios today?

Murron  posted on  2012-02-09   18:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Murron (#2)

I'm not criticizing you. I'm criticizing why we even need laws like this. It should be obvious. I support the law.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-09   18:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I'm not criticizing you. I'm criticizing why we even need laws like this. It should be obvious. I support the law.

I pretty much knew that, but after reading some of your other posts, I was talking about your mood in general.

Murron  posted on  2012-02-09   18:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Murron (#0)

There will be a decline in the number of abortions since the woman is assured of adopted children going to a normal home.

Less dead babies, more happy childhoods. Yeah!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-09   18:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Murron (#0)

It is wrong to deliberately place a child in a home lacking either male or female influences.

Also, male children should never be placed with lesbians - who uniformly take out their man-hate on them - or with gay males, who very often will raise them for the purpose of molestation.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-09   18:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: thoughtomator (#6)

It is wrong to deliberately place a child in a home lacking either male or female influences.

Also, male children should never be placed with lesbians - who uniformly take out their man-hate on them - or with gay males, who very often will raise them for the purpose of molestation.

To deliberately, to knowingly, place a child in a situation where there is a strong possibility of that child being molested (or worse), is a CRIME!

Murron  posted on  2012-02-09   19:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Murron (#7)

not when it's done by government agent

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-09   20:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: thoughtomator (#6)

Also, male children should never be placed with lesbians - who uniformly take out their man-hate on them - or with gay males, who very often will raise them for the purpose of molestation.

Where the fuck do you come up with your drivel? Do you just make it up?

meguro  posted on  2012-02-10   2:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: meguro (#9)

It's called common sense and those who do not have homosexual mental problems and are not brainwashed by Marxism can see it as self-evident.

Giving children to homosexuals is offensive to Nature itself - which, it should be noted, gives no children to homosexuals.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-10   2:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: thoughtomator (#10) (Edited)

It's called common sense

It's called homophobic drivel.

meguro  posted on  2012-02-12   5:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: thoughtomator (#10)

All people have children, and all people come in all range of grace, goodness or ability.

I know many gay men and women with children who do very well in life.

And their parent's gender preference doesn't influence their own.

As homosexuality is just another human trait, and is certainly no mere choice.

Your bigotry is pitiable, and an affliction that hurts you the most.

That is the bottom line.

Marriage has just become legal for all in Washington state, and will soon be legal all up and down the west coast.

As much of the marriages of heterosexual people fail with nary a word of concern or even advocacy to change that from people like you; it's not worry about the future of children or the state of marriage that drives you; it is the promotion of hate and wedge issues that enervates you.

You are to be pitied. I feel sorry for people like you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   6:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: meguro (#11)

It's called homophobic drivel.

There is no such thing as a homophobe. It is just a word some insecure faggots made up to try and make themselves feel better.

You are two things though.

You are a normaphobe and a pussyphobe.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   8:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

As homosexuality is just another human trait, and is certainly no mere choice.

You need to quit lying and using pedophile talking points. I'm serious cut it out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   8:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

That was one hell of a recitation of Marxist politically correct bullshit.

I'll tell you what, if I want to hear that kind of totally unsubstantiated bullshit, I'll turn on my TV, OK?

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-12   9:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Get rid of my position to merely satisfy the perversion of your irrational hatred?

Not a chance.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   12:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: thoughtomator (#15)

You can use the word Marxist as a one word cover all for anything you do not agree with.

But the research of the APA and many other entities that have done good, impartial research backs up my position well enough to make it impossible for bigotry to triumph in the end on this issue.

Your hatred and deep fear based on the worst sort of human ignorance is your problem, and it is something you need to work out before you can defeat this stumbling block of hatred and ignorance that prevents you from growing as a human being.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   12:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#13)

"There is no such thing as a homophobe."

Racism is built on irrational fear and ignorance whose worst manifestation is the desire to force others to surrender to the irrational fear and hatred blighting the soul and spirit of those suffering from it.

The same is true concerning the wedge issue of hatred and persecution of gay people. To be homophobic is nothing to be proud of, and speaks only of the worst part of anyone advocating such an irrational lynch mob attitude towrd others.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   12:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#17)

can defeat this stumbling block of hatred and ignorance

Best wishes for a speedy recovery from your tree-hugging, human-hating, normalphobia.

You can lead a libtard to knowledge, but you can't make them think.


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Hondo68  posted on  2012-02-12   12:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68 (#19)

Best wishes for a speedy recovery from your tree-hugging, human-hating, normalphobia.

You can lead a libtard to knowledge, but you can't make them think.

You would have called Jesus normalphobic too.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-12   12:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

But the research of the APA and many other entities that have done good, impartial research backs up my position well enough to make it impossible for bigotry

Why do you call us bigots? That is a ridiculous charge. You are talking in pedophile code in order to try and lure kids into perversion and a destructive lifestyle. When you say that it is ok and normal you are assaulting kids. What do you call someone who assaults kids? That is what you would be. So cut the pedophile code talking out. It is sick.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

Racism

Pay attention to the conversation. We aren't talking about racism.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)

"Pay attention to the conversation. We aren't talking about racism."

Pay attention to the fact I used it as an example to compare a similar irrational hatred and wedge issue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Pay attention to the fact I used it as an example to compare a similar irrational hatred and wedge issue.

There are no similarities. One is a skin color that you are born of. One is an action one decides to take.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#21)

"Why do you call us bigots?"

because, you express bigotry. Are you denying you are bigoted against homosexuals? If you are, explain why you need to slander people as child molesters to try to dehumanize them, when pedophiles are commonly known as a different class of people who fear sexual contact with their peers?

Studies show gay people as fully normal and functional in every way. Their only difference is their sexual partners.

Consenting adults engaged in a relationship is not pedophilia. This is no more a rational argument than the old racist saw that blacks need to be controlled because they are childish by nature and merely out to get our White women.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#24) (Edited)

One os born with a predilection that imprints them with a desire for a same gender partner. It is proven by well vetted research that it is hardly a choice, it is an expression of inherent nature of many people.

This is why so called 'cures' of people who have no control over what fires their rocket than you do fail miserably. 'Cured' people generally return to their inherent preference of a sexual partner; regardless of any desire to get them to do otherwise.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

Studies show gay people as fully normal and functional in every way. Their only difference is their sexual partners

Most murderers are normal in every way. Except they kill people. What you say there is evidence of nothing. You sound like the defense attorney for pedophiles making exescuses. Any if you are born with your "sexual orientation" (It is really preference but I'll use your dumb word to make a point) then by following your "logic" to its conclusion, pedophiles are born that way too.

And you trying to bring race into it a red herring and ignored by all except the dumbest of the dumb and the evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

because, you express bigotry. Are you denying you are bigoted against homosexuals?

What you are doing is trying to recruit kids into being queer. You are telling them that it is alright when it isn't. You are a sicko.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

One os born with a predilection that imprints them with a desire for a same gender partner. It is proven by well vetted research

Mike you are stupid. You just read that in a book and it fit your mentally deranged view of the world. So you adopted it as your talking point. It isn't true. The net effect of your words are to try and recruit kids into a perversion by saying that it is ok and natural. You are a sicko.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Murderers don't function well in society. And their victims are not consenting adults.

Gay people are indistinguishable from everyone else in how well they succeed in society, and in how productive a member of society they are.

The only difference is in the gender preference of their consenting adult partner.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

This is why so called 'cures' of people who have no control over what fires their rocket than you do fail miserably.

Again follow your illogic to its conclusion. You are saying pedophiles can't be cured and they fail miserably. Therefore according to your logic pedophiles must be normal. Again you are trying to turn kids into freak perverts. So again I must say you are a sicko.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

Gay people are indistinguishable from everyone else in how well they succeed in society,

That is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with this issue. There are many wife beaters that are indistinguishable from everyone else in how well they succeed in society. So by your words you are hung. Applying the definition you just used you just said that wife beaters are normal and should be respected. Your brain is fried Mike. You need help real bad.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#29)

I didn't 'just read a book.' Society is changing, and being homosexual is no longer considered an affliction based on very extensive and well conducted research.

I am aware of this research as are those who are successfully working for change.

Keep your head in the sand like and ostrich and feed your irrational hatred all you want, but in the end it will get you nowhere.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

Murderers don't function well in society.

What is that supposed to mean. Murderers like queers have jobs. Murderers like queers go to church. Murderers like queers go to football and basketball games. Murderers and queers both go to the movies and eat at restaurants.

i have just demonstrated that murderers and queers can both function in society. But that doesn't mean what they do is right. It isn't right to kill someone. It isn't a natural right way to use your body and interact with another human being.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Wife beaters like murderers do not deal with consenting adult partners.

In the end you can construct no rational argument, thus you resort to name calling and epithets.

This is your problem, not mine. I don't give a damn what you want to label me with name calling.

Bullying does not work. To bad you can't seem to figure that one out.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Killing someone is not functioning well in society. Murder victims are not consenting adults.

You have proven nothing.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-12   13:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

I didn't 'just read a book.' Society is changing,

Society is changing is a weak argument too.

What is right and wrong are always the same. It doesn't matter if society is changing. When nazi Germany changed it was still wrong to murder Jews. Because America changed and legalized abortion doesn't mean it is now right to have an abortion. So just because people like you have infiltrated the minds of innocent children and sold them the hell damning lie that it is normal and good to engage in such conduct, it is still wrong.

Your arguments are that of a weak child that are easily defeated.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   13:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

Killing someone is not functioning well in society. Murder victims are not consenting adults.

How is engaging in homo sex functioning well in society? If they do it in their bedroom no one would even know and it would have no bearing whatsoever on society. So you are full of shit as usual. If they do it in public it is a crime and they should be dealt with accordingly. Like I said your arguments are those of a man who builds his house on a frozen pond. When the heat comes you sink and drown.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   14:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

I am not the one with a problem. You are the one with the problem, as you are pretending a very destructive behavior is OK and should be accepted. The medical data supports my position, not yours.

thoughtomator  posted on  2012-02-12   14:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

Wife beaters like murderers do not deal with consenting adult partners.

That is another weak argument. The argument that would come from someone lying or mentally deficient. You are saying that any conduct that is engaged in by consenting people is moral and right. That isn't the case Mike. It just isn't. You can pretend it is the case but that has no bearing on reality.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-12   14:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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