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Opinions/Editorials Title: How the Komen Decision Had Race and Class Written All Over It snip The political game over abortion, however, is really not much more than a subtext of the bigger clashes over race and class. What was missed during this entire week of debate is that the Komen flap had all kinds of race and class written all over it. But, no one really wanted to step into that. Gatekeepers of partisan talking points struggled with every last breath on talk shows to stay away from either conversation, pretty much using abortion as the perfect cover. Untouched was the fact that this was pretty much a decision made by pink-ribbon wearing affluent White women comfortably detached from the reality of what Planned Parenthood is doing and who benefits from those services. Amazingly, we got consumed by a discussion on funding for abortions when, in reality, Planned Parenthood only focuses 3% of its services on abortion. While many pro-life conservatives will argue that even one abortion is too many, the math pretty much makes it all look a bit ridiculous and over the top. See the graph attached to this. I’m not taking any side on the abortion debate. I’m just saying, politically, is not what I would want my elected officials worried about at the moment. A deeper look at the numbers also shows that over three quarters of women using Planned Parenthood are at or below 150 percent of the federal poverty level. Over a quarter of Planned Parenthood patients are Latinas and 15 percent are Black women; 40% of Latinas and nearly 20% of African American women are uninsured and – oh yeah – nearly 15% of White women are uninsured. Which means that Planned Parenthood health centers are quite possibly the closest thing to primary health care for millions of poor women with inadequate access to affordable, reliable and user-friendly health care. The problem here is that we’re getting twisted into a knot about abortion when the issue is about whether or not our rather large underserved and impoverished population – which is nearly 20% of Americans – is able to access quality care and preemptive screenings for a vast range of major health disparities. Obviously, that’s still not the case when Black women, for example, are still more likely to die from breast and cervical cancer than White women. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mininggold, mcgowanjm (#0) So, we had yet another week in which abortion dominated a discussion about desperately needed scarce funding and resources for low-income women and people of color. That’s what this is really all about. Talking up abortion is – real talk – a convenient way to avoid that very uncomfortable conversation and a collective unwillingness to address some very serious health disparities in the United States. "Obsess about embryos, but ignore the needs of real children", and women Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, #2. To: lucysmom (#0) Everyone that works for planned parenthood is an accessory to murder. The place should be nuked.
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2) Everyone that works for planned parenthood is an accessory to murder. The place should be nuked. Planned parenthood helped my friend conceive and have a baby, by detecting a problem and referring her to the right doctor. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #4. To: mininggold (#3) Planned parenthood helped my friend conceive and have a baby, by detecting a problem and referring her to the right doctor. Then they took those profits and murdered your neighbors baby. Screw them assholes.
#5. To: A K A Stone (#4) Then they took those profits and murdered your neighbors baby. Screw them assholes. Actually the only neighborhood girls I knew who had abortions had them in the early sixties. Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET #6. To: A K A Stone (#2) You do realize that you and your position are now burning in this Dumpster fire. But keep talking. You and Brinker and Fleischer and the rabid right have just 'nuked' your own position....8D "What can make the politics of Komen for the Cure's Planned Parenthood decision look worse? Have a scandal-plagued, right-wing senator take credit for the decision. Associated Press Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) ... lauded Komen's action, saying: "This is a welcome, long-overdue decision that will make Komen more effective in the fight against breast cancer, which is why I wrote a letter to Komen's founder and CEO last May urging her to take this step." [...] 8D
#7. To: lucysmom (#1) And the LAST thing these yoyo's wanted to do was bring up poor women's health needs....8D "Vitter is perhaps best known for running as a "family values" conservative who was later caught hiring prostitutes." "It's almost like a disease is being used to make a profit." www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPZfcYTUaA Only 10% of breast cancer is genetic...;} The LASt thing these morons wanted was to focus on the 'profit center of Komen....;}
#8. To: lucysmom (#1) And ALL across America this is happening: " Gauvin, a supporter in the past of both Planned Parenthood and Komen, said that now, if a friend asked for sponsorship in a Race for the Cure event, she would offer to give money instead to the American Cancer Society. Also switching allegiance was Suzanne Strempek Shea, a novelist and college writing teacher in Northampton, Mass. "If someone asks me to sponsor them," she said, "I'm going to say, `I wish you well, but I'm going to give the amount I'd have given you to Rays of Hope," another breast cancer support group. The issue was particularly painful to Shea, 51. She is a breast cancer survivor who discovered early warning signs at a Planned Parenthood breast screening (the group does screenings and refers some patients for mammograms)." You won't hear about abortion or breast (cancer;} for awhile now. Watch. And heads are rolling this Sunday. Count on it. There were 100's of millions at stake.
#9. To: All (#8) ouch. # # Mercury News editorial: Komen's attack on Planned Parenthood is ... www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_19879960Cached
2 days ago – Cutting off grants for breast cancer screening for poor women could be the most cowardly act by a health foundation in U.S. history. #
#10. To: mcgowanjm (#6) I get you. You like fish more then human babies.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10) (Edited) I get you. You like fish more then human babies. And that's your main problem, A K. Empathy and lack thereof. Empathy is not a weakness as this socioEconomicPolitical era teaches. Without it, you, and other people, institutions like Komen, are flying blind. "Mercury News Editorial Posted: 02/02/2012 03:27:09 PM PST Updated: 02/02/2012 07:55:41 PM PST The Susan G. Komen Foundation revealed its true colors Tuesday, and there wasn't a hint of its trademark pink in sight. Komen put red-state, right-wing politics above low-income women's health, pure and simple, with its decision to stop giving money to Planned Parenthood to pay for breast cancer screenings. OUCH (My Edit;) It could be the most cowardly act by a health foundation in U.S. history. That's the message the Right Wing sent. Believe me when I tell you it's been received...8D
#12. To: All (#11) O and btw? Without fish there will be alot fewer human babies. See Jack Mackerel SA fisheries collapse for latest.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#2) Everyone that works for planned parenthood is an accessory to murder. In the same way you are engaged in the torture and death of children. Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, #14. To: lucysmom (#13) In the same way you are engaged in the torture and death of children. No looney. I'm against child torture. Your abortionist friends are so cruel they wont even give the unborn child pain medication. That is torture and murder. Do you think that when an abortion is performed. They should at least give the unborn some pain medication so they don't feel the pain?
#15. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#11) And that's your main problem, A K. Empathy and compassion are the foundation of morality. Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, #16. To: lucysmom (#15) Empathy and compassion are the foundation of morality. Is that why the liberals champion baby killing as a virtue. Because they lack empathy and compassion? I'll answer it for you. YES!
#17. To: A K A Stone (#16) Is that why the liberals... It certainly isn't conservatives turning their backs on the poor and friendless. Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, #18. To: mcgowanjm (#11) It could be the most cowardly act by a health foundation in U.S. history. I missed that story behind the story, thanks. And A K wants to nuke clinics now. Go figure.
#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18) (Edited) I missed that story behind the story, thanks. And of course just Caucasian Strait babies need apply for heavenly bennies....called the Happy Quanzza Codicile...;}
#20. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom, All (#16) Empathy and compassion are the foundation of morality. Listen to Lucy'smom, A K....Empathy also allows for mind reading.....;}
#21. To: lucysmom (#17) It certainly isn't conservatives turning their backs on the poor and friendless. Note the Total lack of interest of AK in finding out what has really gone on at Komen....;}
#22. To: All (#21) And the USSAMSM that AK represents. All the cameras were rolling. All the talking heads were in place with their Red Outfits. And then: Hitler reacts to news of the defeat at Stalingrad.....8D It really was that bad.
#23. To: lucysmom (#13) Everyone that works for planned parenthood is an accessory to murder. Newt Gingrich: Do As I Say, Not As I Do....;}
#24. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz, All (#23) And like I said. Heaven is only for Caucasian Strait and now Christian Jewish babies. The list of necessaries gets longer and longer....;} Title: WHY ALLAH AND MUSLIMS HATE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QswxfUEuNM0 Published: Feb 6, 2012 Author: Some kook Muslim Post Date: 2012-02-06 07:08:07 by A K A Stone Just between you and me, there's a Hell of alot more baptists in Arkansas than there is in heaven....;}
#25. To: mcgowanjm (#20) Empathy also allows for mind reading.....;} LOL Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, #26. To: lucysmom (#25) Empathy also allows for mind reading.....;} 8D
#27. To: mcgowanjm (#21) (Edited) Note the Total lack of interest of AK in finding out what has really gone on at Komen....;} It's easier to imagine the pain felt by embryos than air-breathing human beings. Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, #28. To: mcgowanjm (#24) Title: WHY ALLAH AND MUSLIMS HATE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS Source: [None] URL Source: Conservatives justify their own hate by imagining those they hate hated them first. That, however, is just about 180 degrees from the message of the Christ they claim to love. Post-Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University, Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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