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Title: Agribusiness Fights to Allow Children to Work in Manure Pits
Source: Republic Report
URL Source: http://www.republicreport.org/2012/agribusiness-manure-pits/
Published: Feb 3, 2012
Author: Matt Stoller
Post Date: 2012-02-05 09:10:08 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 7013
Comments: 28

Most child labor was prohibited in 1938, but there are a few exceptions for certain industries where children are still allowed to work.

One of the biggest loopholes is the agricultural industry. The Department of Labor recently issued new proposed regulations restricting child labor on farms, regulations which are drawing intense opposition from politicians and agribusiness groups like the American Farm Bureau Federation. The rules have been held up by administration official Cass Sunstein, at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs which reviews most Federal regulations before they are finalized. These rules are complex, and the opposition to them is varied. Some politicians, such as Jon Tester, Debbie Stabenow, and Tom Harkin, want to ensure that children can work on farms in which their family’s own a stake. The Department of Labor has recently revised the rules to allow that.

But other politicians just seem to want children to be put to work.

For instance, Republican Congressional candidate Tom Cotton has argued against child labor restrictions in the agricultural sector, saying “We need more young people who’ve worked all day in the fields, not less.” And Republican Congressman Danny Rehberg believes that modern farm equipment cannot hurt children.

“It’s impossible. You could have a five-year-old out there running it.” Rehberg added that he’s previously employed a 10-year-old neighbor to herd cashmere goats with what he described as a Kawasaki youth motorcycle. “Now would that be exempt under this rule?” Rehberg demanded of Nancy J. Leppink, a deputy administrator in the Labor Department..

Note that Rehberg is talking about employing a neighbor’s child, which means that he is opposing rules that go beyond letting children work on farms in which their family owns...

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mininggold, mcgowanjm (#0)

“We need more young people who’ve worked all day in the fields, not less.”

and if they work for free, well...

Post-­Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University,

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-05   9:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#0)

For instance, Republican Congressional candidate Tom Cotton has argued against child labor restrictions in the agricultural sector, saying “We need more young people who’ve worked all day in the fields, not less.” And Republican Congressman Danny Rehberg believes that modern farm equipment cannot hurt children.

I agree.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-05   9:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

“We need more young people who’ve worked all day in the fields, not less.”

Then you will be sending your kids out to work in the fields.

Post-­Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University,

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-05   9:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#3)

Then you will be sending your kids out to work in the fields.

Nope. No farms close enough here. But if they wanted to work on one I would be ok with that.

My late Uncle owned a farm. I see no problem with him having his kids work on the farm. They all did that. They all turned out good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-05   9:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

No farms close enough here.

excuses, excuses...

Post-­Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University,

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-05   9:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#0)

And Republican Congressman Danny Rehberg believes that modern farm equipment cannot hurt children.

Wow... I wonder if the Workman's Comp insurance people are aware of that.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   11:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I agree.

I'm looking to hire one that knows how to drive a combine....cheap.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   11:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#0)

I was working on a farm in the summers at the age of 11. I was too small to load the bales on the wagon, so I drove the tractor. At 12 I was throwing the bales onto the wagon. At 13 I started staying in the city, forming and pouring concrete.

I did it all because I wanted to. There's nothing wrong with starting to work early in life.

I also started hunting by myself at age 12. Can you imagine that today? A 12 year old going out by himself with a loaded gun?

We The People  posted on  2012-02-05   11:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold (#6)

Wow... I wonder if the Workman's Comp insurance people are aware of that.

Maybe children are exempt along with seasonal/part time farm workers.

Post-­Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University,

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-05   11:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#4) (Edited)

Nope. No farms close enough here. But if they wanted to work on one I would be ok with that.

My parents used to drive us kids thirty miles to Byron to pick peaches, until I fell off a ladder.

The crowning glory was the now famous winery owner who hired one of the kids and put him in the empty vats to clean out the old wine while laughing at him when he complained he was ready to pass out from the fumes. Oh, and he wouldn't supply an air line and would even lock the kid in the vat.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   12:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#10)

until I fell off a ladder.

That could explain a lot about you.

Did you hit your head?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-05   12:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: We The People (#8)

I also started hunting by myself at age 12. Can you imagine that today? A 12 year old going out by himself with a loaded gun?

I went hunting many times by that age with a loaded 30-30. And now so do many of my nephews. None of my nieces go though.

I didn't go by myself though because I didn't want to pack it out by myself.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   12:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)

That could explain a lot about you.

Did you hit your head?

Why don't you show the new posters here that you can hold a conversation for more than two posts without an ignorant, personal comment.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   12:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I started pumping gas at my dad's station when I was 13.

I learned how to be on time, deal with customers (nice ones and mean ones), handle money, work as part of the team, and more.

Work is an invaluable experience for kids. All of these federal laws that restrict the ability of kids to work are detrimental to our society.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-02-05   12:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#13)

So did you hit your head?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-05   12:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#14)

Of course you are correct.

I though this was supposed to be the land of the free.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-05   12:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

So did you hit your head?

No, I landed on my side. I went back to picking... much like the time I got drug by a horse. I got right back on.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   12:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mininggold (#17)

No, I landed on my side. I went back to picking... much like the time I got drug by a horse. I got right back on.

Ok tough girl.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-05   12:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#0)

I've got a good idea, let's put the libtards in the shit pits where they belong and give the kids a break!

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-02-05   12:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#16)

I though this was supposed to be the land of the free.

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose..."

Post-­Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University,

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-05   12:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Happy Quanzaa (#19)

I've got a good idea, let's put the libtards in the shit pits where they belong and give the kids a break!

A confined-space hazard that often claims multiple lives before anyone realizes there is a danger is manure gas. Manure pits can be oxygen-deficient, toxic and explosive.

Post-­Conflict Regime Type: Probability of Being a Democracy Five Years After the Conflict Has Ended; Violent Campaigns - 4%, Nonviolent Campaigns - 46%. Erica Chenoweth, Ph.D., Stanford University,

lucysmom  posted on  2012-02-05   12:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#21)

A confined-space hazard that often claims multiple lives before anyone realizes there is a danger is manure gas. Manure pits can be oxygen-deficient, toxic and explosive

Maybe that's the problem with conservatives. They 'think' that letting their kids clean out wine vats, septic sewers and manure pits on their fabled quest to build character (which evidently can't be acheived at home), also increases their IQ's.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-02-05   13:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: We The People (#8)

I was working on a farm in the summers at the age of 11. I was too small to load the bales on the wagon, so I drove the tractor. At 12 I was throwing the bales onto the wagon. At 13 I started staying in the city, forming and pouring concrete.

I did it all because I wanted to. There's nothing wrong with starting to work early in life.

I also started hunting by myself at age 12. Can you imagine that today? A 12 year old going out by himself with a loaded gun?

I was the same way. I worked for the Pioneer Seed Company detassling corn when I was 11 so that I could buy a new electric guitar. I liked the feeling of making my own money so talked my parents in allowing me to have a part time job during school which they agreed to as long as I kept my grades up. So I began working as a full service gas station attendant at a Kerr McGee gas station.

I consider these positive experiences that taught me a lot and I would not take away the ability of others to have them.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-02-05   13:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#13)

"Why don't you show the new posters here that you can hold a conversation for more than two posts without an ignorant, personal comment."

With him it's once an ignorant prick, always an ignorant prick. He's just too impressed with the smell of his own verbal farts not to spread their stench around like they were perfume.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-02-05   14:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: We The People (#8)

I also started hunting by myself at age 12. Can you imagine that today?

What did you hunt? Poor unarmed four-legged creatures? Or the two-legged type?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-05   18:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#14)

I started pumping gas at my dad's station when I was 13.

That's nothing. I was pumping Ethel.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-05   18:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#25)

What did you hunt? Poor unarmed four-legged creatures? Or the two-legged type?

Deer, rabbits and squirrels.

Squirrels are better than rabbits.

We The People  posted on  2012-02-05   18:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fibr Dog (#23) (Edited)

I worked for the Pioneer Seed Company detassling corn when I was 11 so that I could buy a new electric guitar.

Side note...

I just bought a Joe Satriani Ibanez JS700, that was owned by Josh Rand of the band Stone Sour.

I also got a bunch of their guitar picks used in concert, guitar picks used by the band Slipknot, (cause the same guy is lead singer for both bands) a custom made set of drum sticks and TWO CD covers autographed by all the members of Stone Sour.

I got all that for $600.00 from a guy that I work with who lives in the same area as Josh Rand.

Josh Rand is the bald guy on the left in the band shots.

We The People  posted on  2012-02-06   21:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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