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Humor Title: Worldnetdaily Founder Joseph Farah Promotes Rubio Ineligibility Argument By Alicia M. Cohn - 02/01/12 01:08 PM ET Conservative Joseph Farah on Tuesday evening predicted that “10 percent of the Republican vote” would fail to get behind Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) as the hypothetical vice presidential nominee because they will believe the circumstances of his birth make him ineligible. Farah has been one of the most prominent and persistent voices of the so-called “birther” movement, which argues that President Obama is not eligible to be president of the United States due to doubts about his birthplace and the citizenship of his parents. Farah’s objection to Rubio might serve as a rallying cry to voters convinced that Obama’s presidency is illegal according to the rules set out in the Constitution. “Rubio is not eligible,” Farah told Fox News host Sean Hannity. “He’ll lose 10 percent of the Republican vote because he is not a natural-born citizen. We’ve been through this with Obama now for four years.” Rubio was born in Miami in 1971. Farah’s argument against Rubio’s “natural born” status relies on a strict definition also used by Farah and others who raised doubts over Obama’s eligibility. The strict definition requires that both parents be legal citizens at the time of the birth. Rubio’s parents became naturalized citizens in 1975, but were permanent legal residents of the United States when Rubio was born, according to Rubio’s office. Rubio’s official biography has already been scrutinized, due to questions over the date his parents arrived in the United States as Cuban exiles. Farah’s website, World Net Daily, is now reporting on the potential controversy under the category “Certifigate.” The website first raised the question in May, but Farah raising the issue in a national television appearance could be a signal of things to come should Rubio appear on the Republican presidential ticket later this year. “You want to open that can of worms again?” Farah warned. Last April, Obama released his own long-form birth certificate, which proved his birth in Hawaii, in an effort to silence persistent accusations that he wasn’t born in the United States. Rubio, who is popular with both conservatives and Hispanic voters, continues to come up as the most likely possibility for the vice presidential slot, and each of the front-runners for the GOP nomination have consistently raised his name as part of their prospective “short list” for vice presidential candidates. Rubio has said he does not expect to be asked to join the ticket, but also maintains he will do anything he can to support the nominee. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 9. Rubio was born in Miami in 1971. Farah’s argument against Rubio’s “natural born” status relies on a strict definition also used by Farah and others who raised doubts over Obama’s eligibility. The strict definition requires that both parents be legal citizens at the time of the birth. From HERE,
Extending citizenship to non-citizens through birth based solely upon locality is nothing more than mere municipal law that has no extra- territorial effect as proven from the English practice of it. On the other hand, citizenship by descent through the father is natural law and is recognized by all nations (what nation doesn’t recognize citizenship of children born wherever to their own citizens?). Thus, a natural-born citizen is one whose citizenship is recognized by law of nations rather than mere local recognition. If his parents weren't citizens, than while he may be eligible for VP, he can never assume POTUS. Period.
#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1) Remarkable how none of you Berfers are able to cite just ONE relevant US law that supports your *belief*...
#3. To: war (#2) Remarkable how none of you Berfers are able to cite just ONE relevant US law that supports your *belief*... Shhhhh. Like babies they need a pacifier.
#5. To: mininggold (#3) To: edge919 << “He was not being sued.” >> Semantics. This was all started by a lawsuit, yes? << “He was being subpoenaed for evidence and for testimony related directly to his candidacy for office. The only appeal he can file is with the state superior court, which he is NOT going to do.” >> He doesn't have to appeal in state court at all. He can simply ignore the whole mess then - if the state tries to keep him off the ballot - sue the state in Federal court. << “He is better off cutting his losses in this state and trying to marginalize the outcome of the hearing through his typical Alinsky tactics, and hope to high hell this isn’t repeated in all 57 states.” >> I don't see how you can reach that conclusion. No candidate with a brain is going to support that strategy. Concede states in a Presidential election? Silly. Other than a loss in Federal court, there appears to be no downside for him to simply ignore this. The USSC overruled the Florida Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore. You have to keep that precedent foremost in your mind if you want to understand how Obama is reacting tactically to this. If Georgia announces some adverse impact to Obama from all this, then you can expect a hurried Obama appeal to the Supremes. The real interesting aspect here is that this would force the Supremes to review the “Natural Born Citizen” issue for the first time. Wouldn't it be interesting if they decided that Obama didn't qualify for NBC status? What would happen then? Would he be removed as President? Would 2012 be Romney vs. Biden? I'd pay to see that. It would be a fascinating news cycle.
23 posted on Thursday, February 02, 2012 07:59:38 by omnidroid
#7. To: BorisY (#5) If Georgia announces some adverse impact to Obama from all this, then you can expect a hurried Obama appeal to the Supremes. The real interesting aspect here is that this would force the Supremes to review the “Natural Born Citizen” issue for the first time. I believe 2nd class status should apply only for those of you who refuse to renounce your allegiance and citizenship status to a foreign country.
#9. To: mininggold (#7) For citizen there is no 2nd class ! Only for profession - work - office - driving - airplanes !
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