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Title: Ron Paul: How badly does GOP need his voters?
Source: Christian Science Monitor
URL Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi ... badly-does-GOP-need-his-voters
Published: Jan 11, 2012
Author: Peter Grier
Post Date: 2012-01-11 21:20:09 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 26296
Comments: 48

Many in the GOP realize that Ron Paul is not going to fade away once the early primaries are over. If Ron Paul doesn't win the primary battle, they'll need his voters to win in the general election.

Ron Paul did pretty well in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday. He placed second, slightly outperforming pre-election polls, and – perhaps more importantly – he tripled the number of votes he got in the Granite State when he ran for president in 2008. More and more, many in the GOP are realizing that this time around Ron Paul is a significant phenomenon that’s not going to fade away once the early primaries are over.

They’re also realizing that it’s counterproductive to dismiss the Texas libertarian’s followers as cranks, college students in favor of drug legalization, or disaffected liberals. The 2012 general election is likely to be close, and the GOP will need all the voters it can get.

Thus some in the GOP are beginning to make conciliatory noises about the Paulites. Tea party favorite Sen. Jim DeMint (R) of South Carolina on Wednesday said that the Republican presidential candidates need to listen to Ron Paul and might do well to adopt some of his ideas, particularly on economics.

“One of the things that’s hurt the so-called conservative alternative [candidates] is saying negative things about Ron Paul,” said Senator DeMint on conservative Laura Ingraham’s radio show. “I’d like to see a Republican Party that embraces a lot of the libertarian ideas.”

How badly does the GOP need Paul’s voters? Consider this: In New Hampshire, Paul won 47 percent of voters aged 18 to 29.

Making inroads into Barack Obama’s appeal to younger demographics is high on the Republican National Committee’s to-do list. Keeping Paul adherents on the reservation would be one easy way to do that.

Plus, as the National Journal’s Major Garrett notes in a story Tuesday, young voters equal enthusiasm – and the GOP looks like it might actually have a developing enthusiasm problem.

Turnout in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries was fairly strong, but still less than what top Republicans in both states had predicted. If Mitt Romney becomes the nominee, as now appears likely, the party may need as many exciting surrogates as it can get on the campaign trail to try to inject energy into the race.

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#1. To: GOP (#0)

Making inroads into Barack Obama’s appeal to younger demographics is high on the Republican National Committee’s to-do list. Keeping Paul adherents on the reservation would be one easy way to do that.

Yeah, good luck with that.

You're gonna need all the luck you can get.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-11   21:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: We The People (#1)

Think about this. If Obama is reelected he could alter us forever with supreme court picks. I think he would probably start assassinating supreme court judges and installing new ones.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-11   21:27:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Think about this. If Obama is reelected he could alter us forever with supreme court picks. I think he would probably start assassinating supreme court judges and installing new ones.

LOL.

If you've learned nothing in the last three years, you should have learned that the SCOTUS is no longer relevant.

The POTUS has dictatorial powers, literally the power of life and death over everyone.

The supreme court picks are an empty issue.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-11   23:15:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Capitalist Eric (#4)

If you've learned nothing in the last three years, you should have learned that the SCOTUS is no longer relevant.

lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-11   23:18:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Ok, let's get down to brass tacks...

This barbecue is all yours, and it's all good... (well, mostly... I don't have any gripes about your style, just some of the more obtuse leftist posters, here...)

But the SCOTUS hasn't done anything that's worth a squirt of warm piss, for the last three years... with the exceptions of District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and District of Columbia v. Heller (2010).

If there's more, than please enlighten me... because at this point, the Judicial branch is more of a rubber-stamp on the police-state, than anything else...

I pray to God, that someone will take the NDAA 2012 up to the SCOTUS, and they'll overturn that abomination... but I'm not holding my breath.

I suspect that the Founders knew that, eventually, we'd still reach the point of a tyrannical government, even though the checks and balances were supposed to prevent that... While one may simply dismiss such notions as pure cynicism in the founders, they seem to have known we'd eventually get to the point where the government would declare de facto war on the people.

We've already passed that day, as the NDAA was signed oBUMa, with the full support of an obsequious, idiotic Congress...

If it's NOT overturned, the next step is the ammo-box.

Again, if you think I'm off-base on this, then please enlighten me.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-11   23:47:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#6)

I suspect that the Founders knew that, eventually, we'd still reach the point of a tyrannical government, even though the checks and balances were supposed to prevent that...

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-12   12:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler, Capitalist Eric (#16)

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

Yeah we saw how well that worked over a 150 years ago.

Both of you pussies will have long taken refuge in the land of your wives as you watch Jefferson's prediction lead to a foreign take over of this country on the TeeBee.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-12   12:31:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#17)

as you watch Jefferson's prediction lead to a foreign take over of this country on the TeeBee.

...in case you aren't aware...the country HAS been taken over...the middle class is being destroyed, our borders are being FORCED to remain wide open, our industry has been shipped offshore, we're 100 TRILLION dollars in debt, we're at war with the nations that aren't real keen on the coming global government, Americans can be assassinated at the executive's whim and now we have NDAA...yes, the takeover happened, apparently while you were watching teebee. Evidently, in your mind, a "foreign" takeover is somehow worse???

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-12   12:50:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: freedomsnotfree (#20) (Edited)

...in case you aren't aware...the country HAS been taken over...the middle class is being destroyed, our borders are being FORCED to remain wide open, our industry has been shipped offshore, we're 100 TRILLION dollars in debt, we're at war with the nations that aren't real keen on the coming global government, Americans can be assassinated at the executive's whim and now we have NDAA...yes, the takeover happened, apparently while you were watching teebee. Evidently, in your mind, a "foreign" takeover is somehow worse???

And the GOP wants more of the same as evidenced by it's support of candidates and their various alliances that will only insure more of the same. And I do include Ron Paul and his free market fantasies in the mix. Although I do like his foreign policies, I'm sure one can argue that a free market is one that takes advantage of every angle and that includes lobbying for foreign intervention in the pursuit of resources and markets.

You have no idea what you are talking about when you minimize the effects of a foreign take over. Read your history please.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-12   12:56:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#23)

You have no idea what you are talking about when you minimize the effects of a foreign take over. Read your history please.

I have studied history...and if you had, you'd know that in the last century alone, over 100 million people were slaughtered BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!!! Why on earth do you think these laws, such as DNAA, are being passed...for FUN??

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-12   13:00:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: freedomsnotfree, mininggold (#24)

mininggold: You have no idea what you are talking about when you minimize the effects of a foreign take over. Read your history please.

freedomsnotfree: I have studied history...and if you had, you'd know that in the last century alone, over 100 million people were slaughtered BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT!!! Why on earth do you think these laws, such as DNAA, are being passed...for FUN??

BRILLIANT, Freedom. BRILLIANT.

You'll notice that dingaling makes such sweeping statements, such as "read your history," while at the same time giving clear proof that she has NO idea about the lessons of history... [Is she a product of the publik skool system???]

When the NDAA was brought up in the Senate, I was... stunned. I immediately started buying more supplies (and am still doing so). Call it the straw that broke the camel's back, for a LOT of us...

And NOW, the “HR 3166: Enemy Expatriation Act,” being pushed by Congress, has pushed us well beyond that, into the surreal. Look it up, if you don't believe me...

Oh, I'm sure dingaling will push the agenda that we should all be good little sheep, and just 'go along to get along.' She's either too stupid or too weak, to stand for what's right. You see, it's easier to not fight... Of course, that's how you get all the livestock into a slaughter-house.

The FACT that dingbat doesn't get, is that the government has already declared war on the American people!!!

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. --John F. Kennedy--

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-12   13:27:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Capitalist Eric (#31)

BRILLIANT, Freedom. BRILLIANT.

You'll notice that dingaling makes such sweeping statements, such as "read your history," while at the same time giving clear proof that she has NO idea about the lessons of history... [Is she a product of the publik skool system???]

When the NDAA was brought up in the Senate, I was... stunned. I immediately started buying more supplies (and am still doing so). Call it the straw that broke the camel's back, for a LOT of us...

And NOW, the “HR 3166: Enemy Expatriation Act,” being pushed by Congress, has pushed us well beyond that, into the surreal. Look it up, if you don't believe me...

Oh, I'm sure dingaling will push the agenda that we should all be good little sheep, and just 'go along to get along.' She's either too stupid or too weak, to stand for what's right. You see, it's easier to not fight... Of course, that's how you get all the livestock into a slaughter-house.

The FACT that dingbat doesn't get, is that the government has already declared war on the American people!!!

You seem to have the viewpoint of a disinterested foreigner when it comes to US history.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-12   13:39:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#32)

You seem to have the viewpoint of a disinterested foreigner when it comes to US history.

You seem to have your head up your fat ass.

How unusual. ((((eyeball roll*))))

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-12   13:42:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#35) (Edited)

You seem to have your head up your fat ass.

How unusual. ((((eyeball roll*))))

Actually getting you to show off your vacuous knowledge on US history is priceless.

What's with all you sissy elites and your eyeball rolls?

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-12   13:44:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#37. To: mininggold (#36)

Erica probably can't even disassemble and clean an M16A2 rifle without his kid's help.

He is always so long on bluster it makes good sense to wonder if there is truly any mental horsepower behind it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-12 14:07:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#36)

Actually getting you to show off your vacuous knowledge on US history is priceless.

I love irony.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-12 15:20:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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