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Title: Ron Paul and the Banks
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/ron-paul-and-the-banks/
Published: Jan 5, 2012
Author: SIMON JOHNSON
Post Date: 2012-01-07 11:44:30 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 4853
Comments: 13

We should take Ron Paul seriously. The Texas congressman had an impressive showing in the Iowa caucuses on Tuesday and his poll numbers elsewhere are resilient – he is running a strong third among Republicans nationally and is currently second in New Hampshire polling. He may well become the Republican candidate with populist momentum and energy in the weeks ahead.

Mr. Paul also has a clearly articulated view on the American banking system, laid out forcefully in his 2009 book, “End the Fed.” This book and its bottom-line recommendation that the United States should return to the gold standard – and abolish the Federal Reserve System – tend to be dismissed out of hand by many. That’s a mistake, because Mr. Paul makes many sensible and well-informed points.

But there is a curious disconnect between his diagnosis and his proposed cure, and this disconnect tells us a great deal about why this version of populism from the right is unlikely to make much progress in its current form.

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Would abolishing the Fed really create a paradise for entrepreneurial banking start-ups, enabling them to challenge and overthrow the megabanks?

Or would it just concentrate even more power in the hands of the largest financial players? It is hard to find a moment of greater inequality of power than that of the Gilded Age of the late 1800s – with the gold standard and the associated credit system firmly working to the advantage of J.P. Morgan and his colleagues.

Mr. Paul insists that “in a competitive and free system, deposits would not be unsafe; any that were not paid back that were promised would fall under the laws of protection against fraud” (Page 27).

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Ending the Fed – even if that were possible or desirable – would not end the problem of too-big-to-fail banks. The only credible way to threaten not to bail them out is to insist that even the largest bank is not big enough to bring down the financial system.

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Ending the Fed – even if that were possible or desirable

The Federal Reserve is clearly unconstitutional. Can you acknowledge that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-07   11:46:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

The Federal Reserve is clearly unconstitutional. Can you acknowledge that?

No.

It is not clear to me that the fed is unconstitutional, nor have I heard a convincing argument supporting that position. Perhaps you would make such an argument now?

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-07   12:08:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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A K A Stone: The Federal Reserve is clearly unconstitutional. Can you acknowledge that?

loonybitch: No.

This simple answer demonstrates you lack any fundamental understanding of economics- micro or macro.

All your statements are based on bullshit, because you're either willfully ignorant or unable to accept reality. In other words, you're either stupid or insane.

But of course, I've known this for quite some time, and why I call you loonybitch, et.al. The true victim of your stupidity, is Lucy.

Pity.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-07 13:08:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#2)

The Federal Reserve is clearly unconstitutional. Can you acknowledge that?

No.

It is not clear to me that the fed is unconstitutional, nor have I heard a convincing argument supporting that position. Perhaps you would make such an argument now?

Oh that is easy. Here is the power congress was given by the constitution. Lets see if you are an honest lib.

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-07 13:42:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#2)

No.

It is not clear to me that the fed is unconstitutional, nor have I heard a convincing argument supporting that position. Perhaps you would make such an argument now?

It's actually a very simple argument.

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power...

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

In legal terms and contracts, 'shall have' is an imperative command or absolute. It means that Congress SHALL HAVE that power and cannot delegate that power.

13.1 Shall, should, may, and can

The word shall is used to indicate mandatory requirements strictly to be followed in order to conform to the standard and from which no deviation is permitted (shall equals is required to). The use of the word must is deprecated and shall not be used when stating mandatory requirements; must is used only to describe unavoidable situations. The use of the word will is deprecated and shall not be used when stating mandatory requirements; will is only used in statements of fact.

The word should is used to indicate that among several possibilities one is recommended as particularly suitable, without mentioning or excluding others; or that a certain course of action is preferred but not necessarily required; or that (in the negative form) a certain course of action is deprecated but not prohibited (should equals is recommended that).

english.stackexchange.com...an-unquestionable-command

In the context of a nations legal Constitution, 'shall have' is mandatory and is an imperative command from which no deviation is permitted.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-07 13:56:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Federalist Paper #44

The right of coining money, which is here taken from the States, was left in their hands by the Confederation, as a concurrent right with that of Congress, under an exception in favor of the exclusive right of Congress to regulate the alloy and value. In this instance, also, the new provision is an improvement on the old. Whilst the alloy and value depended on the general authority, a right of coinage in the particular States could have no other effect than to multiply expensive mints and diversify the forms and weights of the circulating pieces. The latter inconveniency defeats one purpose for which the power was originally submitted to the federal head; and as far as the former might prevent an inconvenient remittance of gold and silver to the central mint for recoinage, the end can be as well attained by local mints established under the general authority.

"The right of coining money, which is here taken from the States, was left in their hands by the Confederation, as a concurrent right with that of Congress, under an exception in favor of the exclusive right of Congress to regulate the alloy and value."

usgovinfo.about.com/library/fed/blfed44.htm

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