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Title: The History of Zionism & Judaism
Source: Jews Against Zionism
URL Source: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/history.cfm
Published: Dec 11, 2011
Author: "Hachoma"
Post Date: 2011-12-11 15:36:17 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 11105
Comments: 25

The Jewish people, from its inception, has been unique by its identity as a religious entity. Through the centuries its religious character had been a premise agreed upon by Jews and non-Jews alike. Our faith demands as the fundamental condition for recognition as a Jew, belief and adherence to the word of G-d, as was revealed to our forefathers on Mount Sinai. This is in itself, according to the tenets of the Jewish religion, sufficient to fulfill the definition of a Jew. Our religious and traditional history bears no aspect of racism. Hence, one of non-Jewish origin is capable of being proselytized and attaining the same status as a born Jew. Conversely, one of Jewish birth who does not recognize his being bound to the Jewish Torah, is by Jewish law a heretic, and therefore forfeits his spiritual birthrights as a Jew.

The purpose of the Jew is to bear witness to the existence of G-d, through his adherence to the Torah. The Al-mighty granted the Jews the land of Israel as the particular setting which would serve as the most conducive atmosphere to their performance of their duties to G-d.

The Jews in ancient times were banished from the land of Israel because they had failed to fulfill their obligations to the Al-mighty. Every Jew acknowledges this in his prayers (Umipnei Chatoeinu Golinu Meiartzeinu). They accepted the penalty of exile and were at that time expressed sworn by the Al-mighty not to accelerate their redemption on their own, and especially not to rebel against the nations under whose rule they were found. To the contrary, every Jew is commanded to pray for the peace and well being of the government of which he is the subject.

Through all the years of exile, pious Jews as individuals were attracted to reside in the Holy Land because of its innate holy character and the opportunity it offered for the observance of various precepts bound in the land. Jews as a whole continue to pray that the Al-mighty return his Divine presence to the Land of Israel, by the coming of the Messiah, who will build His Temple, from whence will emanate Divine Wisdom and ultimate spiritual fulfillment of the entire human race.

Through the many years that Jews resided in the Holy Land for this purpose, they enjoyed tranquil and cordial relations with the non-Jewish population there.

The Zionist movement which was formed at the latter part of the last century, sought to endow the Jews with a nationalistic character which was heretofore strange to them. It sought to deprive them of their historically religious character and offered in substitution of faith in G-d and adherence to the Torah...

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#1. To: Not Badeye, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, mininggold, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)

The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs. They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplocatic corps assigned to Jerusalem -- but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

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lucysmom  posted on  2011-12-11   15:40:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"The Zionist movement which was formed at the latter part of the last century, sought to endow the Jews with a nationalistic character which was heretofore strange to them. It sought to deprive them of their historically religious character and offered in substitution of faith in G-d and adherence to the Torah..."

Good piece. It explains well why Zionism and Judaism are not in any way joined at the hip. In fact, it make sense for Jews who love their religion, humanity and justice to become increasingly vocal and active in taking the concept of Zionism to task.

It makes sense for them to work for human rights, a fair justice system and representation in government for all people living in Palestine, not just Jewish Israelis.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-11   15:55:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike, lucysmom, A K A Stone (#2)

It [the article] explains well why Zionism and Judaism are not in any way joined at the hip

That isn't true at all. The entire reason why the Jews claim they are "the chosen people" is because the bloodline covenant established with Yahweh (God) and the entire idea of a Jewish nation was to ensure the bloodline exists forever as the covenant between Jews and Yahweh.

The Jews borrowed their ideas of a single God from Iranian Zoroastrian thought. They further developed rituals and traditions establishing their desert cult as a religion.

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The entire reason why the Jews claim they are "the chosen people" is because the bloodline covenant established with Yahweh (God) and the entire idea of a Jewish nation was to ensure the bloodline exists forever as the covenant between Jews and Yahweh.

Correct. They are a clan with a maternal-based lineage.

Judaism is NOT a religion. Jews HAVE a religion, but Judaism is NOT a religion.

If your mother was Jewish, you are Jewish, even though you may be a rabid atheist. That's the way it works.

They even call themselves "The Tribe".

Clan (Wikipedia): A clan is a group of people united by actual or perceived kinship and descent. Even if lineage details are unknown, clan members may be organized around a founding member or apical ancestor.

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"If your mother was Jewish, you are Jewish, even though you may be a rabid atheist. That's the way it works."

In general, Orthodox Judaism considers a person born of a Jewish mother to be Jewish, even if they convert to another religion.[35] Reform Judaism views Jews who convert to another faith as non-Jews. For example "...anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew..." [Contemporary American Reform Responsa, #68].[36][37][38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

That's the way it works if you look at the beliefs of one part of that faith and doesn't if you look at what other Jewish groups believe.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-11 16:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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If your mother was Jewish, you are Jewish, even though you may be a rabid atheist. That's the way it works.

Excellent! You know what is suggested. I am never surprised at your perspective, either; it is always rooted in an understanding of underlining principles.

There are many sects within Judaism, however: Karites, Kabbalists, Hasidic, Orthodox, Conservatives and they all (to some degree) agree with Rabbinic scholars; they are Jews because of bloodline and the covenant with Yahweh.

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