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Title: Who gives shit if Godwinson post here again?
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Published: Oct 26, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-10-26 11:24:19 by A K A Stone
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"It kinda saddens me that for all your early and present recognition of the evil of socialism/Communism that you would far more closely align with this ilk."
I support whomever I feel is the best man or woman for the country and Constitution; not whomever is closest to me ideologically. Which is why Ron Paul has my support over Obama.
There is nothing enigmatic about me at all. You just think you know me, but you aren't close at all.
#266. To: Ferret Mike (#263)
the first thing I do every time I go to Boston is to go to the harbor to say hello to my favorite girlfriend, the USS Constitution that is docked there.
Which means precisely dick.
That's why I spent so much of my time in the military ready to go fight for and possibly be wounded or die for this country.
Big whoop. I'm a vet, too. You don't see me wear that on my sleeve, to prove my patriotism.
On the contrary, your words and your espoused agenda prove you to be a traitor.
Why not wear THAT on your sleeve? Oh, that's right... you're a disengenuous little sh!t, who doesn't want to be TOO honest about what you really are, and what your agenda really IS.
There are many ways I show my love for the United States, and not one example of my being treasonous. To even posture this notion makes you something beneath contempt.
Let's go through the list, and see if you fit the various symptoms of the sick and destructive liberal (socialist). Follow along, here:
1. intellectually and spiritually bankrupt? YEP. Definitely.
2. infected with a ...hatred of tradition, morals and values? YEP.
3. deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them? YEP. Check.
4. [Pushing for] animal bill of rights, pet guardianship and the picketing of KFC? YEP.
5. support the millions of illegal immigrants filling our schools, hospitals and prisons and the accompanying multi-billion dollar tax burden? Most definitely.
6. The call for celebration of other cultures is revealed to be a mere mask fueling the fires of racial and class divisions. SURE! (That was an easy one.) 7. [Pushing for the] dismantling of Western civilization? Of COURSE
! 8. pervasiveness and unending in its preaching [of the agenda of dismantling Western Civilization]? Sure! (Another easy one.)
9. Principle is abandoned for practicality? Absolutely. You have no principles, being the traitor you ARE.
10. Cooperation becomes compromise. Public relations become political correctness. And the path of least resistance leads to surrender? YEAH, that's EXACTLY what you want.
And there you have it! You're 100% TRAITOR!
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#267. To: Capitalist Eric (#266)
Chuckles...speaking of circular reasoning...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#268. To: war (#267)
Yeah, you must be getting DIZZY by now, with all the spinning YOU do.
Then again, considering what an empty-headed little sh!t you really are, maybe not.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#269. To: Capitalist Eric (#268)
Awww, Junior...and here were were getting along so famously...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#270. To: war (#269)
Awww, Junior...and here were were getting along so famously...
Getting bored with bitch-slapping you, is simply being bored with you.
If your loser life is so miserable that you must construe my lack of patience with your predictably trite commentary, than you're even more of a loser than I took you for.
But hey, if that's what it takes for you to feel like someone GAS about you or the empty life you lead...? Whatever.
Make yourself happy... go buy a new car... some banking stock, perhaps...? [I hear BofA is looking really good right now... <<< wink, wink, nudge, nudge...>>>]
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#271. To: Capitalist Eric (#270)
Getting bored with bitch-slapping you, is simply being bored with you.
If you're bitch slapping me then why am I the one laughing and you the one so...so...angry?
[snicker]
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#272. To: war (#271) (Edited)
If you're bitch slapping me then why am I the one laughing and you the one so...so...angry?[snicker]
Because you're an idiot, and a traitor.
You think this is a game, and that it's FUN to tear my country apart.
And- the worst mistake of all- you think we're gonna' let you succeed.
NOT gonna' happen, asshole.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#273. To: Capitalist Eric (#272)
Cuz yer an i'dyet and a trayter
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#274. To: war (#273)
More like THIS:
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#275. To: Capitalist Eric (#274)
Chuckles...I would so love for you to try...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#276. To: mininggold (#238)
Truman served almost TWO COMPLETE TERMS.
Correct me if I'm wrong,but doesn't that mean he was only elected once?
AND....,he had "home field advantage" even then because he was already in the WH.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#277. To: mininggold (#240)
And of course you ignore his initiation of normalization of relations with China, which was my whole point and obviously went over your head.
Most of what you say goes over my head.
Then again,I am human and don't understand alien thought processes .
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#278. To: mininggold (#241)
Then why do you keep mentioning her in an inappropriate context?
Why do people keep mentioning cancer?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#279. To: Liberator (#244)
The McCarthy Lynching was the lynch-pin that determined the very direction and track the US would be taking into the future. With FDR and his Commies having already infiltrated key positions (as now) moled in goobermint, the judiciary, and media, they intimidated, bribed, and overpowered the right people....
And the mindless Dim fieldhands are STILL defending King Franklin and his cousin Queen.
Ironically enough,the people MOST responsible for the coverup of the communist infiltration of this country and blaming everything on the "rich" were some of the richest people in the country. Namely Hollywood and newspaper "royalty". The very people whose personal fortunes INCREASED during the Depression.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#280. To: Liberator (#246)
he was Dugout Dougs XODoes that mean what I *think* it means
Probably not. It just means Dugout Doug was his immediate superior,and Ike was the guy that insured his orders and wishes were obeyed.
Think of Dougout Doug as the President and Ike as the Chief of Staff. Which is really what a Executive Officer (XO) in a military unit does.
The Commanding Officer gets to remain aloof from any problems his ideas and orders cause,and his XO takes the blame because he is the one that sees the orders are followed.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#281. To: Skip Intro (#247)
I don't think it is, nor is it illegal to falsely claim military honors one isn't entitled to,
It is a federal felony and has been since Colonial Days to claim to be a serving officer in the United States military unless you really are.
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.
There are people in federal prisons right now for committing these crimes.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#282. To: war (#275)
Chuckles...I would so love for you to try...
I don't "try" anything. If I choose to do something, I do it, and nothing stops me.
I'm not unique, in this regard- there are a lot of REAL Americans like that. Sadly, as an anti-American socialist traitor, such things are beyond your understanding or experience.
But in due time, I'm quite confident that will change. :)
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--
#283. To: war (#248)
Apples and Oranges. Venona was a WWII War Department project because noone trusted Stalin - rightly so, apparently. And, IIRC, most of the names gathered during the course of Venona were code names those whose names were discovered were prosecuted...
No,it wasn't. It wasn't even a department. It was nothing more than a code name,and even the code name changed all the time. Venona was the code name in use with the files were made public,so they became known as the Venona Files.
Army and Navy Intelligence,the FBI,and probably every other agency in the US government contributed information that eventually found it's way to those files.
I forget now who was in primary charge of this intelligence,but I suspect it was the Defense Intelligence Agency,or it's forerunner.
Are you talking about the HUAC list? You do know that McCarthy was a Senator,right?
Yea so? Again, there wasn't a singular list but several lists compiled of artists, politicians, media figures.
Ok,so you WERE talking about the HUAC lists,and blaming a US Senator for them.
Nice try.
Since when is an accusation a presumption of guilt?
Since when is anybody found innocent of all charges if no formal charges have ever been filed and resulted in a court conviction?
And they were tried and the only charge that stuck was "contempt of Congress"...
HorseHillary. Very few were tried because no evidence could be presented against them in court without disclosing other intelligence operations or assets.
Or because they were people like Maw Roosevelt and others closely connected to King Franklin. They were and are immune to any charges.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#284. To: war (#249)
All that matters is that he was not leading them into "battle" whcih was your original charge.
No,what matters is you are wrong because he WAS on the scene,and he WAS the one who issued the orders to attack the Bonus Marchers.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#285. To: sneakypete (#281) (Edited)
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.
See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
#286. To: Ferret Mike, Liberator (#255)
How do you get that notion? The first thing he did was allow a major timber sale in the Tsongas national Park in Alaska.
And let's not forget bailing out major international corporations to make sure they don't lose money. Socialists don't do that.
The truth is he isn't a socialist anymore than he is a Muslim.
What he IS,is a Barry-Bot. He worships himself. Ego is his religion.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#287. To: Skip Intro (#285)
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
I believe it has been a federal felony for decades now. I think what has happened here is that he was changed under the wrong charges. The original charges are probably unknown to the prosecutor who only knows of the 2005 Stolen Valor Act.
And no,I don't remember the title of the original offense.
The way it was explained to be about impersonating a serving officer being a federal felony is because serving officers have the right (not to mention duty) of carrying loaded firearms anywhere they go,and they can't be arrested for it because if Martial Law were declared they would be the ones who became the local LEO's and Sheriffs until order was restored. If they did not have this legal right they could be arrested by local LEO's for violating local ordinances.
IIRC,this goes back to Colonial Days.
Which means chances are nobody has ever been charged under this stature in the last 200 years.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#288. To: Capitalist Eric (#282)
If I choose to do something, I do it, and nothing stops me.
Please choose to do so, Junior.
See...I even used the *magic* word...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#289. To: sneakypete (#283)
No,it wasn't. It wasn't even a department. It was nothing more than a code name,and even the code name changed all the time. Venona was the code name in use with the files were made public,so they became known as the Venona Files.
You're challenging my knowledge of WWII history?
Yowzah...
But, you got me, Venona it was indeed a WWII MID project,
Ok,so you WERE talking about the HUAC lists,and blaming a US Senator for them.
I wasn't blaming McCarthy for anything other than using the HUAC lists that, as you know, were already in existence.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#290. To: sneakypete (#284)
C'mon Sneak...do I REALLY need to post that pic of MacArthur giving orders for attack on the Bonus Army?
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#291. To: war (#290)
C'mon Sneak...do I REALLY need to post that pic of MacArthur giving orders for attack on the Bonus Army?
Of course not,but the Emperor was above such things as actually mingling with common soldiers. He told Ike to get it done,and it was Ike that was on the ground and giving the orders for the attack to proceed.
This means it was Ike leading the attack by ordering Patton to proceed.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#292. To: sneakypete (#197)
Eisenhower was nothing more than a overpaid clerk. As far as I know the only really good thing he did personally his whole life was remind everybody to "beware of the military-industrial complex" on his way out the WH door. That doesn't make up for him leading the raid on the Bonus Marchers,though. Which is the closest this General ever got to combat.
Background:
Born the third of seven sons in Denison, Texas to David Jacob Eisenhower and Ida Elizabeth Stover. His father was an Engineer while his mother was a devoted follower and supporter of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses). The family home served as the local meeting hall for the group from 1896 to 1915.
The constant and regular exposure of Eisenhower to End of the World imagery mixed with Bible prophecy by the Jehovah's Witnesses had a profound impact on him throughout his life. While he was never a gifted student, nor known for his intellect, his fascination in occult and religious power placed him more than once midst powerful men, who assisted his career.
Dwight graduated from High School around 1909 at the age of 19. He then took a night shift labouring job at the Belle Springs Creamery. In 1911, Eisenhower attempted to apply for the Naval Academy but failed the basic entrance exam. In later years, his record was changed to claim he passed, but was somehow ineligible on account of his age, even though he qualified under the age limit at the time.
Later that year (1911), powerful US Senator for Kansas Joseph L. Bristow used his influence to get Eisenhower into West Point Military Academy. The motivation for this act and how he came to know Eisenhower has never been properly explained. At Westpoint Eisenhower again he showed mediocre academic skills, but managed to scrape through and graduate.
Unlike most of his fellow graduates, Eisenhower never saw action in World War I. Instead, he spent the first few years with the National Guard and then assigned to various new tank corps where he met General Fox Conner. He had the dubious honor of having his temporary rank of Major being revoked and being demoted back to Captain by 1922.
When General Conner was appointed Camp Gaillard, Panama and the Panama Canal Zone, he made Eisenhower his executive officer - a role he held from 1922 until 1924. It was under the guidance of General Conner that Eisenhower found a grounding in essential military strategy and politics. After finishing his term with Conner, Eisenhower was promoted again to Major and attended the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth.
His career then stagnated for five years until in 1929 he was appointed Executive Assistant to General George Moseley, then Secretary of War. In 1933, he was then appointed chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur and accompanied him to the Philippines. It was through MacArthur that Eisenhower first came to the attention of the all-powerful American Jesuit Fr. Edmund A. Walsh. MacArthur was educated by the Jesuits and Walsh was his influential patron.
Eisenhower quickly became an even more deeply devoted fan of Fr. Walsh and his geopolitical mind than his superior General MacArthur.
At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Eisenhower returned from the Philippines at 49 but a Lt. Colonel. By June 1941, six months before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Col. Eisenhower was appointed to the War Department General Staff in Washington D.C. and to a role holding the temporary rank of Brigadier General.
Whatever his role in the events leading up to Pearl Harbor, he soon held favor with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, another staunch supporter of Fr. Edmund A. Walsh S.J.
In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history.
The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit.
Upon his arrival in England in 1943, a controversial claim has been made that Eisenhower received a communique from senior members of the SS offering clear and specific terms of unconditional surrender of all German forces, including the assassination of Hitler, if the Americans would help halt the Soviet advance into Central Europe.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
In 1944, Eisenhower was confirmed as a Five Star General and Chief of the Army. In spite of the massive logistical superiority of the Allied forces, the Eisenhower D-Day plan very nearly failed. Again, during the Battle of the Bulge Eisenhower inexplicably ordered the halt of the encirclement of German forces enabling up to 150,000 to escape and prolonging the war a further twelve months.
No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
One man that did know the truth was Gen. George Smith Patton. On December 9th 1945, the day before he was due to fly back to Washington to meet with President Truman with proof that Eisenhower was a traitor who had costs the lives of thousands of American soldiers and millions of civilians, he was seriously injured in a “road accident” near Mannheim, Germany on 9 Dec 1945 (dying in hospital 21 December 1945). Miraculously the other occupants of the car in which Patton was critically injured escaped unharmed.
To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable. These false rumours still persist today.
However, there can be no doubt about the direct orders of Eisenhower in Operation Keelhaul- the repatriation of over two million former Russian prisoners of war to Joseph Stalin. While the actions of Eisenhower have always been maintained as a fact of life following the Yalta Agreement between Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt, the manner and clear fate of these poor souls was nothing short of Genocide on the same level as Adolf Hitler and the SS. [Article excerpt end]
Parrot: The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards.
While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.
Father Walsh with General Douglas MacArthur in Tokyo, 1948
Since WW-2 and the emergence of the IMF/World Bank,and the various thinktank groups/councils...like the CFR,The 300 Committee,Bilderbergs,
Vatican/Jesuit influence has been passed off to these.
#293. To: sneakypete (#276)
Correct me if I'm wrong,but doesn't that mean he was only elected once?AND....,he had "home field advantage" even then because he was already in the WH.
Do you ever actually READ your own posts?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#294. To: Capitalist Eric (#266) (Edited)
"Which means precisely dick."
Fascinating; as this common epithet for a fuckwit like you discribes you well.
I had not expected you to understand my lifelong love of my personal metaphor for the country I am from and love. Old Ironsides never lost a battle. She inspired the citizens of this country to ave her when she reached old age and faced a normal death for a wooden ship.
Children sent their pennies to keep her with us, and she is still strong, beautiful; a piece of living poetry and heart song chiseled from live oak and iron.
I go to her and always remember why I love this place, the United States.
Nothing I am can say is going to change your delusions of grandeur regarding your own high impression of yourself, or change the mission you have to make this other then a game where you seek to drive those you hate from here.
This comprehension of your motives, what you are, and how this place is likely an outlet to relieve pressure from elements of your live causing you stress or a lack of control makes me beyond you ability to affect me.
I am enjoying watching the show, and want you to keep this up. Keep on showing us what you are and what stuff you are made of Erica.
Your tail chasing doesn't mean squat to me. ;-)
#295. To: Parrot with speed dial, snrakypete (#292)
The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards. While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.
IIRC Denison Texas had no documented recording of Ike's birth there and it wasn't until many years later that Mamie put the info together and had his father sign it.
But it's still fun to see ol sneaky just makin' shit up. For just being an overpaid clerk, that Eisenhower was sure busy making history.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#296. To: Skip Intro, sneakypete (#285)
It is also a federal felony to claim to be a Medal of Honor winner if you're not.See this story to see why that's not true - yet.
The Stolen Valor Act (18 U.S.C. §704) was revised in 2005. This revised version was ruled unconstitutional by the 9th Circuit in 2010. As noted, the Supreme Court has granted cert to hear the case sometime in 2012.
An infraction pertaining to the Medal of Honor provided for imprisonment for not more than one year. A federal felony is subject to imprisonment in excess of one year. The statute would only establish a misdemeanor.
The Act, as presently drafted, applies to pure speech; it imposes a criminal penalty of up to a year of imprisonment, plus a fine, for the mere utterance or writing of what is, or may be perceived as, a false statement of fact—without anything more.[...]
The rule the government and dissent urge us to apply in order to uphold the Act would, if adopted, significantly enlarge the scope of existing categorical exceptions to First Amendment protection. All previous circumstances in which lies have been found proscribable involve not just knowing falsity, but additional elements that serve to narrow what speech may be punished. Indeed, if the Act is constitutional under the analysis proffered by Judge Bybee, then there would be no constitutional bar to criminalizing lying about one’s height, weight, age, or financial status on Match.com or Facebook, or falsely representing to one’s mother that one does not smoke, drink alcoholic beverages, is a virgin, or has not exceeded the speed limit while driving on the freeway. The sad fact is, most people lie about some aspects of their lives from time to time. Perhaps, in context, many of these lies are within the government’s legitimate reach. But the government cannot decide that some lies may not be told without a reviewing court’s undertaking a thoughtful analysis of the constitutional concerns raised by such government interference with speech.
Finding no appropriate way to avoid the First Amendment question Alvarez poses, we hold that the speech proscribed by the Act is not sufficiently confined to fit among the narrow categories of false speech previously held to be beyond the First Amendment’s protective sweep. We then apply strict scrutiny review to the Act, and hold it unconstitutional because it is not narrowly tailored to achieving a compelling governmental interest.
Alvarez v USA, 9th Cir 08-50345 (17 Aug 2010) - OPINION (Stolen Valor Act Unconstitutional)
#297. To: Parrot with speed dial (#292)
In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history. The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit.
As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.
Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?
And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
Anybody that thinks it was Eisenhower made that decision is either ignorant of how the army works,or is delusional. That decision was made in the WH and at the Pentagram in the office of the JCS.
To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable.
Patton WAS mentally unstable. I have talked with soldiers that served under him in WW-2,and they were all in agreement that he was both insane and a asshole. One of these men was childhood friends of my parents that was drafted in WW-2,and ended up winning a DSC and battlefield promotion in North Africa,ending up as a 1st Lt and Armor platoon leader.
BTW,being mentally unstable doesn't mean he was wrong when it came to how to win the war and the danger of the Soviets,though.
No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
Once again,that decision was above his paygrade. It was made in the WH by King Franklin,who was looking out for his Soviet buddies. That's the way it works in America. The President makes the decisions,and the military salutes and says "Yes Sir!"
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#298. To: mininggold (#293)
Do you ever actually READ your own posts?
Yeah,and I even understand he was only elected President once.
Get some grammar school child to explain this to you. Preferably one that goes to a private school,and not a AA Academy.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#299. To: mininggold (#295)
For just being an overpaid clerk, that Eisenhower was sure busy making history.
Like all good clerks,he was good at following orders.
Patton even said that Ike was the best clerk he ever had.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#300. To: sneakypete (#297)
Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?
Well...had it been Patton there'd have been no Cold War and had it been MacArthur, there'd have been WWIII... MHO...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#301. To: nolu chan (#296)
An infraction pertaining to the Medal of Honor provided for imprisonment for not more than one year. A federal felony is subject to imprisonment in excess of one year. The statute would only establish a misdemeanor.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
At least technically. The few cases I know of where someone has gone to jail for falsely claiming a MoH always involved profiting from that claim. Which would make it a fraud and a felony. Telling your neighbor you earned a MoH is one thing. Telling audiences on speaking tours or using those credentials in order to establish your "legend" in order to promote your business and get contracts is something altogether different.
Finding no appropriate way to avoid the First Amendment question Alvarez poses, we hold that the speech proscribed by the Act is not sufficiently confined to fit among the narrow categories of false speech previously held to be beyond the First Amendment’s protective sweep.
Alvarez was wrong to compare claims of earning a MoH to simple everyday lying,and you would have to be blind to not see it.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
#302. To: sneakypete (#299)
Like all good clerks,he was good at following orders.Patton even said that Ike was the best clerk he ever had.
Patton considered the whole world his clerk. But he didn't get the last laugh.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#303. To: sneakypete (#298)
Do you ever actually READ your own posts?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
#304. To: mininggold (#303)
Do you ever actually READ your own posts?
I don't have to. I write them.
Have YOU ever read one with a coach nearby to explain them to you?
You know,somebody capable of having a actual thought that MIGHT be willing to put up with you?
There are reasons why people are Dims,ranging from shallow gene pools to fetal alcohol syndrome,being dropped on the head a lot,being given acid instead of children's aspirin while a child,etc,etc,etc.
I keep wondering what your story is.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011
Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs
Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
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