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Title: Who gives shit if Godwinson post here again?
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Published: Oct 26, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-10-26 11:24:19 by A K A Stone
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Who would like to see him post here again?

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#452. To: mininggold (#451)

"I think it's much simpler, Erica is 'just plain nuts'."

Indeed it is that simple. But part of the fun for me is figuring out the whys and hows that make that so.

Which is why I'm dissecting the frog here.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-01   0:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: Ferret Mike (#452)

Indeed it is that simple. But part of the fun for me is figuring out the whys and hows that make that so.

Which is why I'm dissecting the frog here.

To change the topic some, I apologize for my bluntness, but Jwpegler has compared male genitalia to tea bags. And since hopefully he's not sneaking a peek at others but is in fact describing his own, someone needs to email him that that is definitely not a normal appearance and that he should see a doctor ASAP. He has me on bozo.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-01   0:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: mininggold (#453) (Edited)

Either that or he should stop taking medications like Premarin if he is doing so. Conjugated estrogens taken by males over an extended period can also do bad things to size and shape.

They can also turn the high beams on and make the headlights quite blinding on guys. Not to mention that wives hate having to share the use of their bras with their hubbies

Interesting speculation. However, suffice it to say, I'm glad I'm not his doctor.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-01   0:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: sneakypete (#425)

WhinyOLD wants to have your baby. "She" WANTS you.

"She" LUSTS after your actual MALE persona.

What have I ever done to you to have you scare me like this?

Well ...

It IS Halloween right?

Hell, the thought gives ME nightmares.

Think of all of the poor homeless cats there would be if "she" ever actually picked a man over them?

T' aint a purty sight.

Fur sure.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-11-01   2:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: whinyOLD mininggold, sneakypete (#431)

Mad Dog is only using me as a surrogate to show you how much he 'loves' you. He's shy.

LOL! You STUPID libTURD bitch!

You can say alot of things about me, but me being SHY, is NOT one of them you stupid libTURD bitch.

But I do notice that you fat azzed libTURD bitches are in love with the very idea of queer sex!

Let me ax you a question you stupid libTURD bitch, IF being "gay" is GOOD why do you lying HYPOCRITICAL libTURD bitches TRY to use being queer as an insult against conservatives?

Oh yeah, you are FOUL libTURD HYPOCRITES.

Too bad for you bitch, pete and I both like WOMEN, unlike all of the libTURD "men" that YOU know and love bitch.

LOL!

libTURDISM is a mental DISEASE.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-11-01   2:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: fat azzed libTURD whinyOLD, sneakypete (#437)

Just because he ran away from you doesn't mean he is shy. The only way you can get any action is to sneak up on somebody with a club and a can of spray starch.

SPANG!

"The sting in any rebuke is the TRUTH of it!"

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-11-01   2:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: Ferret Mike (#448)

Neither you, nor mingbat, loonybitch or dummy have any idea what I'm about.

Don't *flatter* yourselves.

It takes *years* of study, to get the whole picture. You study the daily talking-points, and that's *it.*

You morons are useful idiots, no more or less.

It'd be easy to say I hate your guts, but that's not entirely accurate.

I hate everything that you fucking leftists *stand* for.

You believe in that shit, because you're incredibly arrogant, and dumb-as-a- stump STUPID.

Your idiotic ideas have been tried repeatedly, and bring only misery and death. 100% consistent. THAT is what you stand for, PERIOD.

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-11-01   2:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: whinyOLD mininggold, sneakypete (#441)

LOL!

You are honestly just too F'ing STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID to actually breathe on your own bitch!

Any honest examination of pete and my exchanges over the years, would really get the impression that he or I, would REALLY go out of our ways to "impress" each other.

/NOT

LOL!

You are projecting how you would act onto us bitch!

LMAO!

You STOOOOOOOOOOOPID F'ing libTURD mouth breather.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-11-01   2:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: cornflake BOY uh weasel GURL uh faggot mikey uh Ferret Mike (#442)

Foul blah blah Foul blah blah

LOL!

As usual you libTURD parasite you have NOTHING but your foul dreams.

Which certainly means NOTHING to any actually sane person.

Ta DA!

You pitiful little libTURD parasite bitch!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-11-01   2:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: Capitalist Eric (#458)

"It takes *years* of study, to get the whole picture. You study the daily talking-points, and that's *it.*

Agreed to the time intensive part. But if you wish to think of me as not having been to any institutions of higher learning, that is your prerogative.

It is not requisite to present credentials to post here, and your rhetorical harpoons don't bother me. ;-)

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-01   2:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#462. To: Mad Dog (#460)

So Steve, did you get a good take while trick or treating tonight?

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-01   2:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: cornflake BOY uh weasel GURL uh faggot mikey uh Ferret Mike (#462)

cornflake BOY being cornflake BOY

LOL!

As usual, you whiny little libTURD parasite bitch, you have NOTHING .

Ta DA!

You pitiful little libTURD parasite bitch!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You PITIFUL little libTURD parasite bitch.

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-11-01   2:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: Capitalist Eric (#446)

Having a numb cunt like you for a mother, must be a real drag.

sounds like you have mommy issues.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-01   4:57:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: mininggold (#449)

S/he's such a bright bulb that s/he still 'thinks' I'm Lucysmom.

and pretty proud of himself too for "figuring" that out.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-01   5:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: Capitalist Eric (#458)

Neither you, nor mingbat, loonybitch or dummy have any idea what I'm about.

Don't *flatter* yourselves.

It takes *years* of study, to get the whole picture. You study the daily talking-points, and that's *it.*

If your conclusion that mininggold and I are the same person, is an example of your ability to think, grasp reality, and come to useful understandings about the world and the way it works, then you is in deep poopoo.

I hate everything that you fucking leftists *stand* for.

You hate the image that you project on those you label "leftist". In other words, your hate is the fruit of your own fractured "self".

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-01   5:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: lucysmom (#466)

Since 'ferret' went from being a tolerated "liberal" on Free Republic to being banned in the purge in early 2001, I have had over a hundred returning bannee accounts there. I got pretty well versed in who people like Eric are.

In fact, John Robinson absolutely loathes me with purple passion and anyone doing a ferret' version of the old Don Morgan, 'ASH ALERT!" warning because that early returning disruptor had him captivated would get John Robinson's undivided attention.

Erica is much like a classic 1980 FReeper archetype and is very entertaining to watch.

He in the end is his own worst enemy as he inadvertently works in synergy with Steve Mad Doggie Dog chasing the laser pointer light like some pair of demented kittens. Ironically he hates Steve.

He would loathe how well they work together in forum. They are not like spme demented version of two thirds of the Three Stooges done bu Tim Burton, but they should do a vaudeville act together and at least make some money off their act doing You Tube videos together making money off the merchandising of their joint channel.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-01   6:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: Capitalist Eric (#438)

It's better then what you'd get if you talked that way to me in real time. Count your blessing, dumb shit.

LOL. Resorting to the internet threats, eh?

He likes doing that you know, you aren't the first one to receive that threat from Dr Sigmund Fraud......

Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-11-01   6:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: CZ82 (#468)

Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE"

Number of self-loathing, pseudo conservatives who have bozoed me, 9. Using your logic, that makes me more correct than you.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-01   7:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: lucysmom (#469)

Number of self-loathing, pseudo conservatives who have bozoed me, 9. Using your logic, that makes me more correct than you.

I guess that depends on your point of view.....

Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-11-01   7:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: AKAStone, All (#427)

Stone,don't you think it's about time to end this thread? Seems like at least the last 100 posts have been one poster attacking another with nobody really commenting on the thread itself.

And "Yeah,I am guilty of this,too."

Folks,why don't we all just move on to something else and start actually discussing opinions of the subject matter?

This thread is done. Give it a proper burial.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-11-01   10:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#471)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-11-01   10:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#471)

Stoned, locking this thread seems like a good petey suggestion. I concur.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-11-01   10:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: Fred Mertz (#473)

It is way long overdue to lock this thread, but Stone seldom does measures that are good for his forum, so good luck getting him to do this.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-01   10:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: CZ82 (#468)

He likes doing that you know, you aren't the first one to receive that threat from Dr Sigmund Fraud......

You fifth graders and the need to constantly remind others of your favorite substance are a hoot. Eric constantly posts about it with you showing pictures of it. And the Tea Party is suffering because of it because the general public is finding out what the typical Tea Party supporter is like. And they have to hide the children in your presence.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-01   11:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: Fred Mertz (#473)

Stoned, locking this thread seems like a good petey suggestion. I concur.

This is the perfect thread to show off the mentality of the Tea Party supporters. I say let it stay, and keep em posting.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-01   11:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: sneakypete (#471)

Folks,why don't we all just move on to something else and start actually discussing opinions of the subject matter?

Is someone stopping you?

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-01   11:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: sneakypete, Moonbat Ming (#477) (Edited)

Sane Poster: "Folks,why don't we all just move on to something else and start actually discussing opinions of the subject matter?"

Insane House Commie: "Is someone stopping you?"

And there you have it; No mountain of acrid sh*t is too much for typical Commie Moonbat riff-raff. If Mining Moonbat can't wallow in it, she's not happy.

Liberator  posted on  2011-11-01   13:15:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: mininggold (#475)

You fifth graders and the need to constantly remind others of your favorite substance are a hoot. Eric constantly posts about it with you showing pictures of it. And the Tea Party is suffering because of it because the general public is finding out what the typical Tea Party supporter is like. And they have to hide the children in your presence.

So are you trying to be Dr Sigmund Frauds apprentice????

Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-11-01   15:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: CZ82 (#479) (Edited)

So are you trying to be Dr Sigmund Frauds apprentice????

Are you saying that the expression of behaviors, that are generally outgrown by the age of three years, need a psychoanalyst to ferret them out?

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-11-01   15:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: lucysmom (#469)

Number of self-loathing, pseudo conservatives who have bozoed me, 9.

As long as you've been here I wouldn't be afraid to say that some of them don't even post here anymore..

Some people don't like to be argued with, some only want to hear the same opinion as their own, some want to get in the last word, some don't want to hear the truth, some don't want to hear what they consider to be lies, some don't want to be insulted or embarressed by their opinions..... So I don't know what to tell you as to why it is that many......

Number of shallow, inadequate, hypocritical Leftards who have me on BOZO---3.......... That means I'm doing my job correctly !!!!!!!!! "CHANGE" you can step in..... My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than the self appointed Messiah!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-11-01   15:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: CZ82 (#468)

LucysIDIOTmom, teaching her kids:

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-11-01   18:10:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: Liberator (#478)

Insane House Commie: "Is someone stopping you?"

And there you have it;

Yup. Some people are only interested in stirring the shit.

Probably because they have shit for brains,and that makes them feel the most comfortable. They get that "warm and squishy feeling" and don't even have to wash afterwards.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-11-01   20:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: Capitalist Eric, Badeye (#51)

You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.

Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question: Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR.

You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.

Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.

As for 'godwincing' posters come, posters go. The rep of the site is what you should be worrying about. Thats the only 'constant' you have any influence over. So far, this site is just as amaturishly run as it was when I signed up.

And thats the problem...unless you enjoy being humiliated, taunted, and insulted by people on the internet. Maybe you do. I honestly don't get it, but its your site. Like the song says, you can't always have what you want, but you get what you need, eh?

Seeya round.

+1.

+2

We The People  posted on  2011-11-01   21:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#160)

Hmmmm,are you calling Yu-Tard a leftist?

LOL!

If he's not...I am.

We The People  posted on  2011-11-01   21:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: lucysmom (#469)

"Number of self-loathing, pseudo conservatives who have bozoed me, 9."

Got me beat; I have six people with me on their kill file list.

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-02   1:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#487. To: Ferret Mike (#486)

Got me beat...

I did it without even trying.

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-02   2:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#488. To: Capitalist Eric (#438)

"You're a worthless sack of shit. You're too fucking STOOOPID to even hold down a job as a fucking *helicopter* mechanic. You've failed in everything that you set out to do, so now you're a permanent parasite on society- feeding on it, as a paid pol. It's not baiting, it's exactly what you've already stated. You don't like it? TOO FUCKING BAD, you PUTZ."

Title: Nader doesn't make ballot in Oregon (I did it!
Ferret's whistleblowing paid off.)
Source: news.statesmanjournal.com
URL Source: http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=86030
Published: Sep 1, 2004
Author: staff
Post Date: 2004-09-01 17:48:03 by ferret
Views: 0
Comments: 50

The news could bolster Sen. John Kerry's bid to keep Oregon, and could hurt President Bush's efforts to take the state

Secretary of State Bill Bradbury announced today that independent candidates Ralph Nader and Sandra Kucera failed to qualify for the Oregon presidential and vice presidential ballot.

The Nader/Kucera campaign turned in 15,088 valid signatures, failing to meet the statutory requirement of 15,306 to qualify for the ballot.

Oregon is expected to be a highly contested state in this year's presidential election. Al Gore won Oregon by the slimmest of margins in 2000. Many pundits believe that Nader's name on this year's ballot could be enough to push Oregon into the grasp of President Bush, and away from the Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry.

Consequently, many Republicans had been advocating for Nader to be on the Oregon ballot, and many Democrats had been fighting to keep him off the ballot.

The Nader/Kucera campaign brought signatures to the Secretary of State's Elections Division last week, but many of the signatures do not count because of the Nader campaign's failure to comply with the legal requirements governing petition circulation and signature sheets.

"It's my duty to uphold the law, and it is clear that signatures on sheets that do not comply with the law cannot be counted," Bradbury said.

There were numerous problems with the Nader/Kucera petitions, according to Bradbury's office. Among the many requirements that were not met by the Nader/Kucera campaign, the law requires that signature sheets be numbered by the campaign before being turned in to the county clerks for signature verification. The numbers allow sheets to be tracked and double-checked between the county clerks and the Elections Division. Elections officials found that in many cases signature sheets were not numbered by the campaign at all, or the numbers were altered by the Nader campaign after the sheets left the county clerks but before they were turned in to the Secretary of State.

"Any alteration of public documents opens the door to fraud," said Bradbury, "and threatens the integrity of the elections process."

Additional signatures could not be counted because of the Nader/Kucera campaign's failure to properly sign and date signature sheets, the secretary of state's office said. The sign and date rules, recently upheld by a federal court, also serve to prevent fraud.

Bradbury — a Democrat — went on to say that he was "disappointed in the Nader campaign," but that "Nader failed to follow the law, and my job is to uphold it."

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Wrong erica

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-02   2:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#489. To: Capitalist Eric (#438) (Edited)

Title: Union says Nader's circulators forged signatures (Ferret got the ball rolling on this story!!)
Source: katu.com
URL Source: http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=70187
Published: Aug 16, 2004
Author: AP
Post Date: 2004-08-16 19:00:47 by ferret
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Comments: 74

SALEM, Ore. - Ralph Nader's supporters were accused Monday of turning in fraudulent petition signatures in their last-ditch effort to place Nader's name on Oregon's Nov. 2 presidential ballot.

The Service Employees International Union, which is backing Democrat John Kerry's candidacy, said its analysis of signatures turned in so far by Nader's supporters suggests that two-thirds of them are fraudulent.

Alice Dale, the union's vice president, said it appears there has been "overwhelming and systemic fraud" in the Nader petition effort.

The union also presented the sworn statement of a janitor who said he heard three Nader petitioners, who are paid by the signature, sitting in an isolated stairwell discussing techniques for forging names.

Michael McCarthy, who said he overheard the conversation at the Skidmore Fountain Building where Nader's canvassing operation is headquartered, told reporters that one of the petitioners described "ways to make sure the forged signatures looked more real."

Later, he said, he saw a petitioner with pages ripped out of the telephone directory copying names onto a sheet.

"Furthermore, looking at the petition sheets for any length of time raises the question of whether campaign officials knew or at the very least should have known about the false signatures," Dale said.

Nader's Oregon campaign coordinator, Greg Kafoury, denied that there was any deliberate attempt by the campaign to turn in fraudulent or invalid signatures.

Kafoury said about 65 percent of the signatures turned in to Multnomah County have been found to be valid, which he said was about average for such a petition drive.

Further, he said the allegations against the Nader campaign represent more "dirty tricks" by Democrats and unions backing Kerry who want to keep Nader off Oregon's presidential ballot this fall.

Kafoury said he remained hopeful that Nader supporters will be able to round up at least 15,000 valid petition signatures to qualify him for the ballot.

The signatures are due Aug. 24, although Nader backers will need to turn them in this week to give counties time to verify the signatures.

(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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#35. To: ferret (#28)

The union also presented the sworn statement of a janitor who said he heard three Nader petitioners, who are paid by the signature, sitting in an isolated stairwell discussing techniques for forging names.

Michael McCarthy, who said he overheard the conversation at the Skidmore Fountain Building where Nader's canvassing operation is headquartered, told reporters that one of the petitioners described "ways to make sure the forged signatures looked more real."

Later, he said, he saw a petitioner with pages ripped out of the telephone directory copying names onto a sheet.

1. What were you doing in the stairwell?

2. Were the voices male and/or female.

3. Did you see any of them other than the one ripping the phone book?

4. What did he/she look like?

5. Date and time you witnessed these events.

6. Have you ever had any experience in forging petitions for Mr. Nader in previous campaigns?

7. Wouldn't your time be better spent promoting all the Kerry wonders than trying to prevent folks from voting?

harrowup posted on 2004-08-17 14:24:29 ET Reply Trace

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#37. To: harrowup (#35)

"1. What were you doing in the stairwell?"

Actually this was on stairs in the atrium portion of the building. The maintenance room is on the third floor, and I could see the petitioners - one of whom had queried me for a signature earlier - sitting in an out of the way spot on the second floor eating and talking with petitioning paperwork laying in front of them.

The third floor stairs is shut off from the first and second floor atrium concourse by a gate and wire fence. I quietly went over and sat as close to them above them on the stairs.

They were visible and audible to me - I was actually visible to them had they been suspicious enough of me to notice I was there and to care.

This was in a public place in the building in that you can actually reach where I was via the elevator when it is not in security mode later in the day and at night.

"2. Were the voices male and/or female."

They were male.

"3. Did you see any of them other than the one ripping the phone book?"

As I indicated above, yes. I saw all of them.

"4. What did he/she look like?

5. Date and time you witnessed these events."

I am not going to pick on them any more then I have to by describing them or giving particulars not already in general release to the public. The folks investigating this have access to me for this information.

I am going after fraud, not trying to hurt people, regardless of what they have done. Apologies.

"6. Have you ever had any experience in forging petitions for Mr. Nader in previous campaigns?"

Nader got on the ballot in Oregon last time by holding a one day event where a thousand people or more sign petitions at the event venue.

Over ten thousand showed up to the Rose Garden and he had no problem getting the requisite signatures.

He tried this twice this election cycle, and failed both times to get the critical mass needed of signers to put him on the ballot.

This initiative effort is a last ditch effort.

As for my personal experience with Nader initiative petitions, I have none. I have not election grass roots work of that sort for many election cycles.

"7. Wouldn't your time be better spent promoting all the Kerry wonders than trying to prevent folks from voting?"

As I previously stated, if Nader's contractor doing the gathering submits the requisite number of LEGITIMATE signatures, let him be on the ballot to either be voted for or ignored by those voting at the polls or by mail.

The issue is initiative fraud which has been a huge issue since Bill Sizemore's people were caught transcribing names from one petition of several they had with them to sign to get paid per signature to others the voter had demurred from signing due to personal choice.

The presidential election is the sole voting venue where gathering signatures is paid by the signature.

Even if Nader gets on the ballot, we are generating useful tools to take to Salem to use to get the legislature to modify the law to make ALL signature gathering paid by piecework illegal.

ferret posted on 2004-08-17 14:58:32 ET Reply Trace

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=62365&Disp=62#C62

"Among politicians and businessmen, *Pragmatism* is the current term for "To hell with our children." -- Ed Abbey

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-11-02   2:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#490. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Murron, Liberator, Mad Dog, jwpegler, hondo68, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear (#489)

Rat-boy: ...The union also presented the sworn statement of a janitor who said he heard three Nader petitioners, who are paid by the signature, sitting in an isolated stairwell....

Harrowup: What were you doing in the stairwell?"

Rat-boy: The third floor stairs is shut off from the first and second floor atrium concourse by a gate and wire fence. I quietly went over and sat as close to them above them on the stairs... They were visible and audible to me - I was actually visible to them had they been suspicious enough of me to notice I was there and to care.

You're a JANITOR?????????

Bwa-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder you're so bitter, and pushing your military (dis) service as evidence of your patriotism, and your pretensions of intellectual competence!!!!!

DAMN, that is TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-11-02   12:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#491. To: All, capitalist eric (#490)

Bookmarked for future amusement.

No wonder rat-boy is constantly bragging about what he did.... After all, how could he tell the truth...? "Oh, I unclogged the toilet in the womens restroom... someone dropped a monster doogie."

PERFECT!

DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball...
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?

"Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation--

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-11-02   13:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#492. To: Capitalist Eric (#491)

No wonder rat-boy is constantly bragging about what he did.... After all, how could he tell the truth...? "Oh, I unclogged the toilet in the womens restroom... someone dropped a monster doogie."

"You post articles- intellectual excrement, really- that support your inane, insipid mentality, on a regular basis. Capitalist Eric

lucysmom  posted on  2011-11-02   13:18:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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