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Title: Who gives shit if Godwinson post here again?
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Published: Oct 26, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-10-26 11:24:19 by A K A Stone
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Who would like to see him post here again?

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#46. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Stone,

You are the only forum owner I'm aware of that tolerates being told to 'fuck off' 'suck my dick' 'you are an asshole' 'the site runs better when you aren't here' etc etc etc.

Every thread here degenerates to that eventually, at least the ones you happen to post on. As such, yep, the site is sliding downhill faster with each passing week. Combined with your allowing some to use it for personal attack threads, or racial bullshit...it comes down to a simple question: Why bother with LF? You don't give a shit how it looks. You don't give a shit how these kooks talk trash to YOU for God's sake. Which is why even that idiot Goldi gets more respect than you do in her kooky forum. Or JR at Free Republic, or mystery over at GBR.

You aren't promoting 'freedom of speech' by allowing this crap, Stone. You simply promote your site isn't to be taken seriously, because nobody here takes YOU seriously. I drop by every day, but honestly, there hasn't been anything here worth commenting on for the past couple of weeks.

Its your site, Stone. but the reason it hasn't grown is because you haven't 'grown' as a site owner/operator. This isn't about politics, or anything else, as much as it is kooks talking shit behind absurd screen names in ways they'd NEVER do in the real world. Basically, its a fantasyland for losers that have been banned from legitimate sites for the obvious reasons.

As for 'godwincing' posters come, posters go. The rep of the site is what you should be worrying about. Thats the only 'constant' you have any influence over. So far, this site is just as amaturishly run as it was when I signed up.

And thats the problem...unless you enjoy being humiliated, taunted, and insulted by people on the internet. Maybe you do. I honestly don't get it, but its your site. Like the song says, you can't always have what you want, but you get what you need, eh?

Seeya round.

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-26   13:38:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Badeye (#46)

Thanks for reminding me what a fucking hypocrite you are.

war  posted on  2011-10-26   14:22:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#70)

He criticized Neil to no end and even lied to him on elPee - about those two monikers - almost sounds like Monocle.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-26   14:25:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

Bullshit Freddie. Neil was a self appointed 'site manager' who was upset I didn't 1) Agree with him on the election...2) Didn't kiss his ass because I knew he was a flat out fraud. Much later, when he laid down and whimpered in court after all his bravado on the internet, he confirmed my view of him.

Which is why he's still my personal internet bitch to this very day (laughing).

I never lied to him, like you, he wasn't worth a lie. Nice spin though.

Now, why are YOU here, hypocritical freddie?

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-26   14:32:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Badeye (#81)

Now, why are YOU here, hypocritical freddie?

Good question.

The same question could be asked of the other House Commies, but I think we know the answer to that query:

To agitate, spam, shill, and otherwise promote Commie propaganda. To their (dis)credit, it's the same reasons Police-Statist fascists frequent and infect conservative forums - to promote their brand of Big Goob control.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   14:39:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Liberator (#92)

"To agitate, spam, shill, and otherwise promote Commie propaganda. To their (dis)credit, it's the same reasons Police-Statist fascists frequent and infect conservative forums - to promote their brand of Big Goob control."

I do believe the speakers on your STEREOtype are out of whack, lippie.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   15:32:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Ferret Mike (#130)

("To agitate, spam, shill, and otherwise promote Commie propaganda. To their (dis)credit, it's the same reasons Police-Statist fascists frequent and infect conservative forums - to promote their brand of Big Goob control.")

I do believe the speakers on your STEREOtype are out of whack, lippie.

Go ahead, Mike. re-calibrate MY characterization of your ilk through YOUR eyes....er through my speakers.

Btw, I find my new pet name clever. I'll have to reciprocate the favor.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   15:37:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Liberator (#132)

"Go ahead, Mike. re-calibrate MY characterization of your ilk through YOUR eyes....er through my speakers."

And you will have to forgive me, but as someone who's name can be written as M. Joseph McCarthy, it is terribly comical for me to hear you talking like you are aspiring to become the chairman of a new Senate Un-American Activities committee. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   16:01:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Ferret Mike (#139)

And you will have to forgive me, but as someone who's name can be written as M. Joseph McCarthy, it is terribly comical for me to hear you talking like you are aspiring to become the chairman of a new Senate Un-American Activities committee. ;-D

You DO know that McCarthy was right about every single communist agent he named,right?

sneakypete  posted on  2011-10-26   20:15:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: sneakypete (#162)

You DO know that McCarthy was right about every single communist agent he named,right?

Yes he was.

Badeye  posted on  2011-10-27   7:29:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Badeye, sneakypete (#174) (Edited)

You DO know that McCarthy was right about every single communist agent he named,right?

Yes he was.

Oh Bullshit...he accused the Secretary of the Army, Robert Stevens, of being a Communist which is how McCarthy lost Eisenhower.

That said, McCarthy actually "named" very few people and those he did name were a) from a list that had been compiled by HUAC in 1946/47 and b) were people who were mostly exonerated and remain so to this day.

McCarthy focused mainly not on people but on the activities of groups and articles in publications.

You've said this before, sneak, and have gotten the smack down.

war  posted on  2011-10-27   8:00:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: war (#175)

Oh Bullshit...he accused the Secretary of the Army, Robert Stevens, of being a Communist...

Maybe he was? Or maybe,McCarthy never made the charge that he was a communist,and this is a lie the media spread to help defame McCarthy? Maybe what McCarthy claimed is that Stephens associated with or was friends with people who were security risks because of their communist connections or leanings,and this became "Joe called him a communist!"

which is how McCarthy lost Eisenhower.

Eisenhower was nothing more than a overpaid clerk. As far as I know the only really good thing he did personally his whole life was remind everybody to "beware of the military-industrial complex" on his way out the WH door. That doesn't make up for him leading the raid on the Bonus Marchers,though. Which is the closest this General ever got to combat.

That said, McCarthy actually "named" very few people

Because the list was Top Secret and he couldn't name them without exposing intelligence gathering procedures and spoiling surveillance operations.

...those he did name were a) from a list that had been compiled by HUAC in 1946/47

They may have been on that list,but that wasn't the only list they were on.

..and b) were people who were mostly exonerated and remain so to this day.

"Mosty exonerated"? Were some of them a little bit pregnant? What you are trying to say without saying it is that they were never put on trial for their treasonous acts and the left continued to bray about them being innocent.

You've said this before, sneak, and have gotten the smack down.

Don't confuse your delusions with reality.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-10-27   13:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: sneakypete (#197)

Eisenhower was nothing more than a overpaid clerk. As far as I know the only really good thing he did personally his whole life was remind everybody to "beware of the military-industrial complex" on his way out the WH door. That doesn't make up for him leading the raid on the Bonus Marchers,though. Which is the closest this General ever got to combat.

Background:
Born the third of seven sons in Denison, Texas to David Jacob Eisenhower and Ida Elizabeth Stover. His father was an Engineer while his mother was a devoted follower and supporter of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses). The family home served as the local meeting hall for the group from 1896 to 1915.
The constant and regular exposure of Eisenhower to End of the World imagery mixed with Bible prophecy by the Jehovah's Witnesses had a profound impact on him throughout his life. While he was never a gifted student, nor known for his intellect, his fascination in occult and religious power placed him more than once midst powerful men, who assisted his career.
Dwight graduated from High School around 1909 at the age of 19. He then took a night shift labouring job at the Belle Springs Creamery. In 1911, Eisenhower attempted to apply for the Naval Academy but failed the basic entrance exam. In later years, his record was changed to claim he passed, but was somehow ineligible on account of his age, even though he qualified under the age limit at the time.
Later that year (1911), powerful US Senator for Kansas Joseph L. Bristow used his influence to get Eisenhower into West Point Military Academy. The motivation for this act and how he came to know Eisenhower has never been properly explained. At Westpoint Eisenhower again he showed mediocre academic skills, but managed to scrape through and graduate.
Unlike most of his fellow graduates, Eisenhower never saw action in World War I. Instead, he spent the first few years with the National Guard and then assigned to various new tank corps where he met General Fox Conner. He had the dubious honor of having his temporary rank of Major being revoked and being demoted back to Captain by 1922.
When General Conner was appointed Camp Gaillard, Panama and the Panama Canal Zone, he made Eisenhower his executive officer - a role he held from 1922 until 1924. It was under the guidance of General Conner that Eisenhower found a grounding in essential military strategy and politics. After finishing his term with Conner, Eisenhower was promoted again to Major and attended the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth.
His career then stagnated for five years until in 1929 he was appointed Executive Assistant to General George Moseley, then Secretary of War. In 1933, he was then appointed chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur and accompanied him to the Philippines. It was through MacArthur that Eisenhower first came to the attention of the all-powerful American Jesuit Fr. Edmund A. Walsh. MacArthur was educated by the Jesuits and Walsh was his influential patron.
Eisenhower quickly became an even more deeply devoted fan of Fr. Walsh and his geopolitical mind than his superior General MacArthur.
At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Eisenhower returned from the Philippines at 49 but a Lt. Colonel. By June 1941, six months before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, Col. Eisenhower was appointed to the War Department General Staff in Washington D.C. and to a role holding the temporary rank of Brigadier General.
Whatever his role in the events leading up to Pearl Harbor, he soon held favor with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, another staunch supporter of Fr. Edmund A. Walsh S.J.
In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history.
The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit.
Upon his arrival in England in 1943, a controversial claim has been made that Eisenhower received a communique from senior members of the SS offering clear and specific terms of unconditional surrender of all German forces, including the assassination of Hitler, if the Americans would help halt the Soviet advance into Central Europe.
Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.
In 1944, Eisenhower was confirmed as a Five Star General and Chief of the Army. In spite of the massive logistical superiority of the Allied forces, the Eisenhower D-Day plan very nearly failed. Again, during the Battle of the Bulge Eisenhower inexplicably ordered the halt of the encirclement of German forces enabling up to 150,000 to escape and prolonging the war a further twelve months.
No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.
One man that did know the truth was Gen. George Smith Patton. On December 9th 1945, the day before he was due to fly back to Washington to meet with President Truman with proof that Eisenhower was a traitor who had costs the lives of thousands of American soldiers and millions of civilians, he was seriously injured in a “road accident” near Mannheim, Germany on 9 Dec 1945 (dying in hospital 21 December 1945). Miraculously the other occupants of the car in which Patton was critically injured escaped unharmed.
To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable. These false rumours still persist today.

However, there can be no doubt about the direct orders of Eisenhower in Operation Keelhaul- the repatriation of over two million former Russian prisoners of war to Joseph Stalin. While the actions of Eisenhower have always been maintained as a fact of life following the Yalta Agreement between Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt, the manner and clear fate of these poor souls was nothing short of Genocide on the same level as Adolf Hitler and the SS. [Article excerpt end]

Parrot: The above article is from a website which peels the layers on leaders who have been prominent figures in Globalism from WW-1 onwards.
While the Vatican/Jesuits do not Run the NWO,...they are...and certain Jesuits like Edmund Walsh,...have been guides..steering from behind the curtain.

Father Walsh with General Douglas MacArthur in Tokyo, 1948
Since WW-2 and the emergence of the IMF/World Bank,and the various thinktank groups/councils...like the CFR,The 300 Committee,Bilderbergs,
Vatican/Jesuit influence has been passed off to these.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2011-10-27   22:55:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: Parrot with speed dial (#292)

In December 1943, President Roosevelt announced Eisenhower, still then only officially holding the rank of Colonel would be the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, being promoted immediately to being a four star Major General - one of the most dramatic rise in promotions in American history. The announcement sent shockwaves through the US and even the Allied forces as Eisenhower was promoted over the heads of over fifty seasoned military leaders, including his former friend and mentor Douglas MacArthur - all of whom had far greater skill and merit.

As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.

Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?

And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.

Whether true or false, there is no question that Eisenhower quickly shelved the Churchill plan of a 1943 invasion while the Nazi forces were in a state of disarray and allowed the Germans a full six months to re-arm and re- equip their French forces ahead of any invasion.

Anybody that thinks it was Eisenhower made that decision is either ignorant of how the army works,or is delusional. That decision was made in the WH and at the Pentagram in the office of the JCS.

To counter the claims and rumour mills, Eisenhower authorised the leak of stories to damage the character of Patton including blaming Patton for the escape of the 150,000 soldiers of the German army and that Patton was mentally unstable.

Patton WAS mentally unstable. I have talked with soldiers that served under him in WW-2,and they were all in agreement that he was both insane and a asshole. One of these men was childhood friends of my parents that was drafted in WW-2,and ended up winning a DSC and battlefield promotion in North Africa,ending up as a 1st Lt and Armor platoon leader.

BTW,being mentally unstable doesn't mean he was wrong when it came to how to win the war and the danger of the Soviets,though.

No rational, military or political explanation for this order has ever been given. The effect of Eisenhower's deliberate decisions to prolong the war cost an additional 100,000 allied personnel and effectively handed Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union.

Once again,that decision was above his paygrade. It was made in the WH by King Franklin,who was looking out for his Soviet buddies. That's the way it works in America. The President makes the decisions,and the military salutes and says "Yes Sir!"

sneakypete  posted on  2011-10-28   8:50:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: sneakypete, Parrot with speed dial (#297)

As much as it pains me to say this,this was a brilliant move by King Franklin. Eisenhower was the perfect man for that slot. While he was never much of anything as a soldier,he was a superb politician,and a politician is what that job needed,not a strategic and tactical military mind. What King Franklin (and the world) needed in that position was a man that could sooth the egos of some pretty massive prima donnas like Patton,Montgomery,and DeGaulle,and get them to work together. I suspect herding cats would have been a task easier to accomplish.

Can you imagine the nightmare that Patton or Dougout Doug would have created if they had been appointed to that position?

And that WAS Eisenhower's job in the ETO. King Franklin had the JCS to plan strategy. What he needed in England was a "Yes Man" that would follow orders and play nice with others. He got that in Ike.

I agree - FDR needed a babysitter. Ike's role was performed perfectly.

Oddly enough, by the time Ike became President, the role of President seemed more like a figure head and puppet of the Elite puppetmeisters.

As you've pointed out, Ike gave his warning about the "military-industrial complex" - he was signaling it wasn't he as President who was pulling the strings.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-28   11:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: Liberator (#308)

Oddly enough, by the time Ike became President, the role of President seemed more like a figure head and puppet of the Elite puppetmeisters.

Since all he really did was play golf and smile a lot,it worked out really well.

As you've pointed out, Ike gave his warning about the "military-industrial complex" - he was signaling it wasn't he as President who was pulling the strings.

I would say it was more of a case of a president who was tired of having HIS strings pulled by these very same creatures,and a man familiar enough with military procurement and operations that he truly understood the danger to our Republic it represented.

After all,you don't have to be the first in your class to realize you need to get off the tracks when there is a train bearing down on you.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-10-28   17:29:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: sneakypete (#329)

Since all he really did was play golf and smile a lot,it worked out really well.

Lol. And so that's when the Presidential golfing and scripted decisions all began?

I would say it was more of a case of a president who was tired of having HIS strings pulled by these very same creatures,and a man familiar enough with military procurement and operations that he truly understood the danger to our Republic it represented.

Fair enough assessment. After having his chain yanked (and yanking others) I guess his recognition of the charade was better late than never. Not that it was in time to help reverse the future damage.

You don't have to be the first in your class to realize you need to get off the tracks when there is a train bearing down on you.

Which is why I believe so few Americans of honor and integrity are willing to run for office. Selling their soul and succumbing to the institutional globalist cabal is too high a personal price.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-29   13:55:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: Liberator (#338)

Fair enough assessment. After having his chain yanked (and yanking others) I guess his recognition of the charade was better late than never. Not that it was in time to help reverse the future damage.

No matter what anybody says about Ike,nobody can ever say he was a egotist that put himself ahead of others or his country. IMHO,it was this lack of ego that got him promoted from LTC to 4 Star General.

BTW,I am NOT saying he was lacking in ego to the point he was self-effacing,but compared to all the other Generals he was practically a Eagle Scout. "Modesty" in not a term you EVER hear attached to Generals. Ever. They ain't type A personalities,they are Type AAA personalities. McArthur was just more obvious than most.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-10-29   19:34:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: sneakypete (#349)

No matter what anybody says about Ike,nobody can ever say he was a egotist that put himself ahead of others or his country. IMHO,it was this lack of ego that got him promoted from LTC to 4 Star General.

Good call from what I've seen, heard and read.

I guess that's like saying he's the ultimate politician. For a two-term President, Ike never seemed to be hated by anyone or provoked strong emotions either way. Obviously, no one forgot his standing as the winning WWII General of the European Theater of Operation.

BTW,I am NOT saying he was lacking in ego to the point he was self-effacing,but compared to all the other Generals he was practically a Eagle Scout. "Modesty" in not a term you EVER hear attached to Generals. Ever. They ain't type A personalities,they are Type AAA personalities. McArthur was just more obvious than most.

I agree - a guy who was both a thousand-star general and President, he was extremely modest. A unicorn by any standard.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-29   20:27:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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