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Title: A Pattern Of Disappointment Emerges In The Republican Presidential Primary
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THE HILL
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig ... ent-emerges-in-the-gop-primary
Published: Sep 27, 2011
Author: Josh Lederman
Post Date: 2011-09-27 11:39:36 by Brian S
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It’s been the recurring theme in the race for the GOP presidential nomination: A candidate enters with a splash, then quickly fizzles, leaving Republicans clamoring for a new white knight to hurtle them into the White House. It happened with former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty. It happened with Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn.). Now it’s happening with Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who is fending off freefall after a meteoric rise to frontrunner status. A new round of calls for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to enter the race just months before Iowa’s first-in-the-nation caucuses is feeding the narrative that Republicans are underwhelmed by their choices, although conservatives insist that the public complaints won’t hurt the eventual nominee’s chances to defeat President Obama. While Obama is raising money in California and campaigning against GOP obstructionism in Congress, many Republicans are openly musing about if only Christie, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin or Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels would get in the race. Republicans in Florida bucked their party’s two front-runners on Saturday, with businessman Herman Cain, who polls nationally in the single digits, winning more votes than Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney combined. “Everyone’s willing to settle for Mitt Romney, but nobody wants to settle for Mitt Romney,” said Erick Erickson, the publisher of the conservative blog RedState.org. Erickson is among those whose early enthusiasm for Perry was dampened by the Texas governor’s weak performance in two recent debates. “I suspect he has about three to four more weeks and another debate performance, and if he doesn’t get that right, we’ll see some real angst among conservatives,” Erickson said. Republican strategist Matt Mackowiak, who is not working for Perry but is supporting his campaign, acknowledged that the storyline about Perry’s recent stumbles had become tough to break, and that the perception that Republicans still had their eyes trained on the horizon would bode poorly for the GOP in the general election. “Sure, but the converse to that is if one person was running away with it, that person would be receiving all the fire from the Democrats anyway,” he said. “They’re always going to find something to go after.” With Palin’s unfavorable rating around two-thirds, most of the almost rabid appeals for new entrants has been focused on Christie, who has wowed Republicans during his first two years in office by effectively and aggressively taking on teachers unions and special interests. “Just wait until the country discovers that Texas Gov. Rick Perry is an empty pair of alligator boots with a grade-school understanding of economics who wants to appoint the Holy Spirit as head of Homeland Security. The Batphone on Christie’s desk will start blinking again,” editorial writer Kevin Manahan of the Newark, N.J.-based Star-Ledger predicted in August, the week after Perry declared. Christie has said he will not run in 2012 more times than anyone can count, but the calls keep coming. Numerous reports in recent days suggested that GOP donors had at long last persuaded Christie to reconsider, although aides publicly and privately maintain that nothing has changed. In late May, a group of GOP donors from Iowa traveled to New Jersey for an audience with Christie, where they told Christie that his was a once-in-the-century opportunity to save the country from financial ruin. “It’s not a matter of disliking the others in the field, but in putting forward your best person you could ever think of,” Gary Kirke, the Des Moines, Iowa, businessman who organized the trip, told The Hill on Monday. In fact, either Perry or Romney, who are considered the front-runners, could be a strong challenger to Obama. Romney has led the president in some polls, and Perry has been within the margin of error in other matchups. Even if Republicans aren’t sneering at their current batch of candidates, the fact that they don’t consider any of them to be ideal sends an ominous signal about what kind of enthusiasm there will be for the GOP nominee come November 2012. And Democrats will be able to make the case to voters that Republicans aren’t even fully behind their own candidate. But that proposition might be business as usual, said Mark McKinnon, a GOP strategist and former adviser to President George W. Bush and to Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign. “The fields are always flawed. There is never a perfect candidate,” he said. “As their nomination becomes inevitable … suddenly they become much less flawed and much more acceptable.”
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Because they are looking for a Savior.
What they want is someone who will play dress up like them.
A white box with a red "X" in it?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
That's strange. I can see it. Gotta stop using hot links, I guess. Try this.
Herman Cain's a honky, he's in the Klan?
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America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Just what we need...another one with very little experience...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
OK, one last time.
Yeah ri-i-i-i-i-ight, no experience. No way someone whose first job out of college was a genuine rocket scientist can beat the expertise of a community organizer. /sarc Year Elected: 2002 Board Committee(s): Professional Affiliations Include: Education: Achievements Include:
And for THAT reason, I will never vote for the man. DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 What we DON'T need is the type of "experience" your treasonous, hypocritical, racist, parasitic Communituh Organizer/Destroyer brings to American governance. Your hero 0binky = Mugabe + Amin + Marx + Syphilitic Insanity. At what point do you admit this?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Nice job, Quanzy...Cain's accomplishments and creds dwarf Obinky's undocumented "credentials." And I'll bet ALL of Cain's tangible accomplishments can be researched, qualified, quantified, and CON-FIRMED. Seriously: War, it's your turn (or that of any of your pro-0binky cohorts) to list and validate 0binky's "accomplishments" (not including rabble-rousing, communituh organizing, and research paper/bodies of work/productivity.) Tick....tick....tick....
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
And I'll bet ALL of Cain's tangible accomplishments can be researched, qualified, quantified, and CON-FIRMED. Seriously: War, it's your turn (or that of any of your pro-0binky cohorts) to list and validate 0binky's "accomplishments" (not including rabble-rousing, communituh organizing, and research paper/bodies of work/productivity. Tick....tick....tick.... Is English your native language or do you have other reasons for needing to talk in code.
And for THAT reason, I will never vote for the man. I get it. But even considering that demerit, Cain's qualifications, capitalist understanding, and record of actual accomplishment still gives us hope that 0binky's disgusting socialist/Muslim/Kenyan wet dream will be crushed.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Is "Gilbey's" your native language? Wait.... (hiccup)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
(hiccup) Yet you are the one using words that appear in no dictionary.
CHALLENGE: List and validate 0binky's "accomplishments" - not including rabble-rousing, communituh organizing. Oh, and please do reveal his research paper/bodies of work/productivity. Go ahead and surprise the forum.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
List and validate 0binky's "accomplishments" - not including rabble-rousing, communituh organizing. Oh, and please do reveal his research paper/bodies of work/productivity. Go ahead and surprise the forum. Why?
Golf? Hoops? I don't think I'll include Bowling, tho . . . __________________________________________________________________________________________ Doesn't "hiccup" appear in a dictionary? Btw, pleeeeeeeze list 0binky's accomplishments as an absentee Illinois Senator OR as the first President of the newly-formed Disunited States of Pseudo-African Socialist States. Thank you. "It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Thanks for the admission that listing 0bama's "accomplishments" is an impossibly embarrassing task.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Agreed.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 As dummy-DwarF would contend, oBUMa does have one "accomplishment:" He happened to be in the White House when the SEALs got bin Ladin. Ooo-rah! And then oBUMa ran around for weeks claiming credit for something he didn't actually do. So the entire list could be a single item (that's positive). The negatives, though....? Well, how much time do we have????
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 I don't think I'll include Bowling, tho . . . HA! He's reaaaaly good-and-sh*tty at playing sports BUT excellent at goofing off like a stoned, unemployed college drop-out... And who doesn't suck on the bulbous end of an ice cream cone better than 0bama?? His jaws have had more practice at being open and unhinged than an anaconda.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Believe me - I'm no fan of the federal reserve (ooops - am I now monitored by 0bama's federal reserve AND 0bama's AttackWatch??)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
He happened to be in the White House when the SEALs got bin Ladin. Ooo-rah! And then oBUMa ran around for weeks claiming credit for something he didn't actually do. So the entire list could be a single item (that's positive). Yep. It was an accidental "accomplishment" that 0bama sulked about being forced to do. (little boy forced by adults to take "credit") Why is it war was/is still do pumped about 0bama's supposed single "accomplishment"? Because it supposedly demonstrates a "toughness" that most claim he lacks in the "war on terror"? Geez....war, why are you continuing to parade this man-crush photo around this forum as though it were a photo of your baby? The [0bama] negatives, though....? Well, how much time do we have???? He hasn't a single positive during his rancid, treasonous Presidency. Even 0bama's supposed assassination wound up a HUGE negative after all the special forces personnel involved in the op were coincidentally....um....ELIMINATED. I'm sure the 0bama Groupies failed to add 2 + 2 in that case as well. Nothing to see....move along.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Agreed with all of your points. One small problem, though: the pic you posted, as detailed HERE, was completely staged. NOTHING is real about this wannabe-POTUS. He's a complete phony.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 Yup. And the media is his willing (and necessary) accomplice. 0bama's entire political career - and especially his so-called "Presidency" - has been staged and is as fake as that metaphoric Greek-temple Hollywood set he used back when, along with his fake 0bamna-Presidential Seal. What else is phony about this POS? His fake, canned dialogue, fake solutions, fake compassion, fake patriotism, fake "Christianity," and fake heterosexuality. No, we don't have enough time or His blatant hatred of whitey, the USA, and capitalism is quite real. I don't how ANY body with .50% of a functional brain can't see this.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Did you really want your first post to me in some time to be that stupid?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Aha...HIlarious...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Did you keep a straight face as you cut and pasted this: • Board Member, Reader’s Digest Association, Inc. I can see him now sitting across from Putin..."Hey did you know that I was instrumental in getting rid of Longfellow's poetry for Snoop Dog's raps in our greeting cards? Well...FEAR ME...": Honorary Degree Recipient,Morehouse College You know why he received that, don't you?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
If he wanted his post to be stupid, he would have stolen the gif in your sig.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 It actually wasn't my first post to you.... Now...as we're swirling down into a giant drain can you point to A-N-Y productive/constructive/positive legislation 0bama has authored in his 2 1/2 years?
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
You know why he received that, don't you? Because Cain helped bring about world peace? (never mind - wrong guy, wrong award)
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
Chuckles...it's a jpeg. Moron.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Presidents don't "author legislation". Get back to me when you're smarter. Helpful Hint: Talking to Erica isn't going to help...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Announcer: He swings....... he MISSES!!! LMAO...!!!!!!! There's a reason why we call you DUMMY DwarF... LMFAO!!!!!!! Idiot. Hey, dummy........ think "Oslo..." LMAO.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24347&Disp=35#C35 No but Senators DO. And in theory, certain Illinois senators could have, but didn't. Presidents often strongly suggest certain legislation, don't they? Get back to me when you're smarter. Ok. Just tell me where to buy my magic lycra-spandex thinking-cap. For further sh*ts and giggles let me know which productive/constructive/positive legislation 0bama has suggested in his 2 1/2 years.
"It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
LMAO. A well-deserved award to the America's very own Gandhi (cough, hack.) War, I think this is the photo you should be using as your LF shrine: "It's not surprising, then, they [White Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." ~ Comrade-in-Chief Barry Hussein 0bama
You have some Senators and House members who are legislative, others who are procedural and others, still, who focus on other Senate matters such as treaties. Obama fell into the latter and, along with Dick Lugar, undertook the Obama/Lugar initiative. If you paid better attention to how out government works you'd understand all of this. Frankly, had you been this passionate about what you perceive as "failure" back in 2002/03, we wouldn't have the mess in Iraq that we have. But I guess it was more important to you to get your panties in a wad over people getting health care or a payroll tax cut or a housing credit than getting into a froth over their children being sent away to a meat grinder half a world away.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest“The fields are always flawed. There is never a perfect candidate,” he said. “As their nomination becomes inevitable … suddenly they become much less flawed and much more acceptable.”
#2. To: Brian S (#0)
#3. To: Skip Intro (#2)
What they want is someone who will play dress up like them.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#4. To: war (#3)
A white box with a red "X" in it?
#5. To: war (#3)
(Edited)
#6. To: Skip Intro (#4)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#5)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#8. To: war (#6)
#9. To: war (#7)
HERMAN CAIN ’68
Development Governance/Trusteeship
• President and CEO, T.H.E. New Voice, Inc.
• Former Chairman, Godfather’s Pizza, Inc.
• Past Board Chair and Member, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
• Former Chairman and President, Tax Leadership Council
• Board Chair, National Restaurant Association, 1994-1995
• CEO and President, National Restaurant Association, 1996-1999
• Board Member, AGCO, Inc.
• Board Member, Aquila, Inc.
• Board Member, Georgia Chamber of Commerce
• Board Member, Reader’s Digest Association, Inc.
• Board Member, Hallmark Cards Inc.
• Board Member,Whirlpool, Inc.• Bachelor of Science,Morehouse College, 1967
• Master of Science, Purdue University, 1971• Honorary Degree Recipient,Morehouse College
• Honorary Degree Recipient ,New York City Technical College
• Suffolk University, Honorary Degree Recipient
• Honorary Degree Recipient, Johnson & Wales University
• Honorary Degree Recipient, Creighton University
• Honorary Degree Recipient, Purdue University
• Honorary Degree Recipient, Tougaloo College
• Honorary Degree Recipient, University of Nebraska
• Horatio Alger Award, 1996
• International Foodservice Manufacturers Association’s Operator of the Year/Gold Plate Award, 1991
• Author of four books: Leadership is Common Sense (1997), Speak as a Leader (1999), CEO of SELF (October, 2001), and They Think You’re Stupid (May, 2005)
#10. To: Happy Quanzaa (#9)
• Past Board Chair and Member, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
NEVER.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff? 
#11. To: war (#7)
Just what we need...another one with very little experience...
#12. To: Happy Quanzaa, war (#9)
(Edited)
Yeah ri-i-i-i-i-ight, no experience. No way someone whose first job out of college was a genuine rocket scientist can beat the expertise of a community organizer. /sarc
#13. To: Liberator (#12)
Nice job, Quanzy...Cain's accomplishments and creds dwarf Obinky's undocumented "credentials."
#14. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)
• Past Board Chair and Member, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
#15. To: mininggold (#13)
Is English your native language or do you have other reasons for needing to talk in code.
#16. To: Liberator (#15)
Is "Gilbey's" your native language? Wait....
#17. To: mininggold (#13)
#18. To: Liberator (#17)
CHALLENGE:
#19. To: Liberator, war (#12)
Seriously: War, it's your turn (or that of any of your pro-0binky cohorts) to list and validate 0binky's "accomplishments" (not including rabble-rousing, communituh organizing, and research paper/bodies of work/productivity.
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#20. To: mininggold (#16)
Yet you are the one using words that appear in no dictionary.
#21. To: mininggold (#18)
#22. To: Liberator (#14)
But even considering that demerit, Cain's qualifications, capitalist understanding, and record of actual accomplishment still gives us hope that 0binky's disgusting socialist/Muslim/Kenyan wet dream will be crushed.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#23. To: Liberator (#21)
Thanks for the admission that listing 0bama's "accomplishments" is an impossibly embarrassing task.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#24. To: Get Outta Dodge!, war (#19)
Golf? Hoops?
#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
#26. To: Capitalist Eric, war (#23)
As dummy-DwarF would contend, oBUMa does have one "accomplishment:"
#27. To: Liberator (#26)
While the photo that ran on many newspapers and websites the next morning appeared as if it were taken during Obama's address to the nation the night before, it was actually the result of an elaborate post-speech production.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#28. To: Capitalist Eric (#27)
One small problem, though: the pic you posted, as detailed HERE, was completely staged.
While the photo that ran on many newspapers and websites the next morning appeared as if it were taken during Obama's address to the nation the night before, it was actually the result of an elaborate post-speech production.
#29. To: Liberator (#26)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#30. To: Skip Intro (#8)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#31. To: Happy Quanzaa (#9)
• Board Member, Hallmark Cards Inc.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#32. To: war, Liberator (#29)
Did you really want your first post to me in some time to be that stupid?
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#33. To: war (#29)
Did you really want your first post to me in some time to be that stupid?
#34. To: war, Happy Quanzaa (#31)
(Honorary Degree Recipient,Morehouse College)
#35. To: Capitalist Eric (#32)
If he wanted his post to be stupid, he would have stolen the gif in your sig.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#36. To: Liberator (#33)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#37. To: war, Liberator (#36)
Dummy DwarF: (Honorary Degree Recipient,Morehouse College) You know why he received that, don't you?
Liberator: Because Cain helped bring about world peace? (never mind - wrong guy, wrong award)
Dummy DwarF: Presidents don't "author legislation". Get back to me when you're smarter.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#38. To: war (#36)
Presidents don't "author legislation".
#39. To: Capitalist Eric, war (#37)
Hey, dummy........ think "Oslo..."
#40. To: Liberator (#38)
No but Senators DO. And in theory, certain Illinois senators could have, but didn't.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
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